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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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Understanding Why President Trump Has Not Received Legislative Action From Congress…
Conservative Treehouse, Apr 27, 2017, Sundance

There are many new commentators at CTH, and even more new people taking notice of politics for perhaps the first time in their lives.   There is also some confusion noticed between two distinct groups who appear to be talking above and around each other.  Two groups trying to communicate from two entirely divergent sets of understanding.

Perhaps it is valuable to reset the larger frames of reference and provide clarity.

Many, heck, most people think when they vote for a federal politician -a representative- they are voting for a person who will go to Washington DC and write or enact legislation. This is the old-fashioned “schoolhouse rock” perspective based on decades past.

There is not a single congress person who writes legislation or laws.

In 2017 not a single member of the House of Representatives or Senator writes a law, or puts pen to paper to write out a legislative construct.  This simply doesn’t happen.

Over the past several decades a system of constructing legislation has taken over Washington DC that more resembles a business operation than a legislative body.  Here’s how it works.

Outside groups often called “special interest groups” are entities that represent their interests in legislative constructs.  These groups are often corporations, banks, financial groups or businesses; or smaller groups of people with a similar business connection who come together and form a larger group under an umbrella of interest specific to their like-minded affiliation.

Sometimes the groups are social interest groups; activists like climate groups, environmental interests etc.   The social interest groups are usually non-profit constructs who depend on the expenditures of government to sustain their cause or need.

The for-profit groups (mostly business) have a purpose in Washington DC to shape policy, legislation and laws favorable to their interests.   They have fully staffed offices just like any business would – only their business is getting legislation for their unique interests.

These groups are filled with highly-paid lawyers who represent the interests of the entity and actually write laws and legislation briefs.  In the modern era this is actually the origination of the laws that we eventually see passed by congress.  Within the walls of these buildings within Washington DC is where the ‘sausage’ is actually made.

Again, no elected official is usually part of this law origination process.

Once the corporation or representative organizational entity has written the law they want to see passed they hand it off to the lobbyists.  The lobbyists are people who have deep contacts within the political bodies of the legislative branch, usually former House/Senate staff or former House/Senate politicians themselves.

The lobbyist takes the written brief, the legislative construct, and it’s their job to go to congress and sell it.


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Ah blame game.. Maybe he should sit down with Congress and work with them.
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The whole 'GOP Healthcare' debacle and this budget boondoggle renders the premise of the article as it relates to Trump, excuse making.


Mr. 'Art of the Deal' is proving himself to be the charlatan 'dealmaker' we figured him to be, unless playing the game for the Democrats was always his strategy.
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The whole 'GOP Healthcare' debacle and this budget boondoggle renders the premise of the article as it relates to Trump, excuse making. 

How little you know and yet how much you say @INVAR ...  **nononono*

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Ah blame game.. Maybe he should sit down with Congress and work with them.

Obama on steroids but even Obama understood the need to at least appear diplomatic sometimes. Once he got what he wanted he would turn and attack republicans, agitating and angering conservatives.

Trump doesn't even waste time on the diplomacy part. Its just a steady attack on everyone (other than thugs like Putin and Duarte) because he's in way over his head and acting like the spoiled little rich boy he is.

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How little you know and yet how much you say @INVAR ...  **nononono*

Liberal Leftists tell me the same exact thing, so you are in good company.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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Liberal Leftists tell me the same exact thing, so you are in good company.

You are so wrong @INVAR, et al .... I have worked in the lobbying business targeting the Republican side of the aisle ....  and believe me, we develop the blueprint for legislation.  Our best friends are actually the legislative assistants.

This is  the dirty little secret about our Congress.  A lot of money is made off this, a lot of money is distributed off this.  And many, many happy hours are spent laughing and hoping no one ever figures this out.

And I don't give a rat's arse whether or not you believe it.






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You are so wrong @INVAR, et al .... I have worked in the lobbying business targeting the Republican side of the aisle ....  and believe me, we develop the blueprint for legislation.  Our best friends are actually the legislative assistants.

This is  the dirty little secret about our Congress.  A lot of money is made off this, a lot of money is distributed off this.  And many, many happy hours are spent laughing and hoping no one ever figures this out.

And I don't give a rat's arse whether or not you believe it.

If you didn't give a rats ass, you wouldn't have replied.

And your point about Congress is Irrelevant.

Supposedly - your political savior Trump was going to be able to use his demigod negotiating powers of making deals to MAGA.

So who gives a crap where all the legislation is drafted?  Didn't you people insist that Trump was going to be able to wheel and deal for our benefit with the best and worst of them in the 'Deep State'??

Now, all-of-a-sudden we are told Trump cannot 'make a deal' because the legislation is not made in Congress but by lobbying groups (aka: The Deep State).

Interestingly, lobbying Groups Trump should have lots of previous experience with - considering he used to be one in his own right.

That article was just another blame-shifter to provide cover for the embarrassing fact that Trump is not this negotiating guru you folks declared he was.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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If you didn't give a rats ass, you wouldn't have replied.  I

I set the record straight @INVAR ... now walk away.

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Both Congress and Trump are in the asshat zone at the moment. They both need to get off the dime and get something done, together.
The Republic is lost.

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I set the record straight @INVAR ... now walk away.

You did no such thing.

You put lipstick on a pig and blamed the duck for doing it.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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I set the record straight ... now walk away.
Oh, and then there's your political savior Trump - who just declared that he is 'Happy' with the budget bill he will sign that BANS ANY FUTURE BORDER WALL FROM BEING BUILT.

How does the Trump Militant feel when they hear the president say he is "very happy" with a bill which outlaws border wall construction? Do they still think this is all part of a master plan to improve border security?  Six dimensional chess? If constructing a wall takes time and needs to be funded in advance, at what point shall we begin judging Trump on his words and actions?

My guess is we will be told: AFTER his term has expired and he is out of office.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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....SNIP....

That article was just another blame-shifter to provide cover for the embarrassing fact that Trump is not this negotiating guru you folks declared he was.

   What @INVAR said,
   Which is exactly why I won't even give sundance a click or ever a read, HE is a fanatical Trumpster blaming everyone and everything except the main culprit here, his demigod.
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   What @INVAR said,
   Which is exactly why I won't even give sundance a click or ever a read, HE is a fanatical Trumpster blaming everyone and everything except the main culprit here, his demigod.

The bigger the failure Trump becomes the more desperately his fans try to blame everyone but Trump.

They need to suck it up and accept the fact that they'll carry this guilt for the rest of their lives.