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WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« on: February 28, 2017, 04:18:25 pm »
WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
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Posted By: Harry Hibbs
 
The John McCain Russian saga keeps getting more bizarre. Sen. John McCain as a presidential candidate in 2008 directly and illegally propositioned Vitaly Churkin, the Russian ambassador to the United Nations, to donate to the McCain/Sarah Palin GOP ticket, according to documents released by Wikileaks.

This week, WikiLeaks released a 2008 document showing then-presidential candidate McCain asking Russia to give illegal donations to his campaign. Russia responded with the following statement:


http://ufpnews.com/wikileaks-drops-bombshell-mccain/
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 04:24:41 pm »
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"We have received a letter from Senator John McCain requesting financial contribution to his Presidential campaign. In this connection we would like to reiterate that Russian officials, the Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the United Nations or the Russian Government do not finance political activity in foreign countries.”

Well, that's a howler, right there. :silly:

Apparently, Sarah wasn't the only one who could see Russia from their house.

 (I know, that was Tina Fey on SNL, but it's fun to play with anyway.) ****slapping
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 04:28:45 pm »
McCain is running the risk of having his legacy as a POW worthy of America's respect being completely subsumed by his reputation for utter corruption as an elected representative.

He should retire immediately.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 04:33:34 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 28, 2017, 04:28:45 pm
McCain is running the risk of having his legacy as a POW worthy of America's respect being completely subsumed by his reputation for utter corruption as an elected representative.

He should retire immediately.
He's being set up for ejection from the Good Ol' Boys' Club. If he won't play ball, he'll be shot down, politically. It's how they roll in the swamp.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 04:43:32 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 04:33:34 pm
He's being set up for ejection from the Good Ol' Boys' Club. If he won't play ball, he'll be shot down, politically. It's how they roll in the swamp.

Why do they want to eject him?  Seems like he serves their purposes.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2017, 04:49:32 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 04:33:34 pm
He's being set up for ejection from the Good Ol' Boys' Club. If he won't play ball, he'll be shot down, politically. It's how they roll in the swamp.

Maybe, but McCain himself seems to be bringing alot of this on himself.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2017, 04:54:53 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 04:33:34 pm
He's being set up for ejection from the Good Ol' Boys' Club. If he won't play ball, he'll be shot down, politically. It's how they roll in the swamp.

McCain IS the Good Ol' Boys Club.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 04:58:51 pm »
Looks like RINO hunting season is well underway.  I would love to see McCain step down.  He has the perfect out; his age and health.   :seeya:
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 04:59:35 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 28, 2017, 04:28:45 pm
McCain is running the risk of having his legacy as a POW worthy of America's respect being completely subsumed by his reputation for utter corruption as an elected representative.

He should retire immediately.


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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2017, 05:05:25 pm »
Wikileaks is a Russian subsidiary.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2017, 05:06:32 pm »
Not a bombshell. (fake and/or clickbait news?)

Here is a link to the actual letter. (click under File > Download).

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_McCain_fundraising_appeal_letter_to_Russian_Ambassador_Vitaly_Churkin,_Sep_29_2008

It is one of those generic 'dear friend' letter that goes out to everyone on a mailing list.. It isn't a specific request to the ambassador.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2017, 05:14:56 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on February 28, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
Not a bombshell. (fake and/or clickbait news?)

Here is a link to the actual letter. (click under File > Download).

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_McCain_fundraising_appeal_letter_to_Russian_Ambassador_Vitaly_Churkin,_Sep_29_2008

It is one of those generic 'dear friend' letter that goes out to everyone on a mailing list.. It isn't a specific request to the ambassador.

Same old gotcha BS the simple minded rely on year after year after year. They morons accused Ted Cruz of begging for democrat party money last year for exactly the same reason.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2017, 05:15:55 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on February 28, 2017, 05:06:32 pm
Not a bombshell. (fake and/or clickbait news?)

Here is a link to the actual letter. (click under File > Download).

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_McCain_fundraising_appeal_letter_to_Russian_Ambassador_Vitaly_Churkin,_Sep_29_2008

It is one of those generic 'dear friend' letter that goes out to everyone on a mailing list.. It isn't a specific request to the ambassador.

