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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #375 on: March 17, 2017, 05:53:46 pm »
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Temper, temper....

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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #376 on: March 17, 2017, 05:55:23 pm »
You wear clothes in bed? How very outre.  :tongue2:
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #377 on: March 17, 2017, 05:57:36 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 17, 2017, 05:55:23 pm
You wear clothes in bed? How very outre.  :tongue2:

Yeah but the missus makes me take my boots off...they tend to rip the sheets.  :laugh:
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #378 on: March 17, 2017, 06:00:13 pm »
 **nononono* I keep telling you. It's heels for ON the bed, flats for IN the bed.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #379 on: March 17, 2017, 06:02:52 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 17, 2017, 06:00:13 pm
**nononono* I keep telling you. It's heels for ON the bed, flats for IN the bed.

*writing it down*


I always get the in and on mixed up.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #380 on: March 17, 2017, 06:06:21 pm »
Quote from: r9etb on March 17, 2017, 04:23:04 pm
How so?

The use of the word proper. I object.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #381 on: March 17, 2017, 06:12:31 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 17, 2017, 05:50:55 pm

Interpreting the Constitution is inevitable IMO. We have originalists who like to go into the Madison papers and such. The living breathing document I agree with you about. The constitution can become so living and breathing that it's more like a rotting jellyfish being kicked down a beach, amounting to nothing substantial.


We can argue until the cows come home. We need better justices appointed and IMO we may need some amendment against judicial overreach. But such things can backfire too. We need to be careful, if we do end up getting full amendment power. Such things are not to be undertaken lightly.

Absolutely it is!  But not by the courts alone!  The founders created three separate and distinct branches of or government and each is equal in power.  None of them can run ruff shod over any of the others and every member of ALL three are required by the constitution itself to swear an oath of allegiance to the constitution in the performance of their duties! No congressman or senator should EVER vote for anything that he personally thinks to be outside the bounds of the constitution and neither should the president ever sign anything of that nature!  The courts should render their verdicts based on the facts and the law only within the bounds placed on them by the constitution and "such regulation as the congress shall make!" 

That's it! The end! There is no more to it!
 
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #382 on: March 17, 2017, 06:22:21 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 17, 2017, 06:12:31 pm
Absolutely it is!  But not by the courts alone!  The founders created three separate and distinct branches of or government and each is equal in power.  None of them can run ruff shod over any of the others and every member of ALL three are required by the constitution itself to swear an oath of allegiance to the constitution in the performance of their duties! No congressman or senator should EVER vote for anything that he personally thinks to be outside the bounds of the constitution and neither should the president ever sign anything of that nature!  The courts should render their verdicts based on the fact sand the law only within the bounds placed on them by the constitution and "such regulation as the congress shall make!" 

That's it! The end! There is no more to it!

None of that matters anymore today.  The Big Lie has won, and just as the majority of this people now think this country is a pure democracy and that there is this mythical separation of church and state as stated in the First Amendment, the nation believes that the courts are the final arbiters of deciding what is, and is not "legal" and "Constitutional".

This people want to be Soviet, and there is no stopping what they want unless we want to come to bloodshed.

That is the historical nature of all Republics and the history of man and human nature. 

Like Ancient Israel, this people do not want liberty - they want license and provision sans any responsibility.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #383 on: March 17, 2017, 06:25:22 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 17, 2017, 06:22:21 pm
None of that matters anymore today.  The Big Lie has won, and just as the majority of this people now think this country is a pure democracy and that there is this mythical separation of church and state as stated in the First Amendment, the nation believes that the courts are the final arbiters of deciding what is, and is not "legal" and "Constitutional".

This people want to be Soviet, and there is no stopping what they want unless we want to come to bloodshed.

That is the historical nature of all Republics and the history of man and human nature. 

Like Ancient Israel, this people do not want liberty - they want license and provision sans any responsibility.

Yes, that's sort of what I said: the contract has been broken.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #384 on: March 17, 2017, 06:28:31 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 17, 2017, 06:25:22 pm
Yes, that's sort of what I said: the contract has been broken.

Yup, and it was "The People" who broke it.  We've always known we can survive the crooked politicians, it's the crooked electorate that will do us in.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #385 on: March 17, 2017, 06:33:57 pm »
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"they want license and provision sans any responsibility"

And they will only stop at nothing(ness).
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #386 on: March 17, 2017, 06:38:09 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 17, 2017, 06:22:21 pm
None of that matters anymore today.  The Big Lie has won, and just as the majority of this people now think this country is a pure democracy and that there is this mythical separation of church and state as stated in the First Amendment, the nation believes that the courts are the final arbiters of deciding what is, and is not "legal" and "Constitutional".

This people want to be Soviet, and there is no stopping what they want unless we want to come to bloodshed.

