WSJ: President Trump Criticizes Nordstrom for Dropping Daughter’s Fashion Label

[Silver Pines]

That would make perfect sense for TJ Maxx.

Their type of customer, upon seeing "Ivanka Trump" might impulsively break the showcase glass enraged.

Not the Nordstrom shopper.

Nordstrom's unnecessary press release on the matter was sending a signal.   A 'signal' which baffles me...marketing-wise.

@DCPatriot

Nope, that's not the average TJ Maxx shopper at all.  Their target is middle- to upper-middle income shoppers who enjoy hunting through rapidly changing merchandise in search of a "find."  The Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry shop at the European brand stores.  My sister-in-law, head nurse for a government defense facility, and my mother-in-law, who can and does shop anywhere she wants, love the place.  They talked me into haunting the local store a few times, and they were right...I found good stuff.

[XenaLee]

Is this online only?..I have never seen an article of clothing at WM costs this much...

Walmart uses a lot of 3rd party sellers online.  Never heard of this one (Rennde). 

[alicewonders]

It's funny.  I've worked in Retail before, and when a line isn't selling - they usually mark it down more and more for clearance before they pull it from the racks.  I think Nordstrum's is definitely making a political statement, because of intense pressure from some liberal groups - this is not a business response. 

It remains to be seen if this has any effect on their bottom line - I hope it does.  I despise businesses that go political and half their customer base be damned.

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

Nope, that's not the average TJ Maxx shopper at all.  Their target is middle- to upper-middle income shoppers who enjoy hunting through rapidly changing merchandise in search of a "find."  The Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry shop at the European brand stores.  My sister-in-law, head nurse for a government defense facility, and my mother-in-law, who can and does shop anywhere she wants, love the place.  They talked me into haunting the local store a few times, and they were right...I found good stuff.

Heck....you and your friends serve as the counter in my example to describe "average TJ Maxx shopper".

I'm chuckling because a close lady friend has acute TDS, and she lives at TJ Maxx and Marshall's....and Tuesday Mornings....

and she could possible become possessed and throw something.     

[geronl]

It's funny.  I've worked in Retail before, and when a line isn't selling - they usually mark it down more and more for clearance before they pull it from the racks.

Maybe they can't mark it down because of the contract

[DCPatriot]

It's funny.  I've worked in Retail before, and when a line isn't selling - they usually mark it down more and more for clearance before they pull it from the racks.  I think Nordstrum's is definitely making a political statement, because of intense pressure from some liberal groups - this is not a business response. 

It remains to be seen if this has any effect on their bottom line - I hope it does.  I despise businesses that go political and half their customer base be damned.

Exactly, why it baffles me, @alicewonders

Marketing-wise....it makes no sense at all.  Plus, it could have been removed quietly and without public fanfare.

They should throw the flag for excessive celebration in the end-zone.

[mystery-ak]

@DCPatriot

Nope, that's not the average TJ Maxx shopper at all.  Their target is middle- to upper-middle income shoppers who enjoy hunting through rapidly changing merchandise in search of a "find."  The Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry shop at the European brand stores.  My sister-in-law, head nurse for a government defense facility, and my mother-in-law, who can and does shop anywhere she wants, love the place.  They talked me into haunting the local store a few times, and they were right...I found good stuff.

I love TJ Maxx..I have bought a lot of name brand handbags there among other things...lol :nometalk:

[ABX]

It's funny.  I've worked in Retail before, and when a line isn't selling - they usually mark it down more and more for clearance before they pull it from the racks.  I think Nordstrum's is definitely making a political statement, because of intense pressure from some liberal groups - this is not a business response. 

It remains to be seen if this has any effect on their bottom line - I hope it does.  I despise businesses that go political and half their customer base be damned.

Many high end retailers like Nordstrom, Macy's, etc, now sell over-stocked or unsold lines to stores like Burlington or Khols as almost an outlet for their stores. They do have some 'clearance rack' sales, but many are moving to dump them on these discount retailers.

I noticed the local Burlington just stocked a lot of Trump brand dress shirts, suits, and ties, probably from the Macy's drop.  Ten bucks for a dress shirt too, not a bad deal.

