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Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« on: February 10, 2017, 02:52:12 am »
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Barnini Chakraborty
Feb. 9, 2017

As judges on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals weigh the legality of President Trump’s immigration executive order, a Republican push to split up the controversial court -- and shrink its clout -- is gaining steam on Capitol Hill.

Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain of Arizona introduced legislation last month to carve six states out of the San Francisco-based court circuit and create a brand new 12th Circuit.

They argue that the 9th is too big, too liberal and too slow resolving cases. If they succeed, only California, Oregon, Hawaii and two island districts would remain in the 9th's judicial fiefdom.

Right now, Flake said, the circuit is far too sprawling.

“It represents 20 percent of the population -- and 40 percent of the land mass is in that jurisdiction.

More... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/09/bill-to-split-nutty-9th-circuit-gains-momentum.html

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 03:14:36 am »
Fox News
Barnini Chakraborty
Feb. 9, 2017

As judges on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals weigh the legality of President Trump’s immigration executive order, a Republican push to split up the controversial court -- and shrink its clout -- is gaining steam on Capitol Hill.

Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain of Arizona introduced legislation last month to carve six states out of the San Francisco-based court circuit and create a brand new 12th Circuit.

They argue that the 9th is too big, too liberal and too slow resolving cases. If they succeed, only California, Oregon, Hawaii and two island districts would remain in the 9th's judicial fiefdom.

Right now, Flake said, the circuit is far too sprawling.

“It represents 20 percent of the population -- and 40 percent of the land mass is in that jurisdiction.

More... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/09/bill-to-split-nutty-9th-circuit-gains-momentum.html


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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 03:29:39 am »
Fox News
Barnini Chakraborty
Feb. 9, 2017

As judges on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals weigh the legality of President Trump’s immigration executive order, a Republican push to split up the controversial court -- and shrink its clout -- is gaining steam on Capitol Hill.

Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain of Arizona introduced legislation last month to carve six states out of the San Francisco-based court circuit and create a brand new 12th Circuit.

They argue that the 9th is too big, too liberal and too slow resolving cases. If they succeed, only California, Oregon, Hawaii and two island districts would remain in the 9th's judicial fiefdom.

Right now, Flake said, the circuit is far too sprawling.

“It represents 20 percent of the population -- and 40 percent of the land mass is in that jurisdiction.

More... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/09/bill-to-split-nutty-9th-circuit-gains-momentum.html

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 04:09:25 am »
While they are at it, add 2 more seats on the SCOTUS.
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 04:15:03 am »
There is enough evidence to show that the 9th Circus is incompetent, politically motivated and an irrelevancy for the amount of power they have. This should be an easy thing to do and the political makeup of the govt' is ripe for getting it done.

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 04:15:26 am »
While they are at it, add 2 more seats on the SCOTUS.

9 nuts are more than enough

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2017, 04:57:09 am »
This is the wrong way to do it.

What's needed is an Article V Convention (meeting, not party) of (credentialed) State Delegates - to impose term limits on judges and give States overrides or other recourse to crazed Federal Court rulings.

That among many needed changes, including repeal of Amendment 17.

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 11:55:23 pm »
I thought this was posted before?  Couldn't find it on our hinkie search.. so JIC

That brings us back to the 9th Circuit. It’s the most overturned court in the United States. It takes around 15 months to pass down a ruling. It’s big, bloated and desperately needs to be disbanded. When it was first created, it represented 4 percent of the population. Now, it represents around 20 percent. That’s why Sen. Jeff Flake and Sen. John McCain introduced legislation last month to break up the 9th Circuit and create a new 12th Circuit, comprised of Nevada, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Arizona and Alaska. Meaning, the 9th Circuit would be left with California, Oregon, Hawaii, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.

“It represents 20 percent of the population — and 40 percent of the land mass is in that jurisdiction. It’s just too big,” Flake said. “We have a bedrock principle of swift justice and if you live in Arizona or anywhere in the 9th Circuit, you just don’t have it.”

Republicans in the House introduced a similar version of the bill. Their version leaves Washington in the 9th Circuit.

Could this happen? Yes. It’s not completely out of the realm of possibilities. It’s been done before. Congress split the 8th Circuit in 1929 and took steps to disband the 9th Circuit in 1998. That effort failed.

