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'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say


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At least 94 Isis militants have been killed in an attack that saw the US military drop the largest non-nuclear weapon it has ever used in combat, Afghan officials say.

Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the provincial governor in Nangarhar, where the bomb fell, said the number of Isis members dead was up from the 36 reported a day earlier.

“Fortunately, there is no report of civilians being killed in the attack,” Mr Khogyani said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/afghan-death-toll-94-us-isis-mother-of-all-bombs-donald-trump-taliban-a7684731.html

To all the people who continually criticize me for hating Trump.  This is a Trump action that Chosen can support.  The killing of at least 94 ISIS militants.  Yes I am sure that yuuuge MOAB bomb was bigly expensive.  But it is a bigly message to these militants.  We got the goods to destroy you.
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 06:19:32 pm »
To all the people who continually criticize me for hating Trump.  This is a Trump action that Chosen can support.  The killing of at least 94 ISIS militants.  Yes I am sure that yuuuge MOAB bomb was bigly expensive.  But it is a bigly message to these militants.  We got the goods to destroy you.


You aren't alone.  The cost of that weapon isn't nearly as costly as a lot of things we've done, and the impact (no pun intended) is on the infrastructure more than the casualty count.  I hope we get good BDA info.
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2017, 06:31:03 pm »

You aren't alone.  The cost of that weapon isn't nearly as costly as a lot of things we've done, and the impact (no pun intended) is on the infrastructure more than the casualty count.  I hope we get good BDA info.

I hope so.
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 06:38:39 pm »
The cost per bomb, would drop bigly, if we decided to make 1,000 more.

And the accurate headcount of dead terrorists, would take 1,000 years of digging, to determine.

My preference is to make more bombs, and not let them go to waste.

Plenty of good target area, there:

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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 06:40:44 pm »

You aren't alone.  The cost of that weapon isn't nearly as costly as a lot of things we've done, and the impact (no pun intended) is on the infrastructure more than the casualty count.  I hope we get good BDA info.
I have to give the man credit. No diddling around, hit 'em hard, and it sends a message that there is new management at 1600 PA Ave. If the BDA is correct, this was a surgical strike with a 16 lb hammer, and should not only hamper activities in the area, but give the terrorists something to think about.
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 06:41:23 pm »
The cost per bomb, would drop bigly, if we decided to make 1,000 more.

And the accurate headcount of dead terrorists, would take 1,000 years of digging, to determine.

My preference is to make more bombs, and not let them go to waste.

Plenty of good target area, there:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B004'24.0%22N+70%C2%B037'52.4%22E/@34.073336,70.631214,9z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d34.073336!4d70.631214?hl=en

True.  This I can support.  Regime change.  No.

Just stating that we should be concentrating our energies on ISIS, Taliban, Al Qaeda, and all militant groups including those who we have previously supported in Syria who have proven militant.  That should be the focus in every country where these militants are operating.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 07:04:04 pm »
True.  This I can support.  Regime change.  No.

Just stating that we should be concentrating our energies on ISIS, Taliban, Al Qaeda, and all militant groups including those who we have previously supported in Syria who have proven militant.  That should be the focus in every country where these militants are operating.
Yep. Hit the bad guys and leave the rest to choose how they want to live.
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2017, 07:14:58 pm »
Yep. Hit the bad guys and leave the rest to choose how they want to live.

Exactly.  I think also that one things will take care of another.  We have no business in regime change.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2017, 07:24:47 pm »
Exactly.  I think also that one things will take care of another.  We have no business in regime change.
Those are sovereign countries, with governments formed as the people allow/permit/prefer. Let them decide their own course in that way, just to achieve something approaching stability, then go in and deal with the management if we so choose. If someone is performing genocide, we have the option of stepping in and disrupting those efforts by taking out the bad guys. If they are using WMDs (NBC warfare), take the appropriate action to stop that use and destroy their stockpiles and production. I don't have a problem with that, and I doubt most of the other nations of the world would either.
As for regime change (puppet government insertion), I do not see where that would be a stable arrangement, and with boots on the ground, it gets treacly.
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2017, 07:36:29 pm »
True.  This I can support.  Regime change.  No.

