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Re: Scientists grow potato under Mars-like conditions in Peru
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2017, 11:51:50 pm »
A big question in my mind is whether the martian regolith simulant has the required amount of perclorates in it.  These chemicals are ubiquitous on Mars, and are very toxic:

http://www.space.com/21554-mars-toxic-perchlorate-chemicals.html
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242525435_Perchlorate_on_Mars_A_chemical_hazard_and_a_resource_for_humans
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Re: Scientists grow potato under Mars-like conditions in Peru
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2017, 01:32:55 am »
A big question in my mind is whether the martian regolith simulant has the required amount of perclorates in it.  These chemicals are ubiquitous on Mars, and are very toxic:

http://www.space.com/21554-mars-toxic-perchlorate-chemicals.html
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242525435_Perchlorate_on_Mars_A_chemical_hazard_and_a_resource_for_humans
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https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/4xv2bw/do_martian_regolith_simulants_contain_perchlorates/

I don't know that perchlorate would be that toxic to the plants, but rather the resulting plants might be toxic for consumption via bioaccumulation.  Indeed, phytoremediation might be one solution to the perchlorate problem on Mars.
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Re: Scientists grow potato under Mars-like conditions in Peru
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2017, 10:01:57 am »
I don't know that perchlorate would be that toxic to the plants, but rather the resulting plants might be toxic for consumption via bioaccumulation.  Indeed, phytoremediation might be one solution to the perchlorate problem on Mars.

I don't know either, but any tests of growing plants in Martian regolith simulant are irremediably flawed if the simulant doesn't have the required amounts of perclorates in them.
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Re: Scientists grow potato under Mars-like conditions in Peru
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2017, 04:22:38 pm »
@Smokin Joe

You could be onto something there. Political officers make fine fertilizer,and by killing one and using him or her to grow edible food,it must might make one useful.


I'll take your word for that. I can't even grow weeds.
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Re: Scientists grow potato under Mars-like conditions in Peru
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2017, 11:35:38 pm »
There's an Issac Asimov story that uses that as a plot point. In this case the crewmen died due to an excess of ammonia while trying to get plants to grow in a hostile world. I think it was "Founding Fathers".

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