Purists Kill Whatever They Believe In

[rangerrebew]

Purists Kill Whatever They Believe In
Dennis Prager
 
|
Posted: Mar 28, 2017 12:01 AM
 

According to The New York Times, 10 moderates, 15 conservatives, and eight other Republicans would have voted against the Republican repeal and replace Obamacare bill. So, then, 15 or so conservatives made it impossible to pass the bill favored by nearly every other Republican and by President Donald Trump. If that is the case, what we have here is another conservative example of purism and principle damaging another major opportunity to do good.

The first purist conservative example were the Never-Trumpers, who believed it was better for Hillary Clinton to be elected president and for the Left to have four more years of presidential power than for Donald Trump to win.

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2017/03/28/purists-kill-whatever-they-believe-in-n2305024?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

[geronl]

No what we have here is that 15 actually want to try to keep the promise the GOP has been making for 6 years. The rest of them never had any intention. "Repeal and Replace" was a lie, they simply wanted to tweak ObamaCare at the margins.

Forgetting the major campaign promise (without even an attempt) is a good way to lose every election in the future.

[Smokin Joe]

Trump didn't write that bill. Trump didn't vote on it either (for that matter, neither did the House).

The failure is on the GOP there in the House to have wasted 7 years doing Kabuki theater to retain their seats and get votes from back home because they'd repeal the ACA if they just had                 (fill in the blank with the latest need).

By golly, the voters delivered.

They delivered a majority in the House, a majority in the Senate, and the White House, too.

But the GOP in the House of Representatives failed to deliver a bill to repeal, and failed to deliver enough votes to pass it.

What they did deliver is another round of excuses and another failure to deliver on the promises that got them into office.

[Smokin Joe]

Forgetting the major campaign promise (without even an attempt) is a good way to lose every election in the future.

I guess they have forgotten what happened to Daddy Bush over "Read my lips. No new taxes." Not that the outcome didn't suck for America, but the voters were not buying another round of that.

[Cripplecreek]

Seems pretty obvious that some just want what the democrats have. A blindly following base without principles and free reign to behave as badly as they want.

[Jazzhead]

Repealing the ACA without provision for the damage that would cause is politically idiotic.   

But let's punish the GOP anyway.   

[driftdiver]

Seems pretty obvious that some just want what the democrats have. A blindly following base without principles and free reign to behave as badly as they want.

@Cripplecreek

Insisting on some random set of personal principles and refusal to compromise sounds great.  Your eyes on the far horizon focused on a wonderful, almost Utopian world.   A world where people take responsibility for themselves and live happily every after.

In practice an inability to compromise results in a fractured group of people on the sideline who are unable to get anything done, unable to move their agenda forward. 

There are reasons this country has moved further and further left over the last 50 years.  Thomas Jefferson predicted we would have issues keeping our Republic.  He understood how peoples behavior would drive policy.   

[driftdiver]

Repealing the ACA without provision for the damage that would cause is politically idiotic.   

But let's punish the GOP anyway.   

@Jazzhead
What damage would it cause? 

[driftdiver]

The bill sucked.   There are other bills already proposed which are far better.

This bill was an attempt by the GOPe to further their agenda.

[Smokin Joe]

@Cripplecreek

Insisting on some random set of personal principles and refusal to compromise sounds great.  Your eyes on the far horizon focused on a wonderful, almost Utopian world.   A world where people take responsibility for themselves and live happily every after.

In practice an inability to compromise results in a fractured group of people on the sideline who are unable to get anything done, unable to move their agenda forward. 

There are reasons this country has moved further and further left over the last 50 years.  Thomas Jefferson predicted we would have issues keeping our Republic.  He understood how peoples behavior would drive policy.

But the thought that the principles involved are 'random' is part of the problem. Those principles are design specifications when it comes to the Constitution, they are part of the owner's manual when it comes to Biblical morals (YMMV).
It is compromising on those well established and documented specifications that is causing problems, because every compromise has been a step away from the way things were designed to work.
If a train is designed to run on two rails, and the people assailing that concept think it should not need any rails, ant the compromise is to have it on one rail...compromise is only a plus for tourists at Disneyland.

The reason this country has moved further and further left over the past 80 years IS compromise, not the lack of it. Every time Constitutional principles have been compromised, every time moral principles have been compromised, the direction has been toward socialism and away from well established traditional mores. Had those who resisted that shift done so, without compromise, we wouldn't have the mess we do.
Now, once again, those standing on those well-established principles (which only seem alien or extreme as a measure of how far the country has shifted away from those principles already) are told again by those to the left they need to compromise? All that means is we go left by half measures, again.