Author Topic: Trump administration deals a big setback to Caltrain, pretty much killed hopes for high-speed rail coming to San Francisco  (Read 2880 times)

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Offline IsailedawayfromFR

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If CA wants to wear NIMBY "T' Shirts, let them take the consequences too.
They already do in Kern County, the top producing county in the US
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You have to feel for California, paying more into the system than they get back, then having this cut while they have to pay for all the poorer "conservative" states that get grants.

F#ck California and everyone in it. I don't take their money and I want nothing to do with it. I even refuse to buy my phones from that degenerate shithole. I buy Korean.


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There is no justification for any intrastate project to be funded by the other 49 states.

Agreed....they want it, they can pay for it. Waste of tax payers money to make their train system "green".

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Only because they import vast amounts of power from other states.  California is incapable of meeting their own demand without imports.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,252076.html



And they're taking Diablo Canyon offline in less than 10 years without any replacement.

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Actually, you are wrong.  The rolling blackouts of recent California history were a result of market manipulation by the late unlamented Enron, not an inherent problem with generating capacity or the grid.
@The_Reader_David for those of us that are ignorant of the situation, could you explain that. And is it the same issue that arizona was having around the same time?
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@The_Reader_David for those of us that are ignorant of the situation, could you explain that. And is it the same issue that arizona was having around the same time?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/04/us/tapes-show-enron-arranged-plant-shutdown.html?_r=0

Enron made a bad situation worse.  But California was already too tight in available capacity.  If they had been more like Texas in generating capacity as they started the deregulation, the market would have been too large is spare capacity to effectively manipulate.

Enron was at fault.  Enron made it worse.  But California regulations and limitations set up their initial plan for deregulation to fail.  A lot of additional capacity got built following that time, mostly Nat Gas peaker units to handle upset conditions.  I was doing NatGas pipeline work in the area at that time to help serve the fast growing demand by those peaker units.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/04/us/tapes-show-enron-arranged-plant-shutdown.html?_r=0

Enron made a bad situation worse.  But California was already too tight in available capacity.  If they had been more like Texas in generating capacity as they started the deregulation, the market would have been too large is spare capacity to effectively manipulate.

Enron was at fault.  Enron made it worse.  But California regulations and limitations set up their initial plan for deregulation to fail.  A lot of additional capacity got built following that time, mostly Nat Gas peaker units to handle upset conditions.  I was doing NatGas pipeline work in the area at that time to help serve the fast growing demand by those peaker units.
@thackney Thank you
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$647 million for 60,000 daily riders.  That comes to $10,783 per rider.  Why doesn't California simply implement a $14.37 fare increase per ride over the next three years.  Then they will have their $647 million.

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