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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2017, 03:34:59 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on February 08, 2017, 03:10:21 am
LOL it was kind of an epic beat down but it wouldn't have been so bad if Sanders hadn't taken every opportunity to slap himself around while Ted Cruz rested.

Which we knew would be the case going in!  At least some of us that is!
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2017, 03:36:51 am »
Is it just me or is CNN being pretty fair, overall?
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2017, 03:37:25 am »
"wealthiest country in the world" - everyone take a drink!
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2017, 03:37:58 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 08, 2017, 03:36:51 am
Is it just me or is CNN being pretty fair, overall?

Isn't Ted one of their analysts?
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2017, 03:44:10 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 08, 2017, 03:36:51 am
Is it just me or is CNN being pretty fair, overall?

Yes!  Pretty amazing isn't it!

Or maybe they just took a look at their ratings lately!
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2017, 03:55:59 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on February 08, 2017, 02:26:45 am
Sanders is socialism fixated. The only thing that will ever work is to take money from richer people and give it to bureaucrats.

Sanders cited the Conservative argument that eventually you will run out of other people's money, and then dismissed it by actually saying that we haven't run out yet.

Sanders isn't a socialist.  He is a hardline communist.

 
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2017, 03:58:35 am »
Good debate as far as the moderators being fair.  Hard to believe the CNN actually hosted a fair debate.  Sanders is a socialist period.  It was evident throughout the debate that he wants to expand Bammycare and Ted was very quick to accurately point out the ridiculous cost of Bernie's plan.  Ted blew him out of the water as we knew he would.  Perhaps it was just me, but at times Bernie didn't seem to make sense.

Go Ted!   :beer: :patriot:
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2017, 04:00:30 am »
Quote from: libertybele on February 08, 2017, 03:58:35 am
Good debate as far as the moderators being fair.  Hard to believe the CNN actually hosted a fair debate.  Sanders is a socialist period.  It was evident throughout the debate that he wants to expand Bammycare and Ted was very quick to accurately point out the ridiculous cost of Bernie's plan.  Ted blew him out of the water as we knew he would.  Perhaps it was just me, but at times Bernie didn't seem to make sense.

Go Ted!   :beer: :patriot:

No, it wasn't just you.  I would have had a hard time debating him as some of his comments left me baffled.  I would have had a "what?" look on my face when I should have been answering him.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2017, 04:00:53 am »
Quote from: libertybele on February 08, 2017, 03:58:35 am
Good debate as far as the moderators being fair.  Hard to believe the CNN actually hosted a fair debate.  Sanders is a socialist period.  It was evident throughout the debate that he wants to expand Bammycare and Ted was very quick to accurately point out the ridiculous cost of Bernie's plan.  Ted blew him out of the water as we knew he would.  Perhaps it was just me, but at times Bernie didn't seem to make sense.

Go Ted!   :beer: :patriot:

Perhaps it was just me, but at times Bernie didn't seem to make sense

according to Bernie supporters, that is when he is at his best.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2017, 04:04:46 am »
Quote from: bigheadfred on February 08, 2017, 04:00:53 am
Perhaps it was just me, but at times Bernie didn't seem to make sense

according to Bernie supporters, that is when he is at his best.

If Bernie has EVER made sense I missed it!  Can someone provide a link!
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2017, 04:08:23 am »
Since I didn't watch it, I wonder? Was this a "See America? The candidates you should have had."
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2017, 04:14:31 am »
Quote from: bigheadfred on February 08, 2017, 04:08:23 am
Since I didn't watch it, I wonder? Was this a "See America? The candidates you should have had."

There could have been a little bit of that.  But, since I'm an optimist I think it was "the candidate you maybe can have".
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2017, 04:21:13 am »
Quote from: corbe on February 08, 2017, 01:24:29 am
   @IsailedawayfromFR   I was referring to the fact that every dam debate Trump participated in-the 'online' polls with Trumpbart/Drudge/TOS were skewed as if they, the Trumpsters, were watching something beamed from another galaxy. But, as I and @Right_in_Virginia agrees, it's time to move on.