That is the historical nature of all Republics and the history of man and human nature. 

Like Ancient Israel, this people do not want liberty - they want license and provision sans any responsibility.

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You may well be right my friend but I know the TRUTH and for as long as I am able will continue my fight for it!  YOU and others can choose to join me or not!  It makes little difference as to the path I will follow.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #387 on: March 17, 2017, 06:55:51 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 17, 2017, 06:28:31 pm
Yup, and it was "The People" who broke it.  We've always known we can survive the crooked politicians, it's the crooked electorate that will do us in.

I'd argue that it was the courts and legislators who broke it.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #388 on: March 17, 2017, 06:56:44 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 17, 2017, 06:38:09 pm
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You may well be right my friend but I know the TRUTH and for as long as I am able will continue my fight for it!  YOU and others can choose to join me or not!  It makes little difference as to the path I will follow.

You know where I stand, Bigun.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #389 on: March 17, 2017, 06:58:30 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 17, 2017, 06:56:44 pm
You know where I stand, Bigun.

Indeed I do!   :patriot:
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #390 on: March 17, 2017, 07:02:18 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 17, 2017, 06:38:09 pm
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You may well be right my friend but I know the TRUTH and for as long as I am able will continue my fight for it!  YOU and others can choose to join me or not!  It makes little difference as to the path I will follow.

Do I have to stand up, my brother? Or can I have your six while sitting. Either way, you know I'm in.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #391 on: March 17, 2017, 07:10:23 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 17, 2017, 06:55:51 pm
I'd argue that it was the courts and legislators who broke it.

I was the courts with the willing assent of the congress.

Read what James Madison wrote in Federalist 47 a portion of which I quote below:

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HAVING reviewed the general form of the proposed government and the general mass of power allotted to it, I proceed to examine the particular structure of this government, and the distribution of this mass of power among its constituent parts.

One of the principal objections inculcated by the more respectable adversaries to the Constitution, is its supposed violation of the political maxim, that the legislative, executive, and judiciary departments ought to be separate and distinct. In the structure of the federal government, no regard, it is said, seems to have been paid to this essential precaution in favor of liberty. The several departments of power are distributed and blended in such a manner as at once to destroy all symmetry and beauty of form, and to expose some of the essential parts of the edifice to the danger of being crushed by the disproportionate weight of other parts.

No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty, than that on which the objection is founded. The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. Were the federal Constitution, therefore, really chargeable with the accumulation of power, or with a mixture of powers, having a dangerous tendency to such an accumulation, no further arguments would be necessary to inspire a universal reprobation of the system. I persuade myself, however, that it will be made apparent to every one, that the charge cannot be supported, and that the maxim on which it relies has been totally misconceived and misapplied. In order to form correct ideas on this important subject, it will be proper to investigate the sense in which the preservation of liberty requires that the three great departments of power should be separate and distinct...

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http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa47.htm

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What do you think he meant by that?
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #392 on: March 17, 2017, 07:11:51 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 17, 2017, 06:38:09 pm
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You may well be right my friend but I know the TRUTH and for as long as I am able will continue my fight for it!  YOU and others can choose to join me or not!  It makes little difference as to the path I will follow.

Since you pinged me, I guess you're asking.  Of course you know where I stand, Bigun.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #393 on: March 17, 2017, 07:12:09 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 17, 2017, 07:02:18 pm
Do I have to stand up, my brother? Or can I have your six while sitting. Either way, you know I'm in.

Either way is fine with me my brother! Can't think of anyone I would rather have on my 6!  888high58888  :beer:
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #394 on: March 17, 2017, 07:12:31 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 17, 2017, 06:56:44 pm
You know where I stand, Bigun.
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #395 on: March 17, 2017, 07:13:07 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 17, 2017, 07:11:51 pm
Since you pinged me, I guess you're asking.  Of course you know where I stand, Bigun.

Yes I do! And I'm proud to have you along!  :patriot:  :beer:
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #396 on: March 17, 2017, 07:14:10 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on March 17, 2017, 07:12:31 pm
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #397 on: March 17, 2017, 07:18:55 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 17, 2017, 07:10:23 pm
I was the courts with the willing assent of the congress.

Read what James Madison wrote in Federalist 47 a portion of which I quote below:

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa47.htm

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What do you think he meant by that?

We are screwed.

While you people are up standing can someone make me a sammich?
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #398 on: March 17, 2017, 07:19:35 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on March 17, 2017, 07:18:55 pm
We are screwed.

While you people are up standing can someone make me a sammich?
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Re: Larry Kudlow: The government needs to pay 50% of healthcare costs
« Reply #399 on: March 17, 2017, 07:22:06 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on March 17, 2017, 07:18:55 pm
We are screwed.

While you people are up standing can someone make me a sammich?

I got your sammich Fred!   22222frying pan
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien
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