Just stating that we should be concentrating our energies on ISIS, Taliban, Al Qaeda, and all militant groups including those who we have previously supported in Syria who have proven militant.  That should be the focus in every country where these militants are operating.

Regime change has not proven possible or effective in these areas.  Bombs... yep.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 07:38:47 pm »
Those are sovereign countries, with governments formed as the people allow/permit/prefer. Let them decide their own course in that way, just to achieve something approaching stability, then go in and deal with the management if we so choose. If someone is performing genocide, we have the option of stepping in and disrupting those efforts by taking out the bad guys. If they are using WMDs (NBC warfare), take the appropriate action to stop that use and destroy their stockpiles and production. I don't have a problem with that, and I doubt most of the other nations of the world would either.
As for regime change (puppet government insertion), I do not see where that would be a stable arrangement, and with boots on the ground, it gets treacly.

I don't want boots on the ground.  We have far more sophisticated technology for precision bombing ... we have drones ... the only boots we need are on intelligence gathering people.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 07:41:36 pm »
Those are sovereign countries, with governments formed as the people allow/permit/prefer. Let them decide their own course in that way, just to achieve something approaching stability, then go in and deal with the management if we so choose. If someone is performing genocide, we have the option of stepping in and disrupting those efforts by taking out the bad guys. If they are using WMDs (NBC warfare), take the appropriate action to stop that use and destroy their stockpiles and production. I don't have a problem with that, and I doubt most of the other nations of the world would either.
As for regime change (puppet government insertion), I do not see where that would be a stable arrangement, and with boots on the ground, it gets treacly.

So, when Iran has funnelled arms through Syria including missiles that have been fired into Israel randomly by Hezbollah and Palestinian groups, Israel should just try to intercept those missiles? Got it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

Israel has fired missiles into Syria a dozen times in the last 12 years, where are the Trump haters on this issue disparaging Israel?
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Re: 'Mother of all bombs' death toll rises to 94, Afghan authorities say
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2017, 07:47:27 pm »
Plenty of evidence shows Assad allowed terrorists to attack and kill American and coalition troops in Iraq during Bush's invasion; Assad is as much of a terrorist and the biggest killer in Syria. Does one like refugees? Good then, be for Assad, he's the one most of them are fleeing.

Syria has a park dedicated to the founder of North Korea, birds of a feather flock together.

Bashar's father helped kill 250 Marines in 1983; these people are the cause of the problems there. Syria is on the countries listed as State Sponsors of Terrorism.

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Assad played brazen strategic games to sustain Syrian leverage. During the Israeli invasion, he supported the deployment of Iranian Revolutionary Guards in Lebanon—and the creation of a new Shiite militia that grew into Hezbollah. It was blamed, in April, 1983, for the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, the first suicide attack against an American target anywhere. It was followed by attacks on U.S. Marine peacekeepers deployed in Lebanon, where more than two hundred Navy personnel were killed, and on a second U.S. Embassy.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-assad-family-nemesis-of-nine-u-s-presidents

Just neo-Nazis like Richard Spencer and David Puke are supporting Assad.

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2017, 07:51:44 pm »
Plenty of evidence shows Assad allowed terrorists to attack and kill American and coalition troops in Iraq during Bush's invasion; Assad is as much of a terrorist and the biggest killer in Syria. Does one like refugees? Good then, be for Assad, he's the one most of them are fleeing.

Syria has a park dedicated to the founder of North Korea, birds of a feather flock together.

Bashar's father helped kill 250 Marines in 1983; these people are the cause of the problems there. Syria is on the countries listed as State Sponsors of Terrorism.

Just neo-Nazis like Richard Spencer and David Puke are supporting Assad.

What interests does Putin have in continuing the status quo?

What benefits do the current Syrian government provide Russia?  Isn't Putin already on great terms with Tehran?

