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Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost
« on: May 01, 2017, 09:53:29 pm »
Alex Roarty
May 01, 2017

WASHINGTON

A select group of top Democratic Party strategists have used new data about last year’s presidential election to reach a startling conclusion about why Hillary Clinton lost. Now they just need to persuade the rest of the party they’re right.

Many Democrats have a shorthand explanation for Clinton’s defeat: Her base didn’t turn out, Donald Trump’s did and the difference was too much to overcome.

But new information shows that Clinton had a much bigger problem with voters who had supported President Barack Obama in 2012 but backed Trump four years later.

Those Obama-Trump voters, in fact, effectively accounted for more than two-thirds of the reason Clinton lost, according to Matt Canter, a senior vice president of the Democratic political firm Global Strategy Group. In his group’s analysis, about 70 percent of Clinton’s failure to reach Obama’s vote total in 2012 was because she lost these voters.

In recent months, Canter and other members of Global Strategy Group have delivered a detailed report of their findings to senators, congressmen, fellow operatives and think tank wonks – all part of an ongoing effort to educate party leaders about what the data says really happened in last year’s election.

“We have to make sure we learn the right lesson from 2016, that we don’t just draw the lesson that makes us feel good at night, make us sleep well at night,” Canter said.

His firm’s conclusion is shared broadly by other Democrats who have examined the data, including senior members of Clinton’s campaign and officials at the Democratic data and analytics firm Catalist. (The New York Times, doing its own analysis, reached a similar conclusion.)

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 09:59:25 pm »
A couple of months from now they will come up with yet another scenario as to why Clinton lost. IMHO they lost because they were over confident that she couldn't possibly lose; especially with all the corruption in place to ensure that she won.
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 10:04:31 pm »
A couple of months from now they will come up with yet another scenario as to why Clinton lost. IMHO they lost because they were over confident that she couldn't possibly lose; especially with all the corruption in place to ensure that she won.

Post Mortems are always bad.  The Reps blew 2008 and 2012 completely.
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 10:08:45 pm »
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But new information shows that Clinton had a much bigger problem with voters who had supported President Barack Obama in 2012 but backed Trump four years later.

I can easily verify this. In Iowa we have several Democrat union blue collar river counties - Wapello, Lee, Des Moines, Muscatine, Linn, Scott, and Black Hawk that are slight to hard voting Democrat for President. Then there is Polk, which is Des Moines metro and the People's Republic of Johnson county, home of the U of Iowa. They both vote Dem because they are govt dominated towns.

All those went for Obama, and a number even voted against Bush both times. Wapello co, home to Ottumwa is radical union and hasn't voted for a GOP prez since Nixon or earlier.

This time the only one that voted for Hillary was the hard left People's Republic of Johnson County, aka Bezerkley on the Prairie. Many of the river counties weren't even close - Trump dominated.

Yes, she was a very arrogant, inept candidate in every sense of the word.
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost
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