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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #125 on: January 23, 2017, 11:56:38 pm »
Hey if one can be conservative while spouting rote pro choice propaganda here, SHIRLEY one can be straight in assless chaps with VP heros! Doesn't make you a bad man ;)

I hate to be the anal one here (HAH!), but chaps ARE assless.  They're designed to protect the front side of the legs.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #126 on: January 23, 2017, 11:56:57 pm »
This one does.  I believe States, or in lieu of that cities, or counties should have the right to choose their own laws regarding abortion in that society.  And as a member of that society, I have the right to express my opinion and argument advocating for the protection of human life.

It is the pro-abortion people who are anti-choice since they are the ones insisting that a society be denied the choice to establish its own laws.

I mean 'The right to choose" regarding 'choose to murder your own children". AKA the typical liberal position.

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« Reply #127 on: January 23, 2017, 11:57:18 pm »
Hey if one can be conservative while spouting rote pro choice propaganda here, SHIRLEY one can be straight in assless chaps with VP heros! Doesn't make you a bad man ;)

I'm gonna chew on that awhile.   It's date night night in Montana and I have to get the flock out of here.

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #128 on: January 23, 2017, 11:58:17 pm »
I hate to be the anal one here (HAH!), but chaps ARE assless.  They're designed to protect the front side of the legs.

I figured someone would point that out eventually ;)

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #129 on: January 23, 2017, 11:58:18 pm »
What annoys me the most about this thread is that we have at least 3 women who are saying abortion is basically murder, and yet we have jazz head "mansplaining" to us why we are wrong and he is right on something he calls a women's issue

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #130 on: January 23, 2017, 11:58:52 pm »
I mean 'The right to choose" regarding 'choose to murder your own children". AKA the typical liberal position.

Yeah, I figured that.  I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy of those claiming to be pro-choice.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #131 on: January 23, 2017, 11:59:03 pm »
JH also believes that gay "marriage" is a right as well...protected by the 14th Amendment.

Someone is jut trying to stir the pot and play contrarian.

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Well, he does stay away from personal attacks....
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #132 on: January 23, 2017, 11:59:49 pm »
Roe is a Constitutional issue - not a religious one.

Yes, it is.   

...cept for that darn 5th Commandment.   :shrug:
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #133 on: January 24, 2017, 12:00:18 am »
I'm gonna chew on that awhile.   It's date night night in Montana and I have to get the flock out of here.

Leave the cute one with the spotted wool alone. Thats the sheriff's girl. (Don't ask how I know. The memory is too painful)

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #134 on: January 24, 2017, 12:01:14 am »
What annoys me the most about this thread is that we have at least 3 women who are saying abortion is basically murder, and yet we have jazz head "mansplaining" to us why we are wrong and he is right on something he calls a women's issue

He's taking the classic position on abortion, which is it protects the right of men to have cost-free sex.  That's what it's all about.  I am so glad you Mom resisted the pressure and brought us you.  Hey!  I got a new FB account!  I need to Friend you!
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #135 on: January 24, 2017, 12:02:22 am »
JH also believes that gay "marriage" is a right as well...protected by the 14th Amendment.

Forcing same-sex marriage upon the States is a violation of equal protection under Amendment XIV in that it forces allowance for one preference while denying all others.  Jazzhead knows this.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #136 on: January 24, 2017, 12:03:45 am »
He's taking the classic position on abortion, which is it protects the right of men to have cost-free sex.  That's what it's all about.  I am so glad you Mom resisted the pressure and brought us you.  Hey!  I got a new FB account!  I need to Friend you!

How 'new'?

PM me....I need to Friend 'YOU'!    :beer:
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #137 on: January 24, 2017, 12:04:00 am »
Forcing same-sex marriage upon the States is a violation of equal protection under Amendment XIV in that it forces allowance for one preference while denying all others.  Jazzhead knows this.

He's argued the exact opposite on here when the topic comes up.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #138 on: January 24, 2017, 12:04:05 am »
Yes, it is.   

...cept for that darn 5th Commandment.   :shrug:

I can't find a 5th Commandment in my copy of the Constitution nor could I find any mention of it in any abortion case law.  Can you show me where I can locate it?
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #139 on: January 24, 2017, 12:04:20 am »
I hate to be the anal one here (HAH!), but chaps ARE assless.  They're designed to protect the front side of the legs.

Protect them from what...rug burns?

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #140 on: January 24, 2017, 12:07:04 am »
I can't find a 5th Commandment in my copy of the Constitution nor could I find any mention of it in any abortion case law.  Can you show me where I can locate it?

Anal, much?

Abortion is the killing of a human being.   Killing is against God's Commandment.   Ergo, may people need to go no further in defending their position against abortion.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #141 on: January 24, 2017, 12:07:21 am »
I can't find a 5th Commandment in my copy of the Constitution nor could I find any mention of it in any abortion case law.  Can you show me where I can locate it?

Check under "Never Trumpers took a position that. while in synch with Trump's 'stated' position of late, must be opposed because they refused to bow down during the campaign".

Some people can't get over themselves.

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #142 on: January 24, 2017, 12:09:21 am »
He's argued the exact opposite on here when the topic comes up.

And his argument failed miserably.

I made the equal protection argument that as an insomniac I should have the right to marry identical twins so that I could have a wife that was awake any time I was awake.  It is my preference.  Yet the law and the court denies me my preference while granting preference to one group.  Not just granting that preference, but forcing it upon the entire nation regardless of State laws and State Constitutions.  Thus, equal protection is violated since one preference is enforced (at the point of a gun) while another is denied.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #143 on: January 24, 2017, 12:11:23 am »
@Norm Lenhart

Hey, I'm still never Trump, but I am very happy I was wrong about his stance on this issue

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #144 on: January 24, 2017, 12:13:27 am »
@Norm Lenhart

Hey, I'm still never Trump, but I am very happy I was wrong about his stance on this issue

Same here, but I'll reserve judgement until he brings it home to America. So far, so good though.

What I meant is that Don's more fanatical fans here can't get past the fact that we didn't simply STFU and evaporate. So they HAVE to fight us about something even when we support his decisions.

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #145 on: January 24, 2017, 12:13:52 am »
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #146 on: January 24, 2017, 12:14:01 am »
Anal, much?

Abortion is the killing of a human being.   Killing is against God's Commandment.   Ergo, may people need to go no further in defending their position against abortion.

Yet I did go further.  I bypassed the religious argument altogether.  I didn't include religion at all.  Yet you couldn't help yourself.  For you, it was like a knee-jerk reflex.  Kind of hypocritical if you ask me. 
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #147 on: January 24, 2017, 12:17:51 am »
Yet I did go further.  I bypassed the religious argument altogether.  I didn't include religion at all.  Yet you couldn't help yourself.  For you, it was like a knee-jerk reflex.  Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

WTF are you talking about??

I have absolutely no interest in why 'you' guyz are against abortion.

I was merely making an observation that, to many people, being against abortion on religious grounds, is sufficient.

Wasn't challenging anybody on this thread, whatsoever.

Get over yourselves.
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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #148 on: January 24, 2017, 12:20:11 am »
I thought this was a great idea when this was done the first time.

(was it Dubya? I think it might have been).

While the President may not be able to change the existing US law, at least we do not have to allow our tax dollars to go overseas to fund them.

Nice job.

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Re: Trump Signs First Anti Abortion Legislation Today
« Reply #149 on: January 24, 2017, 12:22:34 am »


#NTs can take a hike.   

First Monday of the man's presidency....and ya'll still find something to bitch about.   
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