Trump accused the Freedom Caucus of 'saving' Obamacare. Its leader said it's not over.

[Lando Lincoln]

This thing ain't over by a long shot.  I just have no idea where the heck it is going.

[txradioguy]

Thanks, Freedom Caucus!

Wasn't the Freedom Caucus that caused this problem.

Not that it matters to you.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Thank you for proving that besides being overly emotional where Trump is concerned...you like most Trump supporters just want vengeance and “winning” no matter what that means.

Oh, good grief @txradioguy .  Had the FC supported this bill (in which many of their requests were met)...there's a pretty good chance the bill would now be in reconciliation with the Senate where more changes could have been made with more time build a larger coalition.

This is the type of strategic thinking missing from most conservatives in today's congress --- making it harder, if not impossible, to move their ideas from the cerebral into law.

[txradioguy]

This thing ain't over by a long shot.  I just have no idea where the heck it is going.

Unfortunately I fear it's going towards single payer which is where Trump wanted to take it all along.

And then we'll have to hear about what a great idea it is.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Translation:  When it comes to welshing on deals and betraying your constituents, it becomes necessary to toss out previous values and standards in order to shaft the voters, once again, in true establishment RINO fashion.

Sometimes @XenaLee it's better to let folks guess how little you understand rather than prove it.  This may be one of those times.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Just another bloviating miasma of  bullshit

Right back at ya @INVAR 

[Sanguine]

Sometimes @XenaLee it's better to let folks guess how little you understand and not prove it.  This may be one of those times.   

@Right_in_Virginia, you were doing so well for a couple of days, very little snark and contempt - you actually communicated respectfully with other posters.  What happened?   You've gone back to snarknado with a vengence.

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

Of course you do, humans are emotional.  So unless you're a blood relation to Spock and not in Pon farr then most of the decisions you make every day are impacted by your emotions.

Leftists understand this and leverage it to their benefit.    Conservatives are still trying to pretend.

@driftdiver

That's a fair point.  I'm a woman, and I don't pretend to be a Vulcan.

I should have phrased it differently.  "I don't base my politics on emotion" is  more accurate.  I research, I learn, I judge candidates by their histories and their records.  I don't get into political crushes or idol worship.

[txradioguy]

Oh, good grief @txradioguy .  Had the FC supported this bill (in which many of their requests were met)...there's a pretty good chance the bill would now be in reconciliation with the Senate where more changes could have been made with more time build a larger coalition.

This is the type of strategic thinking missing from most conservatives in today's congress --- making it harder, if not impossible, to move their ideas from the cerebral into law.

Unlike you the FC doesn't cave or compromise their principles for the first cheerleaders Nationalism spewing politician like you do.

And neither do most of us here.

[txradioguy]

Sometimes @XenaLee it's better to let folks guess how little you understand rather than prove it.  This may be one of those times.   

@XenaLee has a far better and more realistic grasp of the situation than you do.

[XenaLee]

You're about to get them. Bernie Sanders' single payer style.

Which.... he's already stated that he'd be ok with.

Looks like we maybe have been sold out.... yet again.  Apparently, Kabuki Theatre is the only show in town in Trumpsville.  (and yet another Trojan Horse scenario for Americans)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-heart-healthcare-everybody/2016/01/31/id/712069/

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/sep/11/reid-ribble/donald-trump-wants-replace-obamacare-single-payer-/

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia, you were doing so well for a couple of days, very little snark and contempt - you actually communicated respectfully with other posters.  What happened?   You've gone back to snarknado with a vengence.

It's apparent my very presence offends you @Sanguine  --- You've had nothing but ill will for me for months, (mis)judging my posts while ignoring the posts I respond to.  It's enough.   I'm weary of your trashing and do not want to want to engage in a forum war with you.

So please find a way to live with me or put me on ignore. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

@XenaLee has a far better and more realistic grasp of the situation than you do.

In your opinion @txradioguy  ^-^

[XenaLee]

The GOP's lack of ideology has created a vacuum of principle. Nature abhors a vacuum.

Except in outer space.   

