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How did this shift from Sweden to every other place?

This was another thread started with the thought process that Donald Trump 'lied' or at least, was misinformed about any newsworthy attack happening in Sweden, Friday, night.

....and that a "POTUS" should never put himself in that position, especially in the middle of a war with Fake News.

Soon as @lonestar mentioned Brexit....we're no longer in Sweden.       :laugh:

edited to add:  reading the actual title of the thread....there's no quarter being given President Trump.
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I voted for it.

Don't use the Express as a supporting point. To put it in US terms, it's like using the National Enquirer.

Yes, the speaker is a disgrace. Unfortunately, we can't get rid of the leftie bastard until the next election.
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I voted for it.

Don't use the Express as a supporting point. To put it in US terms, it's like using the National Enquirer.

Yes, the speaker is a disgrace. Unfortunately, we can't get rid of the leftie bastard until the next election.

We take it for granted here, perhaps, that the House and Senate are usually led by the same political party as the President.

We're soooo lucky that Nancy Pelosi isn't Speaker of the House and Charles Schumer isn't Majority Leader.
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There sure are a lot of Stories about refugee violence in Sweden on Twitter. Murder, rape and arson seems to be a daily occurrence.

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Clever indeed. "Larger theme" = it's ok to lie about the details as long as his larger point is correct.


Sort of like a reverse "fake but accurate", right?


List of 580 terrorists put out by the US DOJ.  Noticed at least two who were UK nationals.   

It is not hard to find lots terrorist attacks in the west, including the UK.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/Terror%20Arrests.senate%20judiciary.pdf


A quick search through the above government published document yields five hits on the UK.
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We take it for granted here, perhaps, that the House and Senate are usually led by the same political party as the President.

We're soooo lucky that Nancy Pelosi isn't Speaker of the House and Charles Schumer isn't Majority Leader.

Yep.  :laugh:

It's a system that works most of the time, but when it doesn't work it REALLY doesn't work.
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There sure are a lot of Stories about refugee violence in Sweden on Twitter. Murder, rape and arson seems to be a daily occurrence.

I thought of that when I read the OT.   

For example, the mentally-handicapped man who was tortured and beaten by four black feral bastards was not widely reported...so I guess unless it rises to at least a dozen people being slaughtered, any objection to the fabrication charge is overruled.   :laugh:
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Yep.  :laugh:

It's a system that works most of the time, but when it doesn't work it REALLY doesn't work.


DCP is wrong, we've had a divided government for most of our recent history.

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DCP is wrong, we've had a divided government for most of our recent history.

I understood what he meant.  :laugh:

Yours is a matter of chance, more than anything else. The speaker being in opposition (although generally acceptable) to the party of government in the UK is policy.

Anyway, sorry for the digression. Don't like my country being used to justify fear - there's enough justifications already.
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DCP is wrong, we've had a divided government for most of our recent history.

That WAS my point.

Only recently, did the Democrats have super majorities....and that two year period is responsible for Obamacare and crushing regulations on free market capitalism.

It's what is FRESH on every Trump voter's mind....so that when EC pointed out that Britain's Speaker was a crazy Leftist and that they're stuck with him....

...I felt compelled to state how fortunate we are right now.
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There sure are a lot of Stories about refugee violence in Sweden on Twitter. Murder, rape and arson seems to be a daily occurrence.

Perhaps there were recent events that Trump was alluding to.  He does have access to intelligence.

Or maybe he made a small mistake because time is moving so fast.
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Perhaps there were recent events that Trump was alluding to.  He does have access to intelligence.

Or maybe he made a small mistake because time is moving so fast.

Just because the mainstream press doesn't report it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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Why does he keep doing this crap? He has access to all the best information. His people should be fact checking his speeches, yet it keeps happening.
BTW, the 'what's he been smoking' isn't editorializing, that was a quote by the Swedish prime minister.

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The Trump Administration is under fire yet again after apparently 'making up' a terror attack that never took place.

During his Florida rally last night, Donald Trump made reference to an attack in Sweden that supposedly occurred on the previous night. 

