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Offline American Faith Today

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People who write drivel like that about "divine intervention" don't realize that, if God was truly involved in this round, then Trump would be this generation's Saul.

Then again, they wouldn't know what that means to say "Trump is Saul" anyway, so....

Yep

The thing is, the two "kings" we had to choose from were like the kings that reigned over Israel and Judah when it was split- only probably worse because at least a lot of those kings of Judah started out okay or in the case of Manasseh started out horribly but did repent at the end.

It kind of blows my mind that people think that a man such as Trump, who even though we all sin, has lived a life about as far as what God would intend would be His chosen vessel to "save" America from whatever he's supposed to save us from.

But then, that's when they say, well he's Cyrus.  Because I guess they want him to be.

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Bit of both, in my mind. You're mostly electing public servants to govern on behalf of the people, but when something goes wrong they've got to be able to step up as leaders too.
Considering leadership in times of crisis is part of their job, not only should they be able to do so, but it comes with the service they have been elected to provide.
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Silly people. You are conveniently omitting the alternative way the election would have gone, and the consequences of that outcome. Furthermore, to deny that Trump's incredibly unbelievable victory was, as the insurance companies say, 'an act of God', is to deny God altogether.


If God is involved in all things, then why not this? I don't doubt for a second that the Almighty might intervene to thwart the daughter of Satan from ascending the throne. Laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but even many secular atheist Liberals are saying that only God could have got Trump elected.
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If the most strident #nevertrumpers could think logically, and if they are really the conservatives most claim to be, they would be grateful that Trump's supporters got him elected.

They should admit they approve most of what has taken place so far. Because it has been mostly conservative, beyond their expectations.

Their failure to show such attitudes, makes me question their political judgment, sincerity, etc.

I know some of you wrote of supporting Gary Johnston, who just announced he's done with running for President, and will now devote his energy to Marijuana.

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Silly people. You are conveniently omitting the alternative way the election would have gone, and the consequences of that outcome. Furthermore, to deny that Trump's incredibly unbelievable victory was, as the insurance companies say, 'an act of God', is to deny God altogether.


If God is involved in all things, then why not this? I don't doubt for a second that the Almighty might intervene to thwart the daughter of Satan from ascending the throne. Laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but even many secular atheist Liberals are saying that only God could have got Trump elected.

   We are not 'silly' @240B and we aren't guilty of overestimating the true number of Conservatives in the GOP either. 
   This Election could have very easily had a Different outcome, had you folks given Sen. Cruz a chance instead of listening to and being convinced by the crap 'your' Guy was spewing about ALL Republicans, BUT no, yall were pi$$ed off at Washington, Drain that Swamp.

   I know there are many of you that wish we could just move on from the Primary Crap, it's over, and I will, I promise, eventually.
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   We are not 'silly' @240B and we aren't guilty of overestimating the true number of Conservatives in the GOP either. 
   This Election could have very easily had a Different outcome, had you folks given Sen. Cruz a chance instead of listening to and being convinced by the crap 'your' Guy was spewing about ALL Republicans, BUT no, yall were pi$$ed off at Washington, Drain that Swamp.

   I know there are many of you that wish we could just move on from the Primary Crap, it's over, and I will, I promise, eventually.

Then blame Dixie, cause Cruz couldn't even win the Bible belt, save his home state and Oklahoma, no way can we assume he was going to take Michigan and Pennsylvania. This becomes a total disconnect with reality.  Conceivably, he could have taken Wisconsin.


Despite the youtube video of what Trump said about Planned Parenthood, he has defunded the international Planned Parenthood and given states the power to defund Planned Parenthood.

Respectfully, we can thank Senator Cruz for a goose egg for the pro-life cause.

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Trump and Pence and those who supported them have saved babies, that's my first standard. I do think this is just people that want to criticize Trump.  It's easy to see some people getting steamed here, so it happens.

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Silly people. You are conveniently omitting the alternative way the election would have gone, and the consequences of that outcome.

Horsepuckey.

Our rulers and the sickening choices we were presented as candidates are a direct reflection of a culture and society in decay and collapse.


Furthermore, to deny that Trump's incredibly unbelievable victory was, as the insurance companies say, 'an act of God', is to deny God altogether.