[XenaLee]

It's apparent my very presence offends you @Sanguine  --- You've had nothing but ill will for me for months, (mis)judging my posts while ignoring the posts I respond to.  It's enough.   I'm weary of your trashing and do not want to want to engage in a forum war with you.

So please find a way to live with me or put me on ignore.

Oh....trust me.   Your presence offends a lot of folks here.  It's just that most of us on the right (real conservatives) are more tolerant than the idiot left ....or the people you call 'your friends'.   

[Silver Pines]

It must be all an act over here.  Or....is it an act over there?  (confused)  It's amazing how she's not quite so ""devout"" over at TOS.  Are there two different RIVs posting on the net?  Or.. is it merely a case of (split) multiple personality syndrome?  Inquiring minds want to know.   

@XenaLee
@Right_in_Virginia

IMO it boils down to wanting to save face....or, in other words, pride.  It's okay to criticize Trump when you're among those who "love" him. 

I still think she'd get a lot less blowback here if she would drop the pretense and the smarmy condescension and be real.  That's her choice, though.

[Silver Pines]

It's apparent my very presence offends you @Sanguine  --- You've had nothing but ill will for me for months, (mis)judging my posts while ignoring the posts I respond to.  It's enough.   I'm weary of your trashing and do not want to want to engage in a forum war with you.

So please find a way to live with me or put me on ignore.

@Right_in_Virginia

I don't think I've seen anyone less likely to go on personal vendettas than @Sanguine.  Seriously, RIV.  She's fair no matter who she's posting to.

[Sanguine]

It's apparent my very presence offends you @Sanguine  --- You've had nothing but ill will for me for months, (mis)judging my posts while ignoring the posts I respond to.  It's enough.   I'm weary of your trashing and do not want to want to engage in a forum war with you.

So please find a way to live with me or put me on ignore.

Now, @Right_in_Virginia, you're slipping - that wasn't even a good diversion.  Why don't you try responding to what I actually wrote instead of what you want to respond to?

[XenaLee]

Sometimes @XenaLee it's better to let folks guess how little you understand rather than prove it.  This may be one of those times.   

Oh look!   There's that sanctimonious, superior-minded leftie-like behavior again!  Oh yes, RIV.   Please .....do pontificate and drone on and on about how much smarter you are than the rest of us.  Go ahead.  Dazzle us with your brilliance!   

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee
@Right_in_Virginia

IMO it boils down to wanting to save face....or, in other words, pride.  It's okay to criticize Trump when you're among those who "love" him. 

I still think she'd get a lot less blowback here if she would drop the pretense and the smarmy condescension and be real. That's her choice, though.

Except... maybe.... she's not capable of dropping it.  In which case, I still feel sorry for her.  Just...not enough to let her get away with her crap rhetoric.   She needs to be called on her BS every single time.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Now, @Right_in_Virginia, you're slipping - that wasn't even a good diversion.  Why don't you try responding to what I actually wrote instead of what you want to respond to?

Oh, go away.  I'm hoping to have intelligent discussions with intelligent people.  I do wish you'd stop interrupting @Sanguine

[Lando Lincoln]

[Sanguine]

Oh, go away.  I'm hoping to have intelligent discussions with intelligent people.  I do wish you'd stop interrupting @Sanguine

It's rough when you get called out, isn't it?  And, you were doing so well.  You were actually pleasant to be around for a bit.  Show us more of that.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Except... maybe.... she's not capable of dropping it.  In which case, I still feel sorry for her.  Just...not enough to let her get away with her crap rhetoric.   She needs to be called on her BS every single time.

  @mystery-ak

[XenaLee]

Unlike you the FC doesn't cave or compromise their principles for the first cheerleaders Nationalism spewing politician like you do.

And neither do most of us here.

Caving and compromising on crap legislation is what RINOs do.  It's what got us into this mess in the first place via letting the Democrats get away with far too much for far too long.  Somebody somewhere and at some time has got to take a stand.  Instead, it's open season (once again and per usual) on the very conservatives that take that stand.  Disgusting.