   Talk about the Cruz phobia, the three sites I mentioned above, nary even a blurb about this debate, the hate is that deep, but hey, Lena's lost weight.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2017, 04:27:13 am »
Quote from: corbe on February 08, 2017, 04:21:13 am

   Talk about the Cruz phobia, the three sites I mentioned above, nary even a blurb about this debate, the hate is that deep, but hey, Lena's lost weight.

It's actually a sort of interesting discussion over there:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3522301/posts.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2017, 04:37:05 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 08, 2017, 04:27:13 am
It's actually a sort of interesting discussion over there:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3522301/posts.

my bad @Sanguine I didn't do a search over there just scanned the first couple of pages.


edit:   what an ugly reminder that editor-surveyor is still acting like an a$$hole over there.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2017, 04:51:34 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 08, 2017, 04:14:31 am
There could have been a little bit of that.  But, since I'm an optimist I think it was "the candidate you maybe can have".

Maybe can have? They're going to have to dig up The Bern's corpse for that to happen. He's about 108 right now.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2017, 11:24:01 am »
Sanders didn't do himself any favors beating up on the audience member. He found out that she owned a few nail salons and he just couldn't help himself.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2017, 12:44:16 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on February 08, 2017, 04:51:34 am
Maybe can have? They're going to have to dig up The Bern's corpse for that to happen. He's about 108 right now.

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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2017, 01:05:46 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 08, 2017, 03:36:51 am
Is it just me or is CNN being pretty fair, overall?

The only complaint I have is they took four questions from people who essentially asked Cruz the same question - will you commit to keeping the wonderful component of Obamacare that saved my/mykids life? And only one question from someone who is hurt by ACA.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2017, 01:15:57 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 08, 2017, 01:05:46 pm
The only complaint I have is they took four questions from people who essentially asked Cruz the same question - will you commit to keeping the wonderful component of Obamacare that saved my/mykids life? And only one question from someone who is hurt by ACA.

Does anyone know the number of people who don't have insurance because if the ACA? I can't seem to find any data.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #70 on: February 08, 2017, 01:29:34 pm »
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2017, 01:42:11 pm »
Obamacare won't go away.  Best we can hope for is a tweak or 2.  Truth is both parties love Obamacare and the power over life and death it brings.  My guess is that we will see a single-payer, govrtnment-controlled plan.  Which was what was intended by Obamacare all along. 

Whatever happens, the core issues with Obamacare will not be resolved and for those who are paying for this mess, while struggling to pay for their own care, their situation will become a lot worse.  Expect to be shouldering a lot more of the burden for freeloaders, as well as for yourself and your family.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2017, 01:47:09 pm »
I thought it was going to be a debate on Obamacare, with Bernie for it and Cruz against it.  As it turned out, it was a free-market vs single-payer debate.

As an aside, there were a couple of times during the debate where Bernie would continue moving his mouth in the middle of his statements but nothing was coming out.  Very strange -- it looked like a badly-dubbed Japanese monster movie.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2017, 01:53:24 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on February 08, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
I thought it was going to be a debate on Obamacare, with Bernie for it and Cruz against it.  As it turned out, it was a free-market vs single-payer debate.

As an aside, there were a couple of times during the debate where Bernie would continue moving his mouth in the middle of his statements but nothing was coming out.  Very strange -- it looked like a badly-dubbed Japanese monster movie.

Bernie's swaying back and forth like he was a kid who had to run to the bathroom while Ted was speaking was equally annoying.

Bernie wants to expand Obamacare making it into a socialistic program while Cruz wants to shut down Obamacare and implement a plan letting the free markets take over.   I haven't researched if Bernie actually has drafted  his own plan, but I know Cruz has.
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Re: CNN to Host Debate Night with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on Feb. 7
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2017, 01:59:28 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on February 08, 2017, 01:47:09 pm
I thought it was going to be a debate on Obamacare, with Bernie for it and Cruz against it.  As it turned out, it was a free-market vs single-payer debate.

As an aside, there were a couple of times during the debate where Bernie would continue moving his mouth in the middle of his statements but nothing was coming out.  Very strange -- it looked like a badly-dubbed Japanese monster movie.

Sanders didn't look good attacking a business owner who couldn't afford to insure her employees or herself. No compassion, just tough noogies for the employees she would have to fire to pay for insurance and tough noogies that she can't grow her business.

Cruz showed his typical compassion even for those who falsely claimed they would be dead if not for Obamacare.

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