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sneakypete:

--- Quote from: Hondo69 on March 22, 2017, 02:36:08 pm ---@Hondo69


--- Quote ---Shows like Frontline can have value in that they pull out a magnifying glass to examine events we have all experienced.  An episode about Enron, for example, might detail how the State of California was desperate to buy electricity on the open market.  And they might also detail how California felt they were being overcharged for what was the "going rate" on the open market.  But they fall short in that they will skip over the reason why California was forced to go outside the state and buy their electricity in the first place.  It is the equivalent of telling a joke but omitting the punch line.

In short, they may do a good job on the Who, What, When and Where, but leave the Why out of the picture completely.  I find this troubling.
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That is sometimes true,and sometimes it isn't. Frontline doesn't have a "tame" cast of characters. Different producers,different reporters,different POV's with each program. From a political POV mindset,it's pretty hit and miss. One time you might be throwing stuff at the tv while foaming at the mouth,and the next show might have you applauding. The one thing EVERY Frontline broadcast I have ever watched shares is they show all sides of an argument,even if the producers of that segment seem to be biased to one side. They always educate you and they always make you think. Which are good things. Even when it is the "enemy" POV being promoted. After all,there is much to be said in favor of the enemy telling us what they are thinking and doing.


--- Quote ---On one hand, these types of shows are doing the job journalists are supposed to be doing anyway, but they don't anymore.  So you could say they are filling in an information gap, territory abandoned by traditional journalism.  Their magnifying glass would never be needed if we had true widespread journalism in this country.

AMEN,brother,AMEN!  The sad,sad truth is that if it weren't for public tv,there would never be any balance broadcast,and definitely nothing that was contrary to the message the mainstream media broadcasts. The truth no longer sells.
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--- Quote ---If they are going to go through all the trouble of presenting an "in depth look" at a subject they should use their magnifying glass to the full extent.  But they don't.
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They don't have the time. Most of their broadcasts are 1 hour shows. Sometimes 2 hours,but that's about it.


--- Quote ---On the other hand it irks me that that do not connect all the dots.
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Not me. I want to connect my own damn dots,thank you very much! I just want someone to point out where the water is occasionally. I'll do my own drinking. Besides,as I wrote above,they only have 1 or 2 hour shows. IMNSHO,better to tell us where the dots are and let us connect them ourselves than to leave any unidentified.


--- Quote ---It's one thing to point out that Palin had the power elites of both parties terrified.  Doing so inches a step closer to the truth.  But why were the elites terrified?

I know why they were terrified, the producers at Frontline know why they were terrified, but I'll bet good money they magically omitted that tasty little morsel from their piece.  And I haven't even seen the show.  Yet I'm willing to put my own money on the line that they stopped short of connecting the dots.
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Only a moron would fail to connect those obvious dots,and who the hell cares if a moron is informed or not? After all,they are morons.

And one of the basic truths of reality is people that connect the dots themselves are more prone to take it seriously than people that don't think and just have it all handed to them.

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truth_seeker:
Saw a Youtube channel with several Frantline episodes, for us cable cutters

sneakypete:

--- Quote from: truth_seeker on March 22, 2017, 06:10:14 pm ---Saw a Youtube channel with several Frantline episodes, for us cable cutters

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@truth_seeker

You don't even need a internet connection. Just a high-definition tv antenna. I bought a RCA HD antenna a couple of years ago,and pull in between 39 and 43 channels,depending on how it is pointed. 6 of them are PBS stations,and the closest broadcast tower is 55 miles away for any station I get.

Antenna cost me 43 bucks on Amazon,but it's up to around 60 bucks now. Made in America,too!

truth_seeker:

--- Quote from: sneakypete on March 22, 2017, 10:59:50 pm ---@truth_seeker

You don't even need a internet connection. Just a high-definition tv antenna. I bought a RCA HD antenna a couple of years ago,and pull in between 39 and 43 channels,depending on how it is pointed. 6 of them are PBS stations,and the closest broadcast tower is 55 miles away for any station I get.

Antenna cost me 43 bucks on Amazon,but it's up to around 60 bucks now. Made in America,too!

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Yes I know. I live in the Lost Angeles metro and we have far too many channels.  Just got my antenna sort of finalized for now, with many PBS channels.

Before the antenna got dialed in, I used YouTube for documentaries, and Frontline has a channel there, too

BTW some websites offer the antenna I got for around $70, but mine came from Fry's electronics for about $16. Played with it inside the garage up high, with poor results. Put it  higher outside on the chimney and it works great.

Gotta hand it to my two brothers-in-law for helping. One used to install for cable companies.



Hondo69:

--- Quote from: sneakypete on March 22, 2017, 05:46:19 pm ---That is sometimes true,and sometimes it isn't. Frontline doesn't have a "tame" cast of characters. Different producers,different reporters,different POV's with each program. From a political POV mindset,it's pretty hit and miss. One time you might be throwing stuff at the tv while foaming at the mouth,and the next show might have you applauding. The one thing EVERY Frontline broadcast I have ever watched shares is they show all sides of an argument,even if the producers of that segment seem to be biased to one side. They always educate you and they always make you think. Which are good things. Even when it is the "enemy" POV being promoted. After all,there is much to be said in favor of the enemy telling us what they are thinking and doing.

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I did not realize different groups produce each segment.  All these years I assumed a single entity was behind the production.  Thanks for pointing that out because it is a game changer in my opinion.  Funny how one little nugget of information can throw a whole new light on things.

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