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Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train

By  Liz Peek   
 ·Published March 24, 2017

· FoxNews.com
 
This is the truth: the Freedom Caucus has breathed new life into the demolished Democratic Party.

It is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who are celebrating the breakdown of efforts to pass the Affordable Care Act – not the country.

For eight years Democrats have accused Republicans of being the “Party of No”, only capable of obstruction and posturing but not of governing. In defeating the efforts of Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Tom Price and Donald Trump to dump ObamaCare and replace it with a slimmed-down, more intelligent and flexible program, they have given Democrats incalculable ammunition to make that case.

It’s not the first time. Over the past several years the House voted dozens of times to repeal all or part of ObamaCare, a gesture both pointless and borderline absurd; President Obama was never going to sign legislation dooming his legacy achievement, even if somehow the measure made it through the Senate. But it sure made House Republicans feel good about themselves.

Now that they actually have a chance to do something meaningful – repeal the taxes and fees that are the undercarriage of the Affordable Care Act – they can’t make it to the finish line. 

Let us consider some hard facts:

Number One: Conservatives are not in the majority in the United States. If they were, Evan McMullin would be president.

Number Two: The country does not want to return to the pre-ACA era. President Obama produced a monstrous piece of legislation, which was doomed by its excessive mandates and its inability to attract young, healthy patients. But the bill itself is not Obama’s legacy. Rather, he will be credited with changing the country’s viewpoint on universal health care. Few Americans today think we should be the rare developed nation that fails to provide medical services to every citizen.

Number Three: Crafting a compromise health care bill that will safeguard popular provisions that President Trump vowed to keep, like protections for those with preexisting conditions or the ability to keep children up to the age of 26 on their parent’s insurance, is not easy.

The ACA is something of a mess, and the scoring received by the CBO reflects its shortcomings. But there is more to follow, such as allowing insurers to compete across state lines, which will make it better.

The Senate, too, will have a chance to weigh in.

The vote, in other words, is not strictly on the ACA, but on a process which will lead to an improvement over the status quo. The bill as it now stands is imperfect, but it’s better than ObamaCare.


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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/24/liz-peek-time-for-freedom-caucus-to-climb-aboard-trump-train.html

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 07:15:48 pm »
Nope.  The Freedom Caucus should be lauded for fighting for a repeal of Obamacare and NOT supporting Trumpcare.

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 07:25:50 pm »
Nope.  The Freedom Caucus should be lauded for fighting for a repeal of Obamacare and NOT supporting Trumpcare RyanCare.

Trump did not author this piece of crap. Ryan and his health-insurance-pharma-lawyer lobbyists did.

Now applaud.
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2017, 07:33:27 pm »
Who the hell is Liz Peek?
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 07:34:02 pm »
I didn't vote for my congressman to be obedient to party leadership and Trump.

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 07:36:48 pm »
Freakin' Baloney......

I salute the Freedom Caucus as they send the Orange fool a "one finger" gesture.

I hope they hang tough and attack Trump with the same veracity that  he threatens.
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 07:38:34 pm »
I didn't vote for my congressman to be obedient to party leadership and Trump.
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 07:42:29 pm »
Who the hell is Liz Peek?

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   Some bubble headed bleach blond that comes on at 5 on the FOX Network, would be my best guess.

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 07:44:49 pm »
Nope.  The Freedom Caucus should be lauded for fighting for a repeal of Obamacare and NOT supporting Trumpcare.

Absolutely.

I hope they resist the Trump threats and maintain their position against government controlled health care.
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 07:59:09 pm »
Principles still matter more than personality cults, so no way

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 08:04:50 pm »
I think it's time for the Paul Ryan lemings and Trump to board the freedom caucus express myself.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 08:06:05 pm »
I think it's time for the Paul Ryan lemings and Trump to board the freedom caucus express myself.

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2017, 08:11:59 pm »
Nope.  The Freedom Caucus should be lauded for fighting for a repeal of Obamacare and NOT supporting Trumpcare.
As should be my congressman, Louie Gohmert, the notorious outlaw who does not need a group as he terrorizes alone.
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2017, 08:16:40 pm »
When right and wrong are decided by popularity let me know.
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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2017, 08:18:35 pm »
@RetBobbyMI

   Some bubble headed bleach blond that comes on at 5 on the FOX Network, would be my best guess.



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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2017, 08:22:13 pm »
When right and wrong are decided by popularity let me know.

The demands for obedience are only now starting to backfire.

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2017, 08:35:48 pm »
@RetBobbyMI

   Some bubble headed bleach blond that comes on at 5 on the FOX Network, would be my best guess.



No. She is worse than that. She is a Leftist hack who's husband was at the front of the line filling his pockets with TARP money. She is an elitist snob and a stupid whore. 

This article may have well be written by Marvin Snodgrass of Gary IN because it would carry about as much weight.

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Re: Liz Peek: Time for the Freedom Caucus to climb aboard the Trump train
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2017, 08:39:08 pm »
But the bill itself is not Obama’s legacy. Rather, he will be credited with changing the country’s viewpoint on universal health care.

If this were even remotely true, then Hitlary would have been campaigning for it on the trail. The only candidate calling for socialized medicine lost his ass in the Primaries....The Bern.