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Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« on: January 12, 2017, 04:14:42 pm »
Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
By Victor Davis Hanson
January 12, 2017

Last week in Chicago, a white special-needs teenager was held captive by four black youths. The victim was bound, gagged, tortured, forced to drink toilet water, partially scalped, and subject to racially and politically motivated verbal abuse. The perpetrators streamed portions of their violent savagery on Facebook.

After the victim escaped from his assailants and was found on the streets by a police officer, a Chicago police commander initially said he was unsure whether the attack constituted a hate crime -- as if that distinction might calibrate the crime's viciousness.

President Obama was likewise initially hesitant to label this cruelty as a racially motivated hate crime -- which was odd given the president's prior readiness to jump into and editorialize about racially charged cases such as those of Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates and Trayvon Martin.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/12/hate_crime_legislation_a_good_idea_that_went_bad_132761.html
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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 06:38:37 pm »
VDH is wrong here.  The whole concept of "hate crimes" was never a good and noble idea.  It was always a bad idea.  The acts should (and are!) criminal, but trying to criminalize thoughts is unamerican and a terrible precedent.  You just know that as we have seen anything the left doesn't like becomes a forbidden thought, even if the same thought against their opponents is valid and not a "hate crime."
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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 04:08:42 pm »
 
Quote from: Doug Loss on January 12, 2017, 06:38:37 pm
VDH is wrong here.  The whole concept of "hate crimes" was never a good and noble idea.  It was always a bad idea.  The acts should (and are!) criminal, but trying to criminalize thoughts is unamerican and a terrible precedent.  You just know that as we have seen anything the left doesn't like becomes a forbidden thought, even if the same thought against their opponents is valid and not a "hate crime."

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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 04:59:40 pm »
Quote from: Doug Loss on January 12, 2017, 06:38:37 pm
VDH is wrong here.  The whole concept of "hate crimes" was never a good and noble idea.  It was always a bad idea.  The acts should (and are!) criminal, but trying to criminalize thoughts is unamerican and a terrible precedent.  You just know that as we have seen anything the left doesn't like becomes a forbidden thought, even if the same thought against their opponents is valid and not a "hate crime."
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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 05:01:44 pm »
It was a bad idea that should have been aborted upon conception.
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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 05:03:09 pm »
It was never a good idea.
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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 05:15:51 pm »
It was wrong to federalize racial crimes back in the 60s.

Sure it sucked that some racist juries were never going to convict some obviously guilty men but the feds had no right to violate the rights of every other American by removing those trials to federal jurisdictions more favorable to conviction.
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Re: Hate Crime Legislation a Good Idea That Went Bad
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 03:19:09 am »
cripplecreek wrote:
"It was wrong to federalize racial crimes back in the 60s."

And that's why -- for years -- I've posted here that the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of the 1960's were two of the most destructive laws ever passed in this country...
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