[DCPatriot]

I love TJ Maxx..I have bought a lot of name brand handbags there among other things...lol :nometalk:

 

You're on the far right end of the TJ Maxx spectrum.   FAR right.

Charlene, OTOH.....she was an avid Hillary and Obama supporter.   Going to miss her........

[geronl]

I noticed the local Burlington just stocked a lot of Trump brand dress shirts, suits, and ties, probably from the Macy's drop.  Ten bucks for a dress shirt too, not a bad deal.

That makes more sense than the high-enders radically marking down stuff. Kind of hard to be elitist when you got clearance racks and day-glo signs screaming "SALE! SALE! SALE!" that might attract the riff-raff and scare off the VIP's

[jpsb]

@jpsb


Defend her from what, though?  She's an adult businesswoman who had a contract with a department store to sell her merchandise.  The stuff stopped selling, so the business contract was ended.

What is he defending her from?

@CatherineofAragon

It was not a business decision, it was a political decision to give in to the Marxists and the NeverTrumpers. Several other retailers are doing the same to Ivanka.  Marxists and NeverTrumpers are targeting businesses and family members of Trump supporters. Sad to see that a lot of folks here are cool with that.

[Silver Pines]

Heck....you and your friends serve as the counter in my example to describe "average TJ Maxx shopper".

I'm chuckling because a close lady friend has acute TDS, and she lives at TJ Maxx and Marshall's....and Tuesday Mornings....

and she could possible become possessed and throw something.     

@DCPatriot

Well, anyone can do that.  I admit to a temper.  :)

Just saying that the target T.J. Maxx shopper is middle-class (guess that's me) and upper-middle class (my inlaws).  The customers I've seen there fit into those categories, IMO. 

Why that is, I don't know.  Ross stores' retail plan is similar---they sell closeouts and unsold items from other stores.  It seems much junkier to me, though. 

[Silver Pines]

I love TJ Maxx..I have bought a lot of name brand handbags there among other things...lol :nometalk:

@mystery-ak

I'm not going near the handbags again!  I took a look last time I was there and I swerved right on away before I could get in trouble....

[Maj. Bill Martin]

This is kind of an odd issue, because on the one hand, it looks like Trump is trying to use the power of his office to help his daughter.
But on the other hand, I don't think it is illegitimate in general for the President to call for support of those being unfairly targeted by the left trying to destroy their livelihood.

I suppose on that basis, I don't have a problem with this.  I just wish he'd make a clear statement of the principle that is at stake.

[Oceander]

President Truman would disagree with you. Since when is a father not entitled to defend his daughter?

Mr. Hume:

I've just read your lousy review of Margaret's concert. I've come to the conclusion that you are an "eight ulcer man on four ulcer pay."

It seems to me that you are a frustrated old man who wishes he could have been successful. When you write such poppy-cock as was in the back section of the paper you work for it shows conclusively that you're off the beam and at least four of your ulcers are at work.

Some day I hope to meet you. When that happens you'll need a new nose, a lot of beefsteak for black eyes, and perhaps a supporter below!

Pegler, a gutter snipe, is a gentleman alongside you. I hope you'll accept that statement as a worse insult than a reflection on your ancestry.

H.S.T.

So Truman could be a corrupt jacka$$ as well.  That doesn't excuse what Trump did.

It's fascinating that you people cannot stand a single criticism of Trump.  That is one of the defining characteristics of a cult of personality.

[Oceander]

This is kind of an odd issue, because on the one hand, it looks like Trump is trying to use the power of his office to help his daughter.
But on the other hand, I don't think it is illegitimate in general for the President to call for support of those being unfairly targeted by the left trying to destroy their livelihood.

I suppose on that basis, I don't have a problem with this.  I just wish he'd make a clear statement of the principle that is at stake.

He did - his personal pique.  You can't read into it what ain't there, no matter how hard you hold your breath.

