Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

[Silver Pines]

Bill Kristol‏Verified account @BillKristol  2h2 hours ago

 A high % of Trump's most imprudent tweet storms come on Saturday, when staff not around as much and Jared & Ivanka observing Shabbat.

[LonestarDream]

This is a serious accusation he better have proof!

THe NSA collects it ALL.  Obama would automatically have it all from the Trump tower.  Physical 'bugs' are not needed.

And Obama distributed NSA collections to a wide agency audience before he left office....

Trump is right here, automatically.  It is only a question of who could see the intelligence on Trump by FISA and otherwise.  Recall, Schumer KNEW that Trump was being spied on....

The media and other known enemies of Trump are not be trusted here.

@TomSea
@don-o

[Mesaclone]

@mystery-ak

 "In January, American law enforcement and intelligence agencies examined intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of Trump, according to the Times.  The FBI led the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, and the Treasury Department's financial crimes unit."
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That is what I posted above that likely happened, that phone calls to/from the Russian Ambassador were intercepted and that included those going to and from Trump tower.  If Trump people, including his son-in-law, were taking calls and making calls to the Ambassador, they were caught in this investigation.

Well, there's your proof...even if there's no more. I have little doubt that it went well beyond just tapping the Ambassador...and if there is proof that Obama tapped anyone in the Trump campaign that is simply huge. A true threat to our democracy, and Trump SHOULD be shouting it from the rooftops. Its pathetic to read anti-Trump commentary over this issue....almost as a reflex. Rational criticism is one thing...reflexive and unsupported attacks on the president on such an is just another manifestation of the irrational nature of the still lingering NeverTrump idiocy.

[LonestarDream]

Nope .  The NSA collects it all.  FISA is only the gate that allows access to what is already collected.

@Norm Lenhart

The spying would require the approval of the FISA court. That revelation brought the idiots running with the claim that the FISA court allowed the wiretapping of MLK who died long before the formation of the FISA court.

[XenaLee]

Oh look.  Another ""investigation"" the US taxpayers will get to pay for as a parting gift from that ahole Obama.  Swell.  And yet another "first" that the clean, articulate black Marxist has set for decades to come.

[LonestarDream]

Norm is so right. The FISA court has absolute power and it has corrupted absolutely.

Great research myst!! Impressive!

excerpts:


more
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281150/Trump-accuses-Barack-Obama-wire-tapping-phones.html

[XenaLee]

Far fetched to who? I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept that someone this stupid is employed somewhere outside a supervised group work/rehab facility for the mentally damaged. Just how freaking stupid does one have to be to think a secret court with nearly unlimited power would NOT be used against political enemies by a tyrannical government? Far fetched? Really? Stevie Wonder would have to shield his eyes from the light of this one for cryin' out loud.

Right.  We already know damned well that the Obama administration had no qualms whatsoever re: using their agencies against anyone on the right via the IRS, EPA, etc.  This is just one more example of that abuse of power.

[LonestarDream]

Right.  We already know damned well that the Obama administration had no qualms whatsoever re: using their agencies against anyone on the right via the IRS, EPA, etc.  This is just one more example of that abuse of power.

Preach it.

DRAIN THE SWAMP

[LonestarDream]

excerpt

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/trump-goes-nuclear-with-claim-obama-wiretapped-him-during-election.php

From your story, Myst:

This is astonishing to me, as I have never heard a word about this story. If the Obama administration abused the FISA process to wiretap a political opponent, it is a scandal of the first order–the worst political scandal of my lifetime, easily. And the press has known about it and covered it up? Unbelievable.


VERY BELIEVABLE

[XenaLee]

@mystery-ak

 "In January, American law enforcement and intelligence agencies examined intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of Trump, according to the Times.  The FBI led the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, and the Treasury Department's financial crimes unit."
_________
That is what I posted above that likely happened, that phone calls to/from the Russian Ambassador were intercepted and that included those going to and from Trump tower.  If Trump people, including his son-in-law, were taking calls and making calls to the Ambassador, they were caught in this investigation.

So, while the Trump Tower per se may not have been wire-tapped, communications between certain Trump people that occurred AT the Trump Tower were probably wire-tapped.  It's a matter of semantics.  Trump got it 'partially' right.

[Cripplecreek]

I just found these taped wires.

