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Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« on: January 20, 2017, 05:04:59 pm »
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/anonymous-trump-you-will-regret-next-4-years-n708401

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Anonymous, the loose collective of online hackers, issued an ominous warning to President-elect Donald Trump ahead of his inauguration, telling the billionaire he's going to "regret" the next four years.

On Twitter, the group put out a call to action to its followers, urging them to expose any potential compromising information they can find about the soon-to-be new leader of the free world.

The group tweeted at Trump, repeating unsubstantiated allegations that he has "financial and personal ties with Russian mobsters, child traffickers, and money launderers."

"This isn't the 80's any longer, information doesn't vanish, it is all out there. You are going to regret the next 4 years. @realDonaldTrump," reads a tweet from @YourAnonCentral, an account used to disseminate information amongt the hacker group.

Trump, a usually trigger-happy tweeter, seems to be ignoring the threats for now.

Trump has long been in Anonymous' crosshairs, with the group declaring war on him last year when he was a candidate for President of the United States.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 05:10:00 pm »
Those of us who honor principles, not men, expect Trump to have a hard time - or any President who's a change agent.

The test will be what Trump does when the road is rough.  Or, more accurately, how much he makes nice-nice with the Democrats, anarchists and foreign imperialists such as Putin.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 05:17:53 pm »
Why would he regret what hasn't happened yet? He'll be an even richer, corrupter 74 year old without a care in the world.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 05:18:43 pm »
Its time for them to be put away.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 05:24:23 pm »
Its time for them to be put away.

They're just threatening to emulate Julian Assange.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 05:25:33 pm »
Its time for them to be put away.
Time to punish crime.

That they're out there, sniping through their mediuh enablers...means little.  I'd rather tolerate a shadowy group of anonymous KOOKS than live under a police state that tolerates no dissent.

As acts, whether network invasions or actual violence...as they occur, put Forensics experts on there to track them down.

And it'll be a real career feather for them.  Having once been on the periphery of the hackers' world...I can tell you that a huge majority of those creepy hidden losers, fat, unemployable, in Mama's basement...are into kiddie porn.

Like homosexuals, these computer guerrillas...are mentally sick.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2017, 05:31:29 pm »
The same people who celebrate Julian Assange are wanting to "put away" Anonymous.

Wow, talk about the definition of hypocrisy.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2017, 05:36:34 pm »
The problem is Anonymous is not centralized and when you hear or read someone from Anonymous, you don't know if it is a professional hacker, troll, or 10 year old kid. Anonymous doesn't have a centralized belief system or controlling authority.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2017, 05:37:40 pm »
The same people who celebrate Julian Assange are wanting to "put away" Anonymous.

Wow, talk about the definition of hypocrisy.

Assange isn't Anonymous. Wikileaks aren't related to Anonymous. Sometimes one or the other may use each other, but they are different entities.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2017, 05:41:48 pm »
Assange isn't Anonymous. Wikileaks aren't related to Anonymous. Sometimes one or the other may use each other, but they are different entities.

The reason Anonymous and Assange both need to be prosecuted, has nothing to do with which side they're helping, or appear to help.

Law is Law.  Hacking into secure networks, stealing electronic data and then releasing it...IS A CRIME.  No matter if you're Satan or Robin Hood.

It's called Rule of Law.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2017, 06:27:41 pm »
Oh, come on. The kind of crap we already know about him would have killed just about any other person's aspirations. His supporters dug in their heels, and even more simply voted for him knowing full well that he was a terrible person simply because they were voting for "Not Hillary Clinton."

There's not much these Anonymous types could do to Trump personally that hasn't already been done and failed.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2017, 06:30:20 pm »
The converse, however, is not true.

Anonymous is mostly tolerated as a nuisance and not targeted for investigation and arrest, being considered a waste of time and resources. That can change with one phone call.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2017, 07:01:04 pm »
Anonymous is a joke. They talk talk talk but never produce squat.

Actual accomplishments: A-none-ymous
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2017, 07:12:53 pm »
Oh, come on. The kind of crap we already know about him would have killed just about any other person's aspirations. His supporters dug in their heels, and even more simply voted for him knowing full well that he was a terrible person simply because they were voting for "Not Hillary Clinton."

There's not much these Anonymous types could do to Trump personally that hasn't already been done and failed.

Point well taken.

Also, the way he's handled the transition and his speech today emphasizing he intends to keep his campaign promises will only increase his support. The Rats are making it easy for him because they are acting like snowflakes having a temper tantrum. He could surprise a lot of us who didn't vote for him. I hope so because it would be good for the USA.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2017, 07:40:53 pm »
Assange isn't Anonymous. Wikileaks aren't related to Anonymous. Sometimes one or the other may use each other, but they are different entities.

No.

But the point was that they do the same things.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2017, 07:41:39 pm »
Trump doesn't regret anything he ever did in his life (except maybe letting his second wife go), heck he might not even remember the things he did yesterday enough to regret them.