Blasphemy and idolatry all rolled into a single absurd statement.

If God is involved in all things, then why not this? I don't doubt for a second that the Almighty might intervene to thwart the daughter of Satan from ascending the throne. Laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but even many secular atheist Liberals are saying that only God could have got Trump elected.

God always gives a people who have gone astray and whom choose their own gods, over to what they demand and allows them exactly what they want.   As He told Samuel, the people did not reject Samuel, they had rejected God in favor of a man.   I am convinced based on the fruits we are continually witness to, that He has given this people over to a wicked and debased mind that wants to be ruled by men they loft into messiahs.
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Silly people. You are conveniently omitting the alternative way the election would have gone, and the consequences of that outcome. Furthermore, to deny that Trump's incredibly unbelievable victory was, as the insurance companies say, 'an act of God', is to deny God altogether.


If God is involved in all things, then why not this? I don't doubt for a second that the Almighty might intervene to thwart the daughter of Satan from ascending the throne. Laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but even many secular atheist Liberals are saying that only God could have got Trump elected.

Wrong on two counts: one, God lets us make mistakes, and two, the only thing that could have gotten Trump elected was Mrs. Clinton. 

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   With all Due Respect @TomSea I think you made my point for me (but I could be wrong), by the time Super Tuesday rolled around Sen. Cruz had been in a constant barrage from Trump for almost 3 months, yes, Ted was suppose to mop that up (Evangelical Vote), but Trump just kept stoking the 'populist' crap, hate Washington and people generally just threw the baby out with the bath water, to use an old cliché.
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If the most strident #nevertrumpers could think logically, and if they are really the conservatives most claim to be, they would be grateful that Trump's supporters got him elected.

They should admit they approve most of what has taken place so far. Because it has been mostly conservative, beyond their expectations.

Their failure to show such attitudes, makes me question their political judgment, sincerity, etc.

I know some of you wrote of supporting Gary Johnston, who just announced he's done with running for President, and will now devote his energy to Marijuana.



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You criticizing others for not thinking logically; that's rich. 

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Someone here accused people who were for Trump as seeing him as a King; this kind of inflammatory and unfounded accusations perhaps should be examined as well.

People supported the GOP nominee as some people always do.

I don't see Trump on a day to day basis in the cartoon section as being portrayed as Superman.


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Someone here accused people who were for Trump as seeing him as a King; this kind of inflammatory and unfounded accusations perhaps should be examined as well.

People supported the GOP nominee as some people always do.

I don't see Trump on a day to day basis in the cartoon section as being portrayed as Superman.

   Valid Points all, @TomSea most everyone in my Family voted for Trump because he was the GOP Nominee, only one member voted for Trump because, he was Trump and she being a Christian and all, I doubt if she ever thought of him as some kind of King or Messiah, everyone knows there is only 1 King - Ted Cruz!
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  how much time do you spend at the kiddie park eyeing little girls, @Wingnut ?
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Cruz Trump appeared together, practically campaigned together. I don't know how many times this is ignored.



They shared the same views for quite a while and just search for bromance, Cruz Trump.  It's really obnoxious to even discuss this to me.

And yes, the Cruz camp ran a questionable campaign, who says someone said something about the Bible that they didn't?

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Silly people. You are conveniently omitting the alternative way the election would have gone, and the consequences of that outcome. Furthermore, to deny that Trump's incredibly unbelievable victory was, as the insurance companies say, 'an act of God', is to deny God altogether.


If God is involved in all things, then why not this? I don't doubt for a second that the Almighty might intervene to thwart the daughter of Satan from ascending the throne. Laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but even many secular atheist Liberals are saying that only God could have got Trump elected.

@240B

Hillary was always going to lose. We could have nominated a clown - and we did - and still beaten her.

Want proof? The head-to-head match-ups for, say, Cruz v. Hillary were better than Trump v. Hillary in the primary season.

But, then again, I'm imagining that proof doesn't matter to you. In your mind, it was Trump or Hillary, which - of course - is The Big Lie.
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Cruz Trump appeared together, practically campaigned together. I don't know how many times this is ignored.