If Republican lawmakers push this again, Democrats will most certainly view it as a political move. But the truth is, it’s long past due.
http://www.chicksontheright.com/republicans-push-bill-to-break-up-the-9th-circuit-court-of-appeals

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 12:41:02 am »
I wish this would happen but there's know way the Rats and the Courts are going to let it.

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 12:49:35 am »
I thought this was posted before?  Couldn't find it on our hinkie search.. so JIC


Twice that I know of. Once under, I think, the same title and once under a different title.

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2017, 12:54:50 am »
I wonder if the so-called "breaking news" on FOXNEWS right now....saying the Ninth Circuit Court is willing to hear the government's case in front of all eleven judges.......has anything to do with this?     :laugh:
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2017, 01:08:29 am »
I wonder if the so-called "breaking news" on FOXNEWS right now....saying the Ninth Circuit Court is willing to hear the government's case in front of all eleven judges.......has anything to do with this?     :laugh:

Huummmm!  I wonder!
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2017, 01:09:32 am »
I wonder if the so-called "breaking news" on FOXNEWS right now....saying the Ninth Circuit Court is willing to hear the government's case in front of all eleven judges.......has anything to do with this?     :laugh:

That thought did cross my mind.  But it was push away with the thought that said:  "a beer would sound really good right about now".


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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2017, 01:21:25 am »
The GOP majority needs to pass a bill that will enact what Trump has proposed.
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2017, 01:24:23 am »
The GOP majority needs to pass a bill that will enact what Trump has proposed.

No they don't.  That is already the law.  What congress needs to do is rein in these rogue courts severely.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2017, 01:37:34 am »
I think it's a good idea

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2017, 01:45:08 am »
I wish this would happen but there's know way the Rats and the Courts are going to let it.

Congress has sole authority on this.

Only SCOTUS is Constitutionally enabled.  Everything else in the Judicial branch.. including SCOTUS numbers is the sole power of Congress. No President/executive required.

The repubs could quash the 9th tomorrow if they so willed.
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2017, 01:51:32 am »
Congress has sole authority on this.

Only SCOTUS is Constitutionally enabled.  Everything else in the Judicial branch.. including SCOTUS numbers is the sole power of Congress. No President/executive required.

The repubs could quash the 9th tomorrow if they so willed.
Maybe but if things were as they should be President the Donald's EO would still be in effect.  The Court's have taken over and it appears they can quash anything they want.

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2017, 02:27:04 am »
Maybe but if things were as they should be President the Donald's EO would still be in effect.  The Court's have taken over and it appears they can quash anything they want.

Mayhap then..... The Sons of Liberty.

Guess we shall see.
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2017, 02:38:40 am »
Republicans Push Bill To Break Up The 9th Circuit Court Of Appeals


They don't have the balls. 

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2017, 02:45:00 am »
I wonder if the so-called "breaking news" on FOXNEWS right now....saying the Ninth Circuit Court is willing to hear the government's case in front of all eleven judges.......has anything to do with this?     :laugh:
Probably not. That's just the standard order of the appeals process. District court, three-judge panel of appeals court, full appeals court, SCOTUS.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2017, 02:47:39 am »
I always wondered why the federal courts were structured this way. I think it is high time for a re-structuring.

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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 04:28:45 am »
I wonder if the so-called "breaking news" on FOXNEWS right now....saying the Ninth Circuit Court is willing to hear the government's case in front of all eleven judges.......has anything to do with this?     :laugh:
Perhaps Paul Ryan made a phone call telling them in no uncertain terms their impeachment was imminent?
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2017, 04:29:37 am »
Congress has sole authority on this.

Only SCOTUS is Constitutionally enabled.  Everything else in the Judicial branch.. including SCOTUS numbers is the sole power of Congress. No President/executive required.

The repubs could quash the 9th tomorrow if they so willed.
Or of the impeachment and removal of the three culprits and the sidekick in Seattle.
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Re: Republicans push bill to split up ‘nutty 9th Circuit’
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2017, 04:30:41 pm »
9 nuts are more than enough
11 could be a temporary solution to load it with conservatives. The knowing they have no clout, the liberal old wackos would retire, then it could be reduced, eliminating those liberal seats.
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