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Against Bombing:

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Rand Paul
Laura Ingraham
Ann Coulter

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Pelosi
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CNN
France
Germany
UK
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Nice job @LonestarDream  Should Saudi Arabia and other Arab states be added to the "for" roster?

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Dunno about you, but I prefer my intelligence analysis from someone who didn't lose their access to classified intel back when Bill Clinton was sworn in.

But, hey, that's just me.  :shrug:
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We watched many trucks leaving Iraq and heading for Syria at the end of the GWBush presidency.
Even at that time the msm was suggesting that thee trucks were transporting WMD.

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Dunno about you, but I prefer my intelligence analysis from someone who didn't lose their access to classified intel back when Bill Clinton was sworn in.

But, hey, that's just me.  :shrug:

Have you formulated an opinion of your own? Care to share it?

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We watched many trucks leaving Iraq and heading for Syria at the end of the GWBush presidency.
Even at that time the msm was suggesting that thee trucks were transporting WMD.
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/
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Against Bombing:

Andy McCarthy
Savage
Bannon
Thomas Massie
Rand Paul
Laura Ingraham
Ann Coulter

For Bombing:

Hillary
Ivanka
Trump
Jared
Pelosi
Rush
Hannity
Mark Levin
Schumer
Pelosi
CNN
France
Germany
UK
New York Times
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
Rubio
Nikki Haley


There was no bombing in this incident. There was a targeted attack by cruise missiles.

Cruise missiles.

Targeted attack.

The target was airplanes.

At one airfield.

Warnings were given to allow for the evacuation of personnel.

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Nice job @LonestarDream  Should Saudi Arabia and other Arab states be added to the "for" roster?

Yes
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We watched many trucks leaving Iraq and heading for Syria at the end of the GWBush presidency.
Even at that time the msm was suggesting that thee trucks were transporting WMD.

Yes we did.  Savage thinks the attack looked like a chlorine agent.
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http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/


Mr. Sada, 65, told the Sun that the pilots of the two airliners that transported the weapons of mass destruction to Syria from Iraq approached him in the middle of 2004, after Saddam was captured by American troops.

The Iraqi General was Sada.  Thanks for straightening me out on that.
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We watched many trucks leaving Iraq and heading for Syria at the end of the GWBush presidency.
Even at that time the msm was suggesting that thee trucks were transporting WMD.

Yes we did but that inconsiderate SOB Saddam put labels reading "Insecticide" on those drums instead of the proper ones reading "WMD"!

How was anyone to know? /s
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I remember well how much the msm hated on President Bush.
The msm insisted that all those centrifuges were to process pharmaceuticals.........for medicinal purposes.

And yet there are those who continue to hate on Pres. Bush and stick to the line sold to them by the msm, and eventually Colin Powell, that paragon of integrity.

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I'm on the fence.   Not sure what to believe.

I'm leaning towards trusting in our new Secretary of Defense, National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.
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Dunno about you, but I prefer my intelligence analysis from someone who didn't lose their access to classified intel back when Bill Clinton was sworn in.

But, hey, that's just me.  :shrug:

I was wondering about that. 

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Dunno about you, but I prefer my intelligence analysis from someone who didn't lose their access to classified intel back when Bill Clinton was sworn in.

But, hey, that's just me.  :shrug:

Well there is that!   :beer: :beer:
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"One intelligence source told me..."

That's all the proof some need that this was a "former CIA officer".

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Have you formulated an opinion of your own? Care to share it?

I have and I have already done so.

Though a subsequent obsevation does suggest to me that if anyone is interested in Russian influence regarding the election of Trump, they might take a hard look at the funding and promotion of the people currently pushing the false flag narrative - which exonerates the Russians completely from both negligence and complicity.
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I have and I have already done so.

Though a subsequent obsevation does suggest to me that if anyone is interested in Russian influence regarding the election of Trump, they might take a hard look at the funding and promotion of the people currently pushing the false flag narrative - which exonerates the Russians completely from both negligence and complicity.

Excellent.

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For Bombing:

Hillary
Ivanka
Trump
Jared
Pelosi
Rush
Hannity
Mark Levin
Schumer
Pelosi
CNN
France
Germany
UK
New York Times
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
Rubio
Nikki Haley

Ted Cruz
Tom Cotton
Oliver North

Additionally, I haven't seen any info that Laura Ingraham was against it.

Against Bombing:

David Duke
Richard Spencer
Alex Jones
Richard Parry, Consortium News
Zero Hedge

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Yes we did but that inconsiderate SOB Saddam put labels reading "Insecticide" on those drums instead of the proper ones reading "WMD"!

How was anyone to know? /s

Sarin was developed by the Nazis as a pesticide. Here is an article on Sarin.

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarin-gas-weapon-effects-human-body-2017-4
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I have and I have already done so.

Though a subsequent obsevation does suggest to me that if anyone is interested in Russian influence regarding the election of Trump, they might take a hard look at the funding and promotion of the people currently pushing the false flag narrative - which exonerates the Russians completely from both negligence and complicity.
There is absolutely no exoneration for either Russia OR Obama OR Assad in this. All bear moral responsibility.

The term "false flag" is getting tossed around without much precision attached. And while I do understand an immediate attribution to malice (and can go there myself), there is always the element of incompetence to consider.



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I think this time, they got the proof and that is why Trump acted.

Things always happen and then, if it is the Russians like that jet that was shot down over Ukraine, they will deny it.

US usually admits to errors according to one person I heard.

I think they have the facts this time because this is how the Russians will act. "We didn't do it".
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There is absolutely no exoneration for either Russia OR Obama OR Assad in this. All bear moral responsibility.

The term "false flag" is getting tossed around without much precision attached. And while I do understand an immediate attribution to malice (and can go there myself), there is always the element of incompetence to consider.

I quite agree! Detest the term false flag (and fake news, for that matter), since it means so many different things. It's not precise.

However (and since you know me, you knew that was coming  :tongue2: ) here we have two main conflicting narratives.

1/ Assad (or possibly Russia on Assad's behalf) gassed his own people. In support of this we have radar tracks of aircraft, infra red signatures of the bombs being dropped, lack of sufficient high explosive damage at the target site, photos taken in the aftermath of the tomahawking of the airbase that clearly show binary agent munitions, and every indication, including his own words prior to the gassing, that President Trump would do absolutely nothing in response to it.

2/ ISIS did it to make Assad look bad and provoke Trump into responding. In support of this we have "Why would Assad gas his own people?" and "ISIS have used gas before to stage events." That's it.

Of those two - which do you think is more likely, based on the evidence?
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Of those two - which do you think is more likely, based on the evidence?

At this point, number two.

And at this point, I would want Trump to float that as a possibility that has come to light and will be rigorously investigated.

I know, I know.....
I can dream. But, there is a lot of upside to getting in front of it before ISIS claims credit.

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It's the next gas attack that's going to be the problem. That could be either of them (I'd say 85% ISIS, 10% Assad chancing it, 5% rebels).

 
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