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White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says

by Jennifer Jacobs and Shannon Pettypiece
‎March‎ ‎24‎, ‎2017‎ ‎10‎:‎03‎ ‎AM  Updated on ‎March‎ ‎24‎, ‎2017‎ ‎10‎:‎26‎ ‎AM 



In public, President Donald Trump is standing by House Speaker Paul Ryan over the Obamacare replacement bill.

Behind the scenes, the president’s aides are planning to blame Ryan if there is an embarrassing defeat on a bill that has been a Republican goal for more than seven years, a senior administration official said.
 
The House is expected to vote this afternoon on the health bill, which is opposed by all Democrats and may not enjoy enough support among either conservative or moderate Republicans. The conservative House Freedom Caucus negotiated several changes to the bill to win over its members.

On Thursday, Trump’s senior strategist took the unusual step of traveling to Capitol Hill to deliver an ultimatum: take the vote on Friday, win or lose. Ryan had sought to carefully build a majority for the bill, and it would be highly unusual for him to call the vote without knowing if it would pass.

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Ryan had little choice but go along with the administration’s gambit.
 
Trump said Friday at the White House that Ryan shouldn’t lose his job if the bill goes down. He also said "no" when asked if the bill had been rushed or if he regretted pursuing a replacement of the Affordable Care Act ahead of other priorities such as a tax overhaul.

But asked whether Trump, Ryan, or the Freedom Caucus chairman, North Carolina Republican Mark Meadows, would be most to blame if the bill fails, the administration official said Ryan. The official insisted on anonymity to discuss internal White House deliberations.

A spokeswoman for Ryan didn’t immediately respond to an request for comment.


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https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-24/white-house-said-to-prepare-to-blame-ryan-if-health-bill-fails

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Paul Ryan is where winning goes to die!

ALL they had to do was what they have done MANY (I forget exactly how many) times previously (when they knew that there was no chance or it passing) and simply repeal Obamacare! 
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It's very interesting   On a thread about a trump tweet on the freedom caucus a few of the trump supporters on TOS are starting to turn on their hero.  Some eyes are being opened   Got popcorn?

@mystery-ak lifelines may be needed....   will be interesting
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It's very interesting   On a thread about a trump tweet on the freedom caucus a few of the trump supporters on TOS are starting to turn on their hero.  Some eyes are being opened   Got popcorn?

@mystery-ak lifelines may be needed....   will be interesting

JR has come out strongly against TRyanCare. Once the lightbulb goes on that it is Trump's baby too, he may need a lifeline from his own site.

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JR has come out strongly against TRyanCare. Once the lightbulb goes on that it is Trump's baby too, he may need a lifeline from his own site.

Nope  He owns it   His blind worship of trump drove most of the voices of reason away   I won't be surprised to see many of them trying to claim the never supported trump in the next couple of weeks   The great negotiator has made a bigger mess of things than if they just left it alone   And that was a huge mess already
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JR has come out strongly against TRyanCare. Once the lightbulb goes on that it is Trump's baby too, he may need a lifeline from his own site.

He'll get no lifeline from me.

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White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says

Well, that's cutting off their nose to spite their face.  When all is said and done, Trump needs Ryan a lot more than Ryan needs Trump.

To make an enemy of him is worse than stupid. 

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Behind the scenes, the president’s aides are planning to blame Ryan if there is an embarrassing defeat on a bill that has been a Republican goal for more than seven years, a senior administration official said.
This was not a seven year goal to replace Obamacare for the GOP.  It was a 7 yr goal to kill Obamacare.  The replacement idea was as recent as Ryan's ascension to be Speaker.
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Paul Ryan is where winning goes to die!

ALL they had to do was what they have done MANY (I forget exactly how many) times previously (when they knew that there was no chance or it passing) and simply repeal Obamacare!
Yep, it was 7 years we waited to kill Obamacare, not replace it.  Ryan is to blame for the debacle we are in now.
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Re: White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 05:33:20 pm »
This was not a seven year goal to replace Obamacare for the GOP.  It was a 7 yr goal to kill Obamacare.  The replacement idea was as recent as Ryan's ascension to be Speaker.

As a matter of political reality it was always going to be "replacement."  The Democrats were always going to win on an the issue of "helping the uninsured," and that wouldn't change just because Republicans have the necessary majorities.

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Re: White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 05:35:46 pm »
As a matter of political reality it was always going to be "replacement."  The Democrats were always going to win on an the issue of "helping the uninsured," and that wouldn't change just because Republicans have the necessary majorities.

Obviously.

Yet not so obvious to some, I guess.
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Re: White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2017, 06:38:01 pm »
Paul Ryan is where winning goes to die!

ALL they had to do was what they have done MANY (I forget exactly how many) times previously (when they knew that there was no chance or it passing) and simply repeal Obamacare!

"Simply Repeal Obamacare"?    Where logic goes to die!    And Nancy Pelosi once again becomes Speaker of the House in 2018. There is nothing simple about it.   
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Re: White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2017, 06:39:36 pm »
"Simply Repeal Obamacare"?    Where logic goes to die!    And Nancy Pelosi once again becomes Speaker of the House in 2018. There is nothing simple about it.   

So you say!  I strongly disagree!
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Re: White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2017, 06:48:28 pm »
Princess Trump doesn't do responsibility.

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Re: White House Preparing to Blame Ryan If Health Bill Fails, Official Says
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2017, 07:08:27 pm »
This was not a seven year goal to replace Obamacare for the GOP.  It was a 7 yr goal to kill Obamacare.  The replacement idea was as recent as Ryan's ascension to be Speaker.

Yeah, I saw the way Bloomberg spun it.