I doubt the Orange One is capable of that kind of cognitive initiative.

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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2017, 08:33:02 pm »
Anonymous is a joke. They talk talk talk but never produce squat.

Actual accomplishments: A-none-ymous

You've never followed their attacks on ISIS have you? Operation Ice ISIS. They've had multiple ISIS websites taken down and Twitter accounts removed.

They also have a campaign called Operation Death Eater and Op Dark Net that takes out child pornographers and websites and has netted many arrests.

They were able to hack white nationalist Hal Turner's computer and expose that he was making threats against judges, resulting in his arrest.

They hacked and leaked the Church of Scientology's internal documents exposing their financial scams and how they manipulate people.

Anonymous Iran has been getting out information about their torture of political prisoners and other abuses for years.

They hacked several high ranking Russian officials email accounts and exposed they were paying the press for favorable stories. Several Kremlin members had to resign.

They exposed sexual and physical abuse at the Judge Rotenberg Center including hacking security videos and internal documents.  Several directors resigned and as well as some were arrested.


Like I've said, Anonymous is very diverse. There are many factions within the group doing a lot of good. A lot of bad, but also a lot of good.








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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2017, 09:56:27 pm »
@AbaraXas

Color me particularly unimpressed.

You've never followed their attacks on ISIS have you? Operation Ice ISIS. They've had multiple ISIS websites taken down and Twitter accounts removed.

Seriously? Identifying ISIS sites and getting them removed from their hosts? People do the same thing for "offensive" Facebook accounts. All it takes as a whiny email to Facebook.

If they are performing attacks, I'm equally unimpressed. A DOS attack on a third-rate outfit's bathroom server is hardly an accomplishment. If I went looking for ISIS sites, performing a DOS on them would be trivial. Sounds like the only real requirement here is the ability to speak Farsi or read Arabic so you can identify ISIS content. Since most of us don't, we can't participate.

Chalk this one up under "internet mischief 101."

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They also have a campaign called Operation Death Eater and Op Dark Net that takes out child pornographers and websites and has netted many arrests.


While this is a good thing, it's also not anything particularly impressive. I personally did this once myself.

I started receiving "you should die you sick f$%k" email responses in my inbox years ago - all to an email that had spoofed my email addy as the return address. Child porn. Did some registration research and discovered they had "borrowed" some poor lady's identity in KY as the registrant. Went deeper. Researched the email header... did some tracerouting... etc... found the origin server in London. Worked with the FBI and the ISP in England to nab 'em.

So, in summary - good on them - but it's nothing earth shattering to take down a kiddie porn operation. The way they talk, it's always like they are going to "change the world" with their actions.

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They were able to hack white nationalist Hal Turner's computer and expose that he was making threats against judges, resulting in his arrest.


Never heard of this, nor do I particularly think the case is high profile enough to make a spit of difference. My guess - they social engineered this one and put an "Anonymous" bow on it to make it seem like they were l33t h4x0rs. But that's just a guess.

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They hacked and leaked the Church of Scientology's internal documents exposing their financial scams and how they manipulate people.


Whaaaaaaaaat? The Church of Scientology is a financial scam and they manipulate people???? NO WAY!!!!

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Anonymous Iran has been getting out information about their torture of political prisoners and other abuses for years.


Whaaaaaaaaat? The Iranian government tortures political prisoners???? NO WAY!!!!

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They hacked several high ranking Russian officials email accounts and exposed they were paying the press for favorable stories. Several Kremlin members had to resign.


Damn Russian hackers interfering in elections again.

For the record, Anonymous didn't have squat to do with the "election hacks" this time around.

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They exposed sexual and physical abuse at the Judge Rotenberg Center including hacking security videos and internal documents.  Several directors resigned and as well as some were arrested.


Again, never heard of it. Maybe they did this, but it is small fish for an organization that wears the V for Vendetta masks.

Well you can't catch a big fish, you make sure your fish stories about the small ones are EPIC. (Where is the Epstein Island video of Bill with a minor Anonymous claimed to have? Oh yeah... did you SEE the whopper I caught over at the Judge Rotenberg Center pond?)

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Like I've said, Anonymous is very diverse. There are many factions within the group doing a lot of good. A lot of bad, but also a lot of good.


Meh. They are revolutionary wannabes who have had some successes, but probably only because they went after soft targets. Let's hear a hard target get hacked.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
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They were able to hack white nationalist Hal Turner's computer and expose that he was making threats against judges, resulting in his arrest.
Actually, Turner was making those threats very publicly. His only defense was that he claimed to be an FBI agent provocateur.
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Re: Anonymous to Trump: You Will ‘Regret’ the Next 4 Years
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2017, 10:32:04 pm »
No.

But the point was that they do the same things.

Yep and Russia will use Assange against Trump if Trump steps out of line the same way they'll use anonymous.

I think its why Assange changed his mind about turning himself in for extradition to the USA if Manning was released. His Russian handlers don't want him in or out of an American prison.