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Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« on: March 15, 2017, 09:56:47 pm »
Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump

 By Jessie Hellmann - 03/15/17 11:49 AM EDT


House GOP leadership's ObamaCare repeal plan was written with President Trump, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday.

House conservatives are pushing Trump for changes to the plan, but Ryan said they shouldn't expect anything major.

"Obviously, the major components are staying intact because this is something we wrote with President Trump," Ryan told Fox Business.

Conservatives take issue with the plan's refundable tax credits, which they call "new entitlements," and argue the entire original healthcare law should be repealed.
The GOP plan also keeps a number of ObamaCare's provisions, including one that requires insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions and cover 10 essential health benefits, such as prescription drugs and preventive services.

Conservatives also want to see the Medicaid expansion rolled back sooner than what the current plan lays out.

Members of the House Freedom Caucus have been in discussions with Trump about possible changes, but have not offered specifics.

"The administration has been engaged and working around the clock to bring all sides together," caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) told The Hill this week.

“I am optimistic that if leadership of the House and Senate is willing to engage in good-faith negotiations, we will find a solution that truly brings down health insurance premiums and addresses the pre-existing conditions in a very effective manner.”

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday the administration is working with Ryan on a manager's amendment to make changes to the legislation.


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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/324077-ryan-the-gop-health-plan-was-written-with-trump
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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2017, 09:59:55 pm »
Well yeah.

Trump has threatened to primary those who vote against it..........but its all somebody else's fault.

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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2017, 10:04:55 pm »
   Seems Ryan is trying to push some of the responsibility of this clusterfk over to the White House.

   Good Luck with that.


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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 10:06:22 pm »
Just repeal the damn thing.
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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 10:15:42 pm »
Just repeal the damn thing.

   AND introduce real TORT REFORM Legislation, now

   A bunch of lawyers unfavorably legislating a bunch of lawyers.....pipe dream I know
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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2017, 10:59:38 pm »
Is the White House Trying to Sabotage Paul Ryan?

The Breitbart wing of the Republican Party is out for blood.

by Tina Nguyen,
March 14, 2017 11:39 am


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Meanwhile, another sort of backlash has been brewing among the Bannonites on the party’s right-nationalist flank. “Obamacare 2.0 is all but guaranteed to impose crushing costs on voters, hurt Trump’s base, and and hand power back to Democrats” blared one headline last week on Breitbart, the alt-right organ formerly run by Steve Bannon. On Monday, in the wake of the C.B.O. report, the the front page was more blunt: “Under Ryan plan, 14 million to lose insurance by 2018... ... 24 million by 2016.” Underneath was a photo of Ryan, holding up a copy of the American Health Care Act.

Speculation that Trump’s chief strategist might have nodded at Breitbart’s effort to drive a wedge between the president and House Speaker deepened on Monday night, when the conservative outlet published an audio recording from October of Ryan vowing that he was “not going to defend Donald Trump—not now, not in the future.” According to Axios’ Mike Allen, the embarrassing clip had been jealously guarded by Ryan’s opponents waiting for a “time of maximum vulnerability” to drop it. That same night, the White House’s own analysis of Ryan’s health-care plan leaked to Politico, revealing that the of Management and Budget predicted an even more dire outcome than the C.B.O. (The White House countered that the document was only a preliminary estimate of the C.B.O.’s ultimate findings and was not a formal report.)

It’s impossible to tell whether Trump or Bannon are setting Ryan up to fail or merely making missteps of their own. Bannon, who once vowed to destroy Paul Ryan’s career, has helped take the lead negotiating with the House Freedom Caucus, offering concessions to the far-right group—like speeding up the end of the Medicaid expansion—that could serve as a poison pill in the Senate. If so, it’s not clear where Trump’s own head is at. On Monday, he warned Republicans that should Ryan’s bill not pass, the only alternative would be to let Obamacare stand and collapse on its own. “It’s a disaster, and people understand that. It’s failed, and it’s imploding. And if we let it go for another year, it’ll totally implode. In fact, I’ve told the Republicans, ‘Why don’t you just let it go for another year?’ That way everybody will really understand how bad it is.”

It’s possible that option would give Trump more room to maneuver, and to deliver for his base. “Trump throws Ryan under the bus. Negotiates a deal and they pass it,” one Republican lobbyist speculated to Mike Allen, attempting some game theory. Another offered a contrasting take: “More likely Trump gets Ryan to make changes but has to campaign to help get the votes in the House.” Either way, it seems the deepening G.O.P. civil war is giving the White House more negotiating power, not less. If the Breitbart wing of the party is able to bring down Ryan in the process, eliminating a major ideological obstacle to Bannon’s nationalist-populist vision, all the better.


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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 01:43:17 am »
Just repeal the damn thing.

And that is what people will be demanding from the next President to repeal the Trump/Ryan Plan - unless it is drastically improved over what we have now. Repeal without a well-thought out replacement is political suicide.
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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2017, 01:46:09 am »
And that is what people will be demanding from the next President to repeal the Trump/Ryan Plan - unless it is drastically improved over what we have now. Repeal without a well-thought out replacement is political suicide.

The replacement is what we had before Obamacare with a healthy dose of Tort reform tossed in for good measure.
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Re: Ryan: GOP healthcare plan was written with Trump
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2017, 02:13:31 am »
And that is what people will be demanding from the next President to repeal the Trump/Ryan Plan - unless it is drastically improved over what we have now. Repeal without a well-thought out replacement is political suicide.

A lot of people lost their private or employer provided insurance and were forced into medicare medicaid. Cutting those people off at the knees is most definitely political suicide.

One thing I'd like is to be able to build my coverage to my needs. 3 trips to the dentist haven't costed me a dime for an assessment, 2 extractions, and 2 replaced fillings. I need more fillings replaced but I'm at a dead stop because I need a $600 cleaning job before she'll do them and that just happens to be what my insurance won't pay for. Fortunately says she can get me an appointment at the dental school in Lansing and it will only cost me about $30 but it will be a long uncomfortable day.