Its a vast left wing conspiracy I tell ya!!!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So, while the Trump Tower per se may not have been wire-tapped, communications between certain Trump people that occurred AT the Trump Tower were probably wire-tapped.  It's a matter of semantics.  Trump got it 'partially' right.

Idiot boy rump needs to get his shit in order, lay out the evidence and clear accusations of wrongdoing instead of making wild claims on twitter like a moron. And then tweeting about celebrity apprentice a few minutes later.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I just found these taped wires.

Its a vast left wing conspiracy I tell ya!!!

 

[XenaLee]

I just found these taped wires.

Its a vast left wing conspiracy I tell ya!!!

You think you're being funny.  Pssst!

You're not.

[LonestarDream]

So, while the Trump Tower per se may not have been wire-tapped, communications between certain Trump people that occurred AT the Trump Tower were probably wire-tapped.  It's a matter of semantics.  Trump got it 'partially' right.

Right.  Functionally equivalent. 

But the real issue here is High crimes under the color of authority . 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

You think you're being funny.  Pssst!

You're not.

He's funnier than you are.

[XenaLee]

Idiot boy rump needs to get his shit in order, lay out the evidence and clear accusations of wrongdoing instead of making wild claims on twitter like a moron. And then tweeting about celebrity apprentice a few minutes later.

Now, see....WTF.  It's comments like that that render the rest of your comments as less than credible, at best.  I won't even mention what the "at worst" represents.

We all already know Trump's personality quirks.... only too well.  Your bias against him and his quirks just gets tedious.  If you have a point to make against him, make it and let it lie.  It's much more effective that way.  JS....

[XenaLee]

He's funnier than you are.

Not really.

[Silver Pines]

Right.  Functionally equivalent. 

But the real issue here is High crimes under the color of authority .

@LonestarDream

Trump made it a different issue.  If there's something to this, he might have blown it all by tweeting it out with no proof.

[LonestarDream]

Why do you feel the need to twist the discussion into attacks on other forum members? You know, it's ok, and even expected, that not everyone will agree with you 100% of the time. One of the signs of maturity is being able to listen to opposing viewpoints without responding with attacks on the other person.

Gotta to agree with XenaLee here.  It was about as funny as posting a picture of an 8 track tape.

Looks like Trump is about to make the FISA court proceedings public-- because of Obama.

[XenaLee]

Right.  Functionally equivalent. 

But the real issue here is High crimes under the color of authority .

Of course, that is the real issue.  And yet... the Trump haters are, as usual, attempting to turn this around and use it against Trump.  The real threat isn't Trump and his personality quirks (or disorders, as some claim)....but the fact that the Obama regime abused power in such a manner as to rival the Soviet Russian era of tyranny over political opponents.  That America dodged that bullet called Hillary, which would have meant more of the same of these threats, seems to have whooshed right over the Trump-haters heads.

[LonestarDream]

@LonestarDream

Trump made it a different issue.  If there's something to this, he might have blown it all by tweeting it out with no proof.

Not that way at all.  Obama undermined the compartmentalization of NSA collections AND the FISA court.   BIG problems, because we are ALL wiretapped.

[XenaLee]

Why do you feel the need to twist the discussion into attacks on other forum members? You know, it's ok, and even expected, that not everyone will agree with you 100% of the time. One of the signs of maturity is being able to listen to opposing viewpoints without responding with attacks on the other person.

Lol!  It's called a discussion.  Get used to it.

[starstruck]

Trump gives the speech of his life on Tuesday and apparently decides to sabotage it on Saturday. On Wednesday the majority of the people were looking at him as being Presidential and the stock market took off. I predict Monday's market will be a different story.
Does he think this whole thing is a reality show? I'm really starting to question his mental state.

[LonestarDream]

Of course, that is the real issue.  And yet... the Trump haters are, as usual, attempting to turn this around and use it against Trump.  The real threat isn't Trump and his personality quirks (or disorders, as some claim)....but the fact that the Obama regime abused power in such a manner as to rival the Soviet Russian era of tyranny over political opponents.  That America dodged that bullet called Hillary, which would have meant more of the same of these threats, seems to have whooshed right over the Trump-haters heads.

Exactly!!!! Bingo.

Also get tired of having my voting record being misconstrued.

After Walker got out, First I was for Cruz, then I was for Trump/Cruz and now I am for Trump/Pence.


My posting history shows this.   


And Xena, you might think Trump methods are quirky  , but there a 'method to the madness '

ALL of the media will not be able to ignore, dissemble and lie about these events.