They shared the same views for quite a while and just search for bromance, Cruz Trump.  It's really obnoxious to even discuss this to me.

And yes, the Cruz camp ran a questionable campaign, who says someone said something about the Bible that they didn't?

   IMHO, @TomSea President Trump got more aligned with Sen. Cruz's stated positions, Manafort is no idiot, and for every July picture you have of the 'bromance' I can show you a September picture when the Senator was rightfully calling him 'a sniveling Coward' for the attacks on his Family.
   I'm certainly not trying to upset or troll you @TomSea We just see things from a different prespective and I respect yours-anyone that likes the Music you do can't be all bad.

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Silly people. You are conveniently omitting the alternative way the election would have gone, and the consequences of that outcome. Furthermore, to deny that Trump's incredibly unbelievable victory was, as the insurance companies say, 'an act of God', is to deny God altogether.


If God is involved in all things, then why not this? I don't doubt for a second that the Almighty might intervene to thwart the daughter of Satan from ascending the throne. Laugh, mock, ridicule all you want, but even many secular atheist Liberals are saying that only God could have got Trump elected.

Um, we may be "silly people"  but even as such I think I can reason that you're not God and have no omniscience or future seeing abilities.

As such no one knows the outcome of Hillary getting elected.  Guess all you want.  But you don't know.

For instance one of the things everyone said is if Hillary is elected she packs the Supreme Court with radical leftists.

Perhaps so.

But then perhaps, with the Republican majority we still have in the Senate, she goes somewhat more moderate.  Perhaps she goes leftist and the Repubs in the Senate block that.  Admittedly not super likely, but then they blocked Merrick Garland.

And I guess it takes a silly person to know silly people in this instance.  No, to deny that Trump's "unbelievable victory" was an act of God is not to deny God altogether.

Do you just live in your own world of hyperbole and ludicrous claims?

Sure, we can say God was involved.  He builds up and tears down kingdoms and rulers.  But then, that also means He was involved in 8 years of Obama.  Which means even when He's involved, it's not always for our benefit but sometimes is for our correction.

There's also a group of people who make up the synagogue of Satan who are "involved" as well, and God allows them to control much of the events in this world at this time.  And just as Hillary knows them well, Trump does as well.  Trump was working for the Rothschilds and Rockefellers from the moment he got into the casino industry.  He was working deals with and taking loans from Soros before a lot of people knew there was a Soros.  He was nearly bankrupt PERSONALLY but those "globalist bankers" he railed against and that he stacked his administration with decided he was worth more to them if he wasn't financially destroyed- a direct quote from an interview on television years ago.

Hillary is corrupt and evil.  Trump is corrupt and evil.  The fact that you think God would want to put either of them in power for our good quite frankly is a misunderstanding of huge proportions.

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Then blame Dixie, cause Cruz couldn't even win the Bible belt, save his home state and Oklahoma, no way can we assume he was going to take Michigan and Pennsylvania. This becomes a total disconnect with reality.  Conceivably, he could have taken Wisconsin.


Despite the youtube video of what Trump said about Planned Parenthood, he has defunded the international Planned Parenthood and given states the power to defund Planned Parenthood.

Respectfully, we can thank Senator Cruz for a goose egg for the pro-life cause.

Yes, Trump continued the past practice of doing what every recent Republican president has done just as Obama continue the practice of what every recent Democrat president has done when it comes to the "international Planned Parenthood".  Near as I can tell it makes little to no difference either way, though I could be wrong.

And states always have had the right to defund Planned Parenthood if they so wished.  Or at least they're supposed to.  The fact that the would need some kind of permission or blessing from DC just shows how screwed up we've become.

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Cruz, Rubio too, clearly moved their immigration policies nearer to Trump as well.

Trump could well end up nominating Cruz to the Supreme Court, Cruz has praised Trump numerous times.

Disingenuous seems to be what arguments against Trump by some are, along with name-calling, NY Liberal, though he campaigned with Cruz, "Donald is my friend", the list can go on.

As for NATO, NATO allies have contributed $10 billion dollars, paying up their debts since Trump came in.

Expanded drilling in the Gulf and elsewhere, it's really hard to see where people are coming from.