It was a request for donation from the Russian Ambassador, period. In the context of McCains comments concerning Russian influence in our elections it does smack of hypocrisy.
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2017, 05:17:34 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 28, 2017, 05:15:55 pm
It was a request for donation from the Russian Ambassador, period. In the context of McCains comments concerning Russian influence in our elections it does smack of hypocrisy.

Couldn't he have gotten the money from his Arab pals?
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2017, 05:17:45 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on February 28, 2017, 05:14:56 pm
Same old gotcha BS the simple minded rely on year after year after year. They morons accused Ted Cruz of begging for democrat party money last year for exactly the same reason.

I believe UFP has come through here several times with stories debunked as fake.  Most of the stories I see on their site are clickbait at best, fake to misleading at worst (like this one).
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Re: WikiLeaks Drops Bombshell on John McCain, He Solicited Money for His Campaign from Russian Ambassador Who Suddenly Died Monday in NYC
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2017, 05:18:54 pm »
Really, wait for a more mainstream source,

More of those sorry so and sos that drag the names of others through the mud with no backup.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 05:18:57 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 28, 2017, 05:15:55 pm
It was a request for donation from the Russian Ambassador, period. In the context of McCains comments concerning Russian influence in our elections it does smack of hypocrisy.

No it wasn't a 'request for donation from the Russian Ambassador'. That would imply specificity.

This was basically spam or junk mail sent to everyone on a mailing list. I'm sure most here got the same letter.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2017, 05:23:28 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on February 28, 2017, 05:17:45 pm
I believe UFP has come through here several times with stories debunked as fake.  Most of the stories I see on their site are clickbait at best, fake to misleading at worst (like this one).

In 2012 they beat up on Rick Santorum for "Seeking Union money" because union members were getting his robocalls (along with non union members, professionals, homemakers etc)

Its jangling keys to distract the stupid.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2017, 05:24:02 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on February 28, 2017, 05:18:57 pm
No it wasn't a 'request for donation from the Russian Ambassador'. That would imply specificity.

This was basically spam or junk mail sent to everyone on a mailing list. I'm sure most here got the same letter.

I didn't get a letter. Probably because 1) I'm not a Arizonan, and 2) I've never donated to John mcCain.

I think its safe to assume that Mr Churkin isn't an Arizonan either.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2017, 05:25:45 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 28, 2017, 05:24:02 pm
I didn't get a letter. Probably because 1) I'm not a Arizonan, and 2) I've never donated to John mcCain.

I think its safe to assume that Mr Churkin isn't an Arizonan either.

Well we won't be hearing from Mr. Churkin anytime soon, as he passed away last week.
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2017, 05:26:58 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 28, 2017, 05:24:02 pm
I didn't get a letter. Probably because 1) I'm not a Arizonan, and 2) I've never donated to John mcCain.

I think its safe to assume that Mr Churkin isn't an Arizonan either.

And I get 2-3 per week (or more) from candidates, politicians, and PACs, from all over the country, even outside campaign season. I'm apparently on a lot of mailing lists. And that doesn't even count email spam, I'm just referring to physical letters like this one.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2017, 05:29:13 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on February 28, 2017, 04:54:53 pm
McCain IS the Good Ol' Boys Club.

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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2017, 05:30:53 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on February 28, 2017, 05:26:58 pm
And I get 2-3 per week (or more) from candidates, politicians, and PACs, from all over the country, even outside campaign season. I'm apparently on a lot of mailing lists. And that doesn't even count email spam, I'm just referring to physical letters like this one.

I get requests from Cruz all the time, but thats because I gave the guy a ton of dough during the primaries.

I do think its instructive that a foreign diplomat would be on anyone's contributor list (and I'm sure McCain's not the only one) especially in light of all of the hand wringing about foreign influence.
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2017, 05:32:21 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on February 28, 2017, 05:25:45 pm
Well we won't be hearing from Mr. Churkin anytime soon, as he passed away last week.

I think its safe to assume that Mr Churkin isn't wasn't an Arizonan either.
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2017, 05:36:50 pm »
I did receive some Chris Christie materials and it might have been my name was on some pro-life list, Christie has actually helped close some planned parenthood clinics by defunding them, unlike some so-called Conservatives.
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