The Whole DAM situation (Tallest dam in US), deteriorating spillway causes lots of anxiety (UPDATE: Evacuations Ordered)

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Exactly.  The downforce isn't evenly spread.  Note that the water is atop part of the dam on the upstream side, then it tails off in downforce as you go downstream from the crest.

[Idiot]

Crap...why did I sleep through physics...lol.

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Crap...why did I sleep through physics...lol.

 

I wish I could have slept through it...less pain that way!

[Cripplecreek]

I wish I could have slept through it...less pain that way!

Its interesting to me but I don't want to do the math.

[Joe Wooten]

Its interesting to me but I don't want to do the math.

BUTBUTBUT.... Physics was fun!!

[geronl]

BUTBUTBUT.... Physics was fun!!

In the old days people would say "Nerd!"

Now they just say, "Sure, boss!"

[rangerrebew]

 Obama Stimulus Funds Went to California Dam in ‘Good Shape,’ But Not Oroville
Posted By Elizabeth Harrington On February 16, 2017 @ 5:00 am In Issues | No Comments

The 2009 stimulus package funded millions of dollars for safety improvements for a dam in California that was in “good shape,” but not to the Oroville Dam that is now on the verge of a spillway crisis.

Nearly 200,000 residents north of Sacramento were ordered to evacuate after fears that erosion would cause the emergency spillway to fail, which would lead to “catastrophic flooding“ from a 30-foot wall of water.

Despite more than a decade of warnings about Oroville, there is no public record of the country’s tallest dam receiving any of the more than $34 billion from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act sent to California for infrastructure projects.



Article printed from Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com

URL to article: http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-stimulus-funds-went-california-dam-good-shape-not-oroville/

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[Idiot]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Wingnut]

[Idiot]

@Wingnut
 :thumbsup3:

[Oceander]

It could work!

[Oceander]

Crap...why did I sleep through physics...lol.

Engineering, not physics. 

[Smokin Joe]

I look at the amount of erosion there, and knowing one man's erosion is another man's sediment, realize that if you or I allowed that much sediment load to enter a river we would be besieged with EPA, USFWS, ACoE, and an alphabet soup of agencies for the amount of turbidity we had caused downstream. When it is a government agency, though, Gold King Mine rules apply,,,

[rangerrebew]

It's ba-a-ck! Oroville again threatening lives
Officials don't believe there would be time for evacuations if dam failed
Published: 13 hours ago

 

Californians who dodged a bullet only a week ago when the water from California’s Lake Oroville, a giant reservoir created by a dam 770 feet tall, was overwhelming a damaged spillway and eroding the hillside, have reason to worry again.

Not only is a massive weather system predicted to drop large amounts of precipitation over the drainage this weekend, new warnings are being issued that the entire structure could fail and people downstream wouldn’t have time to flee.

The Associated Press reported late Friday it had uncovered reports from federal regulators several years ago who insisted there should be public-warning systems, annual publicity campaigns and better detection procedures because of the threat that exists from the dam.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/its-ba-a-ck-oroville-again-threatening-lives/#jisIOsckUi3weU1e.99
Published: 13 hours ago
 
 

[rangerrebew]

I sure hope that high speed rail system they built with billions of dollars, rather than shore up dams, doesn't wash away.

[XenaLee]

Well.... some wacko religious nut did predict a giant tsunami would hit the east coast.  Of course, it won't be the east coast, or a coast at all..... it probably won't be called a tsunami..... and it's all been very predictable (no voice from God needed) thus far. 

It kind of reminds me of the foreign film, The Wave. 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3616916/

Only, in that film the residents didn't really have time to evacuate.   They have plenty of time to get away in this instance.  Let's hope and pray that they will do so.
 

[XenaLee]

I sure hope that high speed rail system they built with billions of dollars, rather than shore up dams, doesn't wash away.

Liberalism/leftist control = Misappropriation of funds (See:  New Orleans Katrina disaster).

[EC]

Liberalism/leftist control = Misappropriation of funds (See:  New Orleans Katrina disaster).

Unfortunately in this case, funds were never appropriated, so mis-appropriation isn't a charge. Wilfull endangerment, on the other hand .....

[XenaLee]

Unfortunately in this case, funds were never appropriated, so mis-appropriation isn't a charge. Wilfull endangerment, on the other hand .....

The term may not be applicable, strictly speaking.  But I was replying to the comment by rangebarrow re: how California chose to spend billions on rail vs. infrastructure (this particular dam).

I sure hope that high speed rail system they built with billions of dollars, rather than shore up dams, doesn't wash away.

When liberals take money that they coulda woulda shoulda spent on shoring up a known problem and instead squander that cash on over-budget bling like high-speed rail systems, the exact same results usually occur.

[EC]

The term may not be applicable, strictly speaking.  But I was replying to the comment by rangebarrow re: how California chose to spend billions on rail vs. infrastructure (this particular dam).

When liberals take money that they coulda woulda shoulda spent on shoring up a known problem and instead squander that cash on over-budget bling like high-speed rail systems, the exact same results usually occur.

 

I seem to be stuck in literal mode this afternoon.

I would like to see some heads roll in a legal sense for this though - it's not as if they weren't warned.

[XenaLee]

I seem to be stuck in literal mode this afternoon.

I would like to see some heads roll in a legal sense for this though - it's not as if they weren't warned.

Yeah, me too!   

But you know how liberals are.   Nothing is evah their fault (blame Bush).  Ergo, they never have to take responsibility for their actions and choices.

[Smokin Joe]

Yeah, me too!   

But you know how liberals are.   Nothing is evah their fault (blame Bush).  Ergo, they never have to take responsibility for their actions and choices.

The liberals wouldn't even listen when other liberals warned them. Too busy burning the budget to buy votes or keep their cronies in contracts.

[corbe]

   These are hilarious
   Google Map REVIEWS of the Dam


Richard Mackie 

in the last week -   

★★★★★   
 Dam does a great job at showcasing American ingenuity, the advances we have collectively made in water management,  materials science, and our fundamentally negligent attitudes towards maintenance and risk-assessment.

I took off 1 star due to its inability to, you know, hold back water and prevent critical flooding.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oroville+Dam/@38.5358609,-121.7465704,10z/data=!4m7!3m6!1s0x809cb6e8b27d5f5d:0xf862d16dd22fc74f!8m2!3d39.5379762!4d-121.483064!9m1!1b1

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   These are hilarious
   Google Map REVIEWS of the Dam


Richard Mackie 

in the last week -   

★★★★★   
 Dam does a great job at showcasing American ingenuity, the advances we have collectively made in water management,  materials science, and our fundamentally negligent attitudes towards maintenance and risk-assessment.

I took off 1 star due to its inability to, you know, hold back water and prevent critical flooding.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Oroville+Dam/@38.5358609,-121.7465704,10z/data=!4m7!3m6!1s0x809cb6e8b27d5f5d:0xf862d16dd22fc74f!8m2!3d39.5379762!4d-121.483064!9m1!1b1

I like the one that closes with...

"Recommend using another dam."