'You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,' he said.   

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4239652/Trump-fire-makes-terror-attack-Sweden.html#ixzz4Z9RA6J2y
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THREE Swedish police officers were taken to hospital after being attacked by a violent mob on a routine mission in a ‘no-go zone’ on Friday evening.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/766057/Three-police-officers-injured-attacked-thugs-Stockholm-no-go-zone


Nothing to see.....

What's that?  No rapes?  No Taharrush gamea???   Or.... is it just that the ultra-liberal, politically correct Swedish authorities are forbidden from reporting it now?
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Why does he keep doing this crap? He has access to all the best information. His people should be fact checking his speeches, yet it keeps happening.
BTW, the 'what's he been smoking' isn't editorializing, that was a quote by the Swedish prime minister.

I'm getting really sick of having to do this..... but here goes.

How do you know that he isn't talking about something that our intelligence knows about (which is... I know, I know... not something he should be talking about....lol).....but that isn't being reported in the media?

What we DO know is....  much like here in the states, the PC liberals in Sweden are not reporting 'certain crimes or incidents' that are committed by Middle Eastern or African immigrants.

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Seems to me there have been a lot of cases of terrorism by definition in England, Sweden, Germany and America. Just because the governments and media lie with impunity that a thing is not a thing to protect the blessed Muslim, does not in any way alter the fact that acts of terror are regular and ongoing.

And isn't that what we have all complained about for many years now? That the media/govt keeps redefining terrorism to keep the numbers down? It's damn odd that just because it's Trump saying something that suddenly the entirety of the last near-two decades of history didn't happen, especially the people killed in these acts of terrorism are still dead/raped/mutilated, the property they wrecked was still destroyed and excuses and redefinitions had to occur to keep civilized people from protecting themselves.

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Exactly.  Trump did not fabricate anything.  The name of this thread is very misleading.

Seems to me there have been a lot of cases of terrorism by definition in England, Sweden, Germany and America. Just because the governments and media lie with impunity that a thing is not a thing to protect the blessed Muslim, does not in any way alter the fact that acts of terror are regular and ongoing.

And isn't that what we have all complained about for many years now? That the media/govt keeps redefining terrorism to keep the numbers down? It's damn odd that just because it's Trump saying something that suddenly the entirety of the last near-two decades of history didn't happen, especially the people killed in these acts of terrorism are still dead/raped/mutilated, the property they wrecked was still destroyed and excuses and redefinitions had to occur to keep civilized people from protecting themselves.
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What's that?  No rapes?  No Taharrush gamea???   Or.... is it just that the ultra-liberal, politically correct Swedish authorities are forbidden from reporting it now?

Yep.
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Terrorism and refugee rapes are running rampant in Sweden and in your  UK.  What are you talking about?

Did you see Trump's rally yesterday ?   It was a grand slam.  No errors at all.  Even The First Lady was awesome.

Btw where is the link to the video from yesterday's rally?


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First of all what is Trump doing holding Rallies?  He already won.  In less than a month he and his wife feel the need to reinforce his base voters.  Its paranoia.  And the country is paying for him to fly around and promote his presidential ratings with the Evangelicals.
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I've seen nothing of Trump claiming a terror attack.

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First of all what is Trump doing holding Rallies?  He already won.  In less than a month he and his wife feel the need to reinforce his base voters.  Its paranoia.  And the country is paying for him to fly around and promote his presidential ratings with the Evangelicals.

This is EXACTLY what our side needs to do.  W did not hold these rallies. 

And Rush has been saying for two decades we need communicate .   Trump is  a genius for talking to the American people over the fake media.

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This is EXACTLY what our side needs to do.  W did not hold these rallies. 

And Rush has been saying for two decades we need communicate .   Trump is  a genius for talking to the American people over the fake media.

Oh OK, you say we need the President off holding rallies instead of doing his job.  Its only been a month and he needs to rally the people.  To sell the art of the deal again on our dollar.  Yeah rally those Evangelicals with the Lords Prayer.  Everything is alright if you can read the Lords Prayer. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.