What's the deal?
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2017, 07:56:41 pm »
What interests does Putin have in continuing the status quo?

What benefits do the current Syrian government provide Russia?  Isn't Putin already on great terms with Tehran?

What's the deal?

The Russians can keep their warm water base at Latakia.

Whether one wants to accept it or not, the leaders of the free world say Assad is committing genocide against his own people.

He may have even helped set ISIS up to begin with, he certainly buys their oil.

https://historyxisis.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/did-assad-really-help-build-isis-an-examination-of-the-evidence/
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2017, 08:01:52 pm »
So, when Iran has funnelled arms through Syria including missiles that have been fired into Israel randomly by Hezbollah and Palestinian groups, Israel should just try to intercept those missiles? Got it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

Israel has fired missiles into Syria a dozen times in the last 12 years, where are the Trump haters on this issue disparaging Israel?

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2017, 08:07:46 pm »
Nethanyahu praised Trump for his strike on the Syrian airport, Netanyahu condemned Syria and Assad for the chemical attack some days ago.

Israel has bombed Syria 12 times in the past two years, I'd like to hear the haters condemn that.

I will go with Netanyahu's words and not the hatemongerers.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2017, 08:29:24 pm »
Nethanyahu praised Trump for his strike on the Syrian airport, Netanyahu condemned Syria and Assad for the chemical attack some days ago.

Israel has bombed Syria 12 times in the past two years, I'd like to hear the haters condemn that.

I will go with Netanyahu's words and not the hatemongerers.

There needs to be some perspective used here.

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Israel has every right to bomb the snot out of Syria.  At will.   For all the reasons you've outlined above...regarding Assad's complicity.
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2017, 08:32:18 pm »
Nethanyahu praised Trump for his strike on the Syrian airport, Netanyahu condemned Syria and Assad for the chemical attack some days ago.

Israel has bombed Syria 12 times in the past two years, I'd like to hear the haters condemn that.

I will go with Netanyahu's words and not the hatemongerers.

Well I guess you would be accusing Trump of hating himself then.  Because before he hated Assad he was looking forward to working with the Russian, Iranian, Syrian coalition against terrorism.  Forgot that about him did you?  He was looking forward to good relations with Russia.  All for joining all of them in the fight against ISIS.  And for your knowledge if you ever read Israel news they are quite friendly with Putin too.  Russia has declared the Jerusalem should be their capitol.  They also have been weary of Trump making statements that they have to end settlement building.

Of course I side with Israel.  But I don't approve of regime change.  If Syria attacks Israel they have my support in any military assistance we can give them.

You and your ilk who have to label people with hate are making it impossible for anyone in this forum to have positive discussion.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2017, 10:14:07 pm »
Good.  Keep digging and keep counting.

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2017, 10:30:48 pm »
@Chosen Daughter

Apparently not as bigly expensive as the DU would want you to believe. Actual cost per unit: $170k according to a different post.

If that is the case, we should start carpet bombing ISIS with these things.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2017, 10:31:40 pm »
Good.  Keep digging and keep counting.

It's hard to count. I mean, they have 94 head fragments, but 223 separate big toes.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2017, 10:35:58 pm »
@Chosen Daughter

Apparently not as bigly expensive as the DU would want you to believe. Actual cost per unit: $170k according to a different post.

If that is the case, we should start carpet bombing ISIS with these things.

I agree.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2017, 11:00:04 pm »
It's hard to count. I mean, they have 94 head fragments, but 223 separate big toes.

@bolobaby

Lol, and after all, who really knows WHAT those parts are anymore.

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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2017, 11:05:42 pm »
You and your ilk who have to label people with hate are making it impossible for anyone in this forum to have positive discussion.

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Actually (and with all respect to you), @TomSea and his hate tic are irrelevant to any conversation I want to have.  He, and a few others, do their best to shame others for not liking Trump.  But the shame game doesn't work. because there's absolutely nothing wrong with not liking or nor trusting any politician.  We owe absolutely nothing to public servants.  They owe us