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SOURCE: THE HILL

URL: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/322615-dhs-head-trump-has-convincing-wiretap-proof

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Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly says President Trump possesses credible evidence that former President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower in New York City last year.

Trump claimed on Twitter last Saturday that Obama had his “wires tapped” in Trump Tower before Election Day last year, making the accusation without offering any evidence.

“If the president of the United States said that, he’s got his reasons to say it,” Kelly said Monday on CNN’s “The Situation Room." "[Trump’s] got some convincing evidence that that took place.”

Kelly admitted he had learned about Trump’s claims from watching CNN, adding he would not guess why the Obama administration might have wiretapped a 2016 presidential candidate.

“I don’t know anything about it other when I was sitting off-studio here watching CNN,” he told host Wolf Blitzer.
“I don’t pretend to even guess what the motivation may have been for the previous administration to do something like that,” the retired Marine Corps general added.

“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory,” Trump tweeted. "Nothing foundf. This is McCarthyism!”

“How low has President Obama gone to tap [sic] my phones during the very sacred election process,” Trump added in a follow-up tweet. "This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!”

Kevin Lewis, a spokesman for Obama, said last Saturday that Trump’s claims about the former president are “simply false.”

“A cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice,” he said in a statement.

"As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen.”

White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Sunday an investigation of Trump’s wiretapping claims should be included in any probe of ties between the president’s 2016 bid and Russia.

FBI director James Comey asked the Department of Justice to disavow Trump's claims that Obama ordered a wiretap, according to a New York Times report.

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 04:22:11 am »
They need to release the FISA court requests and any evidence that they have minus sources and methods. 

There are too many conspiracy theories going around about this matter.
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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 06:54:48 am »
“If the president of the United States said that, he’s got his reasons to say it,” Kelly said Monday on CNN’s “The Situation Room." "[Trump’s] got some convincing evidence that that took place.”

Is that the evidence that if Trump said it he had a reason?
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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 07:26:59 am »
“If the president of the United States said that, he’s got his reasons to say it,” Kelly said Monday on CNN’s “The Situation Room." "[Trump’s] got some convincing evidence that that took place.”

Is that the evidence that if Trump said it he had a reason?

I'm hardly surprised YOU are not convinced.  You probably refuse to believe President Trump has the best words.  Believe me.  He does.

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 08:37:42 am »
I'm hardly surprised YOU are not convinced.  You probably refuse to believe President Trump has the best words.  Believe me.  He does.

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Please expand on that.  How do we make America again?  Ultimate Trump makeover?  Let me try that again.  Make America again.  Wow is this the new jingle?
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2017, 10:24:57 am »
I await the President's new evidence with baited breathe. Remember in 2012 he had incontrovertible proof that Obama's BC was fake?

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2017, 02:27:33 pm »
I await the President's new evidence with baited breathe. Remember in 2012 he had incontrovertible proof that Obama's BC was fake?

Not to mention the incontrovertible truth that Ted Cruz' dad was involved with Lee Harvey Oswald. We're six weeks into the Trump Administration, and it feels like six years.

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2017, 02:31:18 pm »
I await the President's new evidence with baited breathe. Remember in 2012 he had incontrovertible proof that Obama's BC was fake?

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2017, 06:48:46 pm »
“If the president of the United States said that, he’s got his reasons to say it,” Kelly said Monday on CNN’s “The Situation Room." "[Trump’s] got some convincing evidence that that took place.”

Is that the evidence that if Trump said it he had a reason?

I'd like to think that if President Trump makes such a bold pronouncement, he'd had something to backing up.
Then I remember the primaries, even in the days after the nomination, where he came out with the JFK thing, once again.

Even if this pans out, I think the damage to his credibility will have taken place.
Remember, he didn't say the "government" wire-tapped Trump Tower, he said "Obama" wire-tapped it.

It's going to be awfully difficult to prove it came from the top.
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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2017, 07:05:04 pm »
Remember, he didn't say the "government" wire-tapped Trump Tower, he said "Obama" wire-tapped it.

It's going to be awfully difficult to prove it came from the top.

He could be right on the substance but wrong on the details. Remember this statement as an example: "You look at what's happening last night in Sweden."

Well, nothing happened the night before, but that doesn't mean that immigration problems have not been occurring and continue to occur in Sweden.


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NSA Whistleblower Backs Trump Up on Wiretap Claims
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2017, 09:28:19 pm »


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President Donald Trump is "absolutely right" to claim he was wiretapped and monitored, a former NSA official claimed Monday, adding that the administration risks falling victim to further leaks if it continues to run afoul of the intelligence community.

"I think the president is absolutely right. His phone calls, everything he did electronically, was being monitored," Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran of the National Security Agency who resigned in protest from the organization in 2001, told Fox Business on Monday. Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-07/nsa-whistleblower-bill-binney-says-trump-is-absolutely-right-about-wiretap-claims
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Re: NSA Whistleblower Backs Trump Up on Wiretap Claims
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2017, 10:26:26 pm »
I don't doubt some level of surveillance was conducted on Trump at least 18 months prior to the election.  Who ordered it is the question.  Proving that the gutless wonder and muslim leghumper Obama was behind it will be problematic.

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2017, 10:38:11 pm »
He could be right on the substance but wrong on the details. Remember this statement as an example: "You look at what's happening last night in Sweden."

Well, nothing happened the night before, but that doesn't mean that immigration problems have not been occurring and continue to occur in Sweden.

Fake but accurate.

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2017, 10:53:52 pm »
Fake but accurate.

Alt facts are apparently fungible.  :silly:


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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2017, 10:57:26 pm »
Alt facts are apparently fungible.  :silly:




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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2017, 11:05:47 pm »
I await the President's new evidence with baited breathe. Remember in 2012 he had incontrovertible proof that Obama's BC was fake?


Res ipsa loquitur.


So yeah.   
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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2017, 11:07:19 pm »

Remember, he didn't say the "government" wire-tapped Trump Tower, he said "Obama" wire-tapped it.



And from 2009-2017,  you think there is a difference?   


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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2017, 06:53:33 pm »

And from 2009-2017,  you think there is a difference?

....and the last line of my post where this came from says:

"It's going to be awfully difficult to prove it came from the top".

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Re: DHS head John Kelly: Trump has ‘convincing’ wiretap proof
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2017, 07:19:30 pm »
....and the last line of my post where this came from says:

"It's going to be awfully difficult to prove it came from the top".

It very well may be proven to have come from Bammy ... chances of being able to hold him accountable and responsible are slim to none.
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