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 Saturday, Apr 1, 2017 08:58 AM CST

Vacate Trump Tower: People want Melania Trump to be forced to leave New York City
A petition requests that Melania leave and save the city a ton of money

Kali Holloway, AlterNet

The exorbitant cost of keeping Melania and Barron Trump in their gold-plated penthouse in New York City has inspired thousands to sign a petition asking that they be forced to leave town. The viral Change.org request, titled “Make Melania Trump Stay in the White House or Pay for the Expenses Herself,” already has more than 175,000 signatures. The petition is a response to the drain on city dollars brought on by the stunning security costs — up to $146,000 a day — of keeping Melania and Barron in Trump Tower, according to New York City Police estimates given to The New York Times.

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Saturday, Apr 1, 2017 08:58 AM CST

Vacate Trump Tower: People want Melania Trump to be forced to leave New York City
A petition requests that Melania leave and save the city a ton of money

Kali Holloway, AlterNet

The exorbitant cost of keeping Melania and Barron Trump in their gold-plated penthouse in New York City has inspired thousands to sign a petition asking that they be forced to leave town. The viral Change.org request, titled “Make Melania Trump Stay in the White House or Pay for the Expenses Herself,” already has more than 175,000 signatures. The petition is a response to the drain on city dollars brought on by the stunning security costs — up to $146,000 a day — of keeping Melania and Barron in Trump Tower, according to New York City Police estimates given to The New York Times.

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http://www.salon.com/2017/04/01/people-want-melania-trump-to-be-forced-to-leave-nyc_partner/
It's expensive being a homebody. Maybe she should take the Mooch Obama world tour? (If I'm not mistaken, the building will still have to be secured.)
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(If I'm not mistaken, the building will still have to be secured.)

Forever. Or until Trump dies, at least. Even after he completes his term or terms.
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Forever. Or until Trump dies, at least. Even after he completes his term or terms.

Actually that's not true anymore. I think it gets drawn down over time till there is no further secret service protection. I think 20 years is the cutoff now. Personally I'm not sure the taxpayers should be on the hook for the protection of former presidents and officials who manage to become very wealthy upon leaving office.

Unfortunately it looks like Donald Trump is intent on creating the legacy of being the most expensive presidency of all time and we'll be saddled with that forever.

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Actually that's not true anymore. I think it gets drawn down over time till there is no further secret service protection. I think 20 years is the cutoff now. Personally I'm not sure the taxpayers should be on the hook for the protection of former presidents and officials who manage to become very wealthy upon leaving office.

Unfortunately it looks like Donald Trump is intent on creating the legacy of being the most expensive presidency of all time and we'll be saddled with that forever.

Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/10/obama-signs-bill-gets-secret-service-protection-for-life/
January 10th, 2013

The new law, which passed the House and Senate in December, designates that all former U.S. presidents who served after January 1, 1997, along with their spouses, receive protection from the Secret Service for their entire lifetimes – meaning former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura are also covered. The law also stipulates that children of presidents receive protection until the age of 16.

Lifetime government-provided security for former presidents was the law of the land until 1997, when Congress passed legislation limiting Secret Service protection to ten years after leaving office.
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Cheers @thackney - was certain I remembered something about that. Although, with Trump being 70 now @Cripplecreek probably has the time in the right ballpark
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Let me see if I understand this correctly - New Yorkers are complaining about the cost of something?

That absolutely cannot be true.  It doesn't pass the smell test.

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Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/10/obama-signs-bill-gets-secret-service-protection-for-life/
January 10th, 2013

The new law, which passed the House and Senate in December, designates that all former U.S. presidents who served after January 1, 1997, along with their spouses, receive protection from the Secret Service for their entire lifetimes – meaning former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura are also covered. The law also stipulates that children of presidents receive protection until the age of 16.

Lifetime government-provided security for former presidents was the law of the land until 1997, when Congress passed legislation limiting Secret Service protection to ten years after leaving office.
What? The kids only get Secret Service protection until they are 16, but have to be carried on mom and dad's insurance for another 10 years.  **nononono* :shrug:
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(If I'm not mistaken, the building will still have to be secured.)

Yes, you're mistaken, I think. Once the building is taken by eminent domain in the public good (Trump will be happy with this...he's on record as saying that people are happy when their property is confiscated that way), I doubt there will be much threat to it after the Trumps are evicted.
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Yes, you're mistaken, I think. Once the building is taken by eminent domain in the public good (Trump will be happy with this...he's on record as saying that people are happy when their property is confiscated that way), I doubt there will be much threat to it after the Trumps are evicted.
Funny thing about Trump and eminent domain. When he was trying to take the woman's house, he tried to hire the woman's attorney to work against another developer who was trying to eminent domain some houses to put a tunnel between buildings. That would have given the other developer a feature which would have competed with Trump's facility...So he was for it before he was against it, and it all depends on who is doing what with it. Which is the problem with letting laws like eminent domain get out of hand.

Now, who would bring more revenue in than 145,000/day just being there, not counting the rest of the building's revenue? It has to show a tax advantage to squeak in under the criminal auspices of Kelo.
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Funny thing about Trump and eminent domain. When he was trying to take the woman's house, he tried to hire the woman's attorney to work against another developer who was trying to eminent domain some houses to put a tunnel between buildings. That would have given the other developer a feature which would have competed with Trump's facility...So he was for it before he was against it, and it all depends on who is doing what with it. Which is the problem with letting laws like eminent domain get out of hand.

Yes, Trump is a hypocrite.

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Now, who would bring more revenue in than 145,000/day just being there, not counting the rest of the building's revenue? It has to show a tax advantage to squeak in under the criminal auspices of Kelo.

Doesn't have to fall under that. It's simply for "public use" with broad economic development from cost savings.
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Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/10/obama-signs-bill-gets-secret-service-protection-for-life/
January 10th, 2013

The new law, which passed the House and Senate in December, designates that all former U.S. presidents who served after January 1, 1997, along with their spouses, receive protection from the Secret Service for their entire lifetimes – meaning former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura are also covered. The law also stipulates that children of presidents receive protection until the age of 16.

Lifetime government-provided security for former presidents was the law of the land until 1997, when Congress passed legislation limiting Secret Service protection to ten years after leaving office.

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Thank you. I did not know that. For some odd reason the press was awful quiet about this.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly - New Yorkers are complaining about the cost of something?

That absolutely cannot be true.  It doesn't pass the smell test.

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They are mad because taxpayer money is being spent on crackas.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly - New Yorkers are complaining about the cost of something?

That absolutely cannot be true.  It doesn't pass the smell test.

It's their tax dollars, not other people's.
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It's their tax dollars, not other people's.

You can always tell a completely accurate assessment of something. It sounds harsh.  :beer:
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Yes, Trump is a hypocrite.

Doesn't have to fall under that. It's simply for "public use" with broad economic development from cost savings.
Eminent domain in that case would have to have a local aspect. There is none. The building is there, brings in revenue, and 145K a day in extra 'economic development'. I am sure the NYC powers that be have no objections, other than it is Trump. As long as they pay their taxes, what's not to like for them?
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