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Trump has a big mouth and he may get us all killed but I think you overstate his willingness to kill millions.   It would be much more difficult for him to trigger a war if America hadn't been put in a weak position.  Obamas weak leadership has set the stage.

I greatly agree. Which was a main part of OThuga's assignment.

And his hatred of America made his task one he took to with glee.

What a traitorous illegal immigrant.
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We should also fear the Mexican navy!



. . . perhaps . . . places like Corpus Christi . . . a little . . . if festivities happened outside of Siesta time.
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Unprecedented.

Except for the last time it happened. And the time before that. And the time before that. And .... you get the idea.

Maybe or was supposed to be "unpresidented" given who's in the White House.
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Maybe or was supposed to be "unpresidented" given who's in the White House.

LOLOL.

Touche.
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December 26, 2016 by Dean James
BREAKING: China JUST Made Unprecidented ‘WAR MOVE’, Obama SILENT… Here’s What We Know
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China is “testing the waters” in a new show of force by breaking out their new aircraft carrier and five other warships. The ships passed by Taiwan and sailed into the contested South China Sea on Monday, Taiwan’s Defense Ministry reported Monday.

FOX reports that China’s Defense Ministry said that the Liaoning carrier had set off for a routine open-sea exercise in the Western Pacific as part of its annual training. But its entering into the politically sensitive South China Sea follows rising tensions between Beijing and Taipei over the status of the self-ruled island.

The ships, led by the Liaoning, sailed past the Pratas Islands, also known as the Dongsha Islands, a Taiwan-controlled atoll in the northern part of the South China Sea, according to Taiwan.

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2016/12/26/china-war-move/

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I think you make good points.

However, I wouldn't count our subs out so wholesale quite yet.

We likely have more than a few tricks up our better tech and training sleeves.

Then there's our UFO and probably USO craft . . . as well as other exotic weapons.

I was once told by someone who should have known that we have at least ELEVEN different and better (i.e. more devastating) weapons systems than nukes. I couldn't squeeze out even a slight hint about what sorts.


The thing about a sub is, you don't really have to sink it. All you need to do is to disable it.


Since a submarine is already in a hazardous, somewhat tenuous, situation when submerged, disabling it becomes that much easier.


If you have weapons which will disable any submarine anywhere within a significant circumference area, then again, as I said before, you don't really have to know where it is. If you launch these disabling weapons in a tessellated clearing pattern, you can clear several miles of area and send prayers up for any underwater craft that may have been there.



That is my basic point. Today, when engaging a submarine, it is not necessary to know where it is. All you need to know is a general area, and you got it.


The bottom of the oceans is covered with trenches, mountains, and valleys. In many areas of the ocean there is only one, or one of a few, paths to travel safely when submerged. These paths can be mined with drones which will wait there until they pick up a specific audio signature. Then they will automatically activate and deploy.


I would not want to be on a submarine today, in a time of war. They are too easy to kill, even if they are sitting still hiding somewhere. It does not matter.
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The more ALLCAPS words an article title has, the more it trends toward kookdom.

Was that a missive from Mount Olympus

or from

your own "throne room?"

And it added meaningfully and constructively to the discussion how?

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The thing about a sub is, you don't really have to sink it. All you need to do is to disable it.


Since a submarine is already in a hazardous, somewhat tenuous, situation when submerged, disabling it becomes that much easier.


If you have weapons which will disable any submarine anywhere within a significant circumference area, then again, as I said before, you don't really have to know where it is. If you launch these disabling weapons in a tessellated clearing pattern, you can clear several miles of area and send prayers up for any underwater craft that may have been there.



That is my basic point. Today, when engaging a submarine, it is not necessary to know where it is. All you need to know is a general area, and you got it.


The bottom of the oceans is covered with trenches, mountains, and valleys. In many areas of the ocean there is only one, or one of a few, paths to travel safely when submerged. These paths can be mined with drones which will wait there until they pick up a specific audio signature. Then they will automatically activate and deploy.


I would not want to be on a submarine today, in a time of war. They are too easy to kill, even if they are sitting still hiding somewhere. It does not matter.

Quite sobering, for sure.

Was never interested in joining the sub fleet. Sinuses would have prevented it anyway.

What sort of physics would such anti-sub weapons take advantage of?
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Was that a missive from Mount Olympus

or from

your own "throne room?"

And it added meaningfully and constructively to the discussion how?


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Quite sobering, for sure.

Was never interested in joining the sub fleet. Sinuses would have prevented it anyway.

What sort of physics would such anti-sub weapons take advantage of?


I will not go into detail, but EMP and sonic weapons are two of the more well known anti-submarine devices. This is not news.
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I will not go into detail, but EMP and sonic weapons are two of the more well known anti-submarine devices. This is not news.

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I will not go into detail, but EMP and sonic weapons are two of the more well known anti-submarine devices. This is not news.

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Drives the whales right out of the water.


Yep. These weapons will kill life in the ocean. I have often wondered how many of these whale and dolphin groundings were caused by a weapon launched by some nation.


Even if it doesn't kill them outright, it can disorient and disrupt their sense of direction and cause them to run aground.
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I will not go into detail, but EMP and sonic weapons are two of the more well known anti-submarine devices. This is not news.

Wellllllll, that bumps into my ignorance on such scores.

I wasn't aware EMP worked below ground/water level.

I know some  sonic stuff can be rather frightful.
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Yep. These weapons will kill life in the ocean. I have often wondered how many of these whale and dolphin groundings were caused by a weapon launched by some nation.


Even if it doesn't kill them outright, it can disorient and disrupt their sense of direction and cause them to run aground.

I've read some theories on sonic weapons doing that. But I also wonder if seismic activity can do the same to ocean critters.
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Look no further than Imperial Japan for proof of that.

War with China would be bad enough, but if we have to let it be a China attempting to project power more than a few miles off of their coast.

I assume you know about China's COSCO shipping company . . . largely owned by the PLA (army).

I wonder how well we'd handle many hundreds of such container ships with many 10's of thousands of troops landing on the West coast after some serious missile attacks first.
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I've read some theories on sonic weapons doing that. But I also wonder if seismic activity can do the same to ocean critters.

Are sonic weapons some of what can generate or trigger major quakes?
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Are sonic weapons some of what can generate or trigger major quakes?

Interesting question. Going to have to look that one up. Is HAARP strictly for atmospheric "research"?
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I assume you know about China's COSCO shipping company . . . largely owned by the PLA (army).

I wonder how well we'd handle many hundreds of such container ships with many 10's of thousands of troops landing on the West coast after some serious missile attacks first.

Wouldn't happen without knowing it's coming.
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Interesting question. Going to have to look that one up. Is HAARP strictly for atmospheric "research"?

I don't know definitively, much about HARP. I have that one bit of confirmation that it could do some of what has been  rumored. But that's all I have besides the published rumors  from various whistle-blowers.

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Wouldn't happen without knowing it's coming.

I would tend to agree . . .

short of . . . some really ugly self-defeating treasonous blinding of our assets . . . a la akin to 9/11 etc.
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