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

It was not a business decision, it was a political decision to give in to the Marxists and the NeverTrumpers. Several other retailers are doing the same to Ivanka.  Marxists and NeverTrumpers are targeting businesses and family members of Trump supporters. Sad to see that a lot of folks here are cool with that.

@jpsb


It seems TJ Maxx is not getting rid of her clothing line.  They're just incorporating the items with everything else on the floor.


http://www.mediaite.com/online/tj-maxx-and-marshalls-stores-told-to-stop-promoting-ivanka-trump-products/



So in view of the fact that the claims of T.J. Maxx dropping her line were mistaken, how do we know Nordstrom's decision was political?  Couldn't that be a mistake, too?

Personally I don't do boycotts and I'm not into group think.  I'm not concerned about Ivana Trump's business dealings.  Apparently her merchandise stopped selling and that was it.  Why anyone would get in a lather about that is beyond me.

[jpsb]

This is kind of an odd issue, because on the one hand, it looks like Trump is trying to use the power of his office to help his daughter.
But on the other hand, I don't think it is illegitimate in general for the President to call for support of those being unfairly targeted by the left trying to destroy their livelihood.

I suppose on that basis, I don't have a problem with this.  I just wish he'd make a clear statement of the principle that is at stake.

Correct the Marxist left and the neocon NeverTrumpers are organizing and all out assault on Trump and his supporters, their business and their family members including young children. All the time I see threats on twitter. Tammy Lahren can not go for a walk anymore without security.

Tomi Lahren: Intolerant Left “Tried to Beat My A$$” at Trump Inauguration

[r9etb]

This is kind of an odd issue, because on the one hand, it looks like Trump is trying to use the power of his office to help his daughter.
But on the other hand, I don't think it is illegitimate in general for the President to call for support of those being unfairly targeted by the left trying to destroy their livelihood.

I suppose on that basis, I don't have a problem with this.  I just wish he'd make a clear statement of the principle that is at stake.

If we take this one tweet in isolation, perhaps.  But even with the one tweet, while it's understandable that he'd be upset on his daughter's behalf, it's still unseemly for a president to even seem to be intervening in a valid business decision.

Unfortunately, this isn't a one-off thing.  The problem is the general nature Trump's stream-of-consciousness tweets about all the things that bug him. 

Some of his supporters call it genius.  Perhaps it is. 

But to me it looks more like he's burning his political capital at an unsustainable rate, and worse than that he's signalling to his enemies what gets under his skin. 

[geronl]

This is not Ivanka's "Livelihood", this is a hobby.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

He did - his personal pique.  You can't read into it what ain't there, no matter how hard you hold your breath.

As I said, I'd prefer that he make such a statement about the principle.  But regardless, the principle is still at stake.  I'm pretty sick of the lefties trying to destroy the livelihood of anyone they don't like.  And his daughter doesn't even seem that objectionable.

So I'm fine with him doing this.

[txradioguy]

@CatherineofAragon

It was not a business decision, it was a political decision to give in to the Marxists and the NeverTrumpers. Several other retailers are doing the same to Ivanka.  Marxists and NeverTrumpers are targeting businesses and family members of Trump supporters. Sad to see that a lot of folks here are cool with that.

And you know that for a fact how exactly?

[XenaLee]

As I said, I'd prefer that he make such a statement about the principle.  But regardless, the principle is still at stake.  I'm pretty sick of the lefties trying to destroy the livelihood of anyone they don't like.  And his daughter doesn't even seem that objectionable.

So I'm fine with him doing this.

Ivanka is actually more aligned with the liblefties when it comes to political issues.  The only reason they object to her now... is because her dad has that "R" next to his name. 

I think Trump should refrain from commenting on this kind of crap.  He won't, but he should.

[Silver Pines]

Looks like Trump pays less attention to his briefings than Obama.

And we hated Obama for that.

@HonestJohn

It's different when our side does it.  /s

[jpsb]

And you know that for a fact how exactly?

Because unlike some folks I can connected the dots. It is obvious the decision to drop Ivanka was political. So obvious in fact that I am not going to get into and insane argument with a NeverTroumper over it.  If you disagree fine, I could not care less. End of discussion.