Gingrich: Trump doesn't want to 'drain the swamp' anymore

[Silver Pines]

I already know that the die-hard NeverTrumpers are going to jump me for saying this, but I don't care. This does not indicate a betrayal to me. On the contrary, it indicates a man who is serious, and wants to get down to the actual business of doing the job.


Having read the article twice, all I get from this is that Trump is saying that he wants to tone down the rhetoric. He never said that he is no longer interested in reforming D.C. All he said is that the bumper sticker slogans that were used during the campaign have no use in actually getting the job done.

@240B

But so many of his hardcore fans took it all as gospel.

Regardless, I expect most of them will attempt to justify it, as you're doing here, every time he backs away from those promises he made....at least publically, in order to save face.  Privately, some of them will be furious that they fell for his schtick. 

[Silver Pines]

@Machiavelli

Wait until it becomes clear the wall isn't going to be built.

"Well, he never meant a REAL wall...there was no way that would have happened, anyway..."

[240B]

@Machiavelli

Wait until it becomes clear the wall isn't going to be built.

"Well, he never meant a REAL wall...there was no way that would have happened, anyway..."

Well, I respect Catherine of Aragon too much to be snarky or disparaging to her.


Therefore, I will say only, What if? What if he does what he says he will do.


What if? It all works out as he said it would.


I know it is a million to one chance, but what if it happens?


What would it take for a die-hard NeverTrumper to admit they were wrong?


I cannot think of any scenario where that would ever happen.


All I want from NeverTrump is to say, 'If this happens, then I believe you.'


So far from what I see, there is nothing, nothing at all, that would ever satisfy them.


Trump is bad. I am good. End of story.

[Sanguine]

Well, I respect Catherine of Aragon too much to be snarky or disparaging to her.


Therefore, I will say only, What if? What if he does what he says he will do.


What if? It all works out as he said it would.


I know it is a million to one chance, but what if it happens?


What would it take for a die-hard NeverTrumper to admit they were wrong?


I cannot think of any scenario where that would ever happen.


All I want from NeverTrump is to say, 'If this happens, then I believe you.'


So far from what I see, there is nothing, nothing at all, that would ever satisfy them.


Trump is bad. I am good. End of story.

Well, I'm not a never-Trumper, but if he actually does hald of what he said he would (the good half, that is), I will give him the credit he deserves.  Well, either way, I'll give him the credit he earns.

[Silver Pines]

Well, I respect Catherine of Aragon too much to be snarky or disparaging to her.


Therefore, I will say only, What if? What if he does what he says he will do.


What if? It all works out as he said it would.


I know it is a million to one chance, but what if it happens?


What would it take for a die-hard NeverTrumper to admit they were wrong?


I cannot think of any scenario where that would ever happen.


All I want from NeverTrump is to say, 'If this happens, then I believe you.'


So far from what I see, there is nothing, nothing at all, that would ever satisfy them.


Trump is bad. I am good. End of story.

@240B, I'm not snarking specifically at you.  Were you always a Trump supporter or did you decide to vote for him later on?  I honestly can't remember.

And don't hesitate to slap me back if I get out of line.

Actually, on the morning after the election, I pinged some of the Trump supporters here and told them I was wrong about Trump's chances, and I congratulated them.  I believe two of them were gracious enough to respond.

If Trump does good things, I'll step right up and give him credit.  If he messes up, I'll note that, too.  Look, I'm not going to lie and say I like him.  I don't.  I never have. I know too much about his sleazy past and I saw too much of that quality in action during the primaries and the general election.  And while I hope he does well, I don't really expect it.  It's rare for men of low character to improve when power is handed to them.

On the off chance that it does refine him, however, then great. 

[skeeter]

That's simply not true.

We all know that Rush was pulling for Trump, but he NOT ONCE, ever reported or stated anything in the way of an endorsement, prior to the Convention.

He said TODAY that he 'knew' more than a year ago, that "Trump could possibly win this.....", but as a caller reminded us all today...

Even though we know where Rush's ideology falls, he NEVER lets that sway his conclusions when he states his POV on a matter or event.

IOW, he does what the everyday journalist did, Lord knows, how many eons ago...He REPORTED, without giving away his political leanings.   That's a foreign concept today.

One need look no further than the dean of the Limbaugh University for Advanced Conservative Studies defense of Trump's proposed 1 trillion stimulus plan. "It'll be different this time."

Trump will be better than Hillary but anyone buying what Rush is selling is asking to be made a fool of.

[Cripplecreek]

That's a great big beautiful wal.............Wait a minute. That's no wall!

[Silver Pines]

That's a great big beautiful wal.............Wait a minute. That's no wall!

Lol

[chae]

Yeah, Rush really earned his "Presidntial knee-pads" today.

[corbe]

@240B

But so many of his hardcore fans took it all as gospel.

Regardless, I expect most of them will attempt to justify it, as you're doing here, every time he backs away from those promises he made....at least publically, in order to save face.  Privately, some of them will be furious that they fell for his schtick. 

   By the first midterms they'll all be saying "I never trusted Trump, I was a Cruzer the whole way!!!"

[jmyrlefuller]

   By the first midterms they'll all be saying "I never trusted Trump, I was a Cruzer the whole way!!!"

Don't get your hopes up. They might do that the day after the 2020 elections, though—after he either loses or goes full lame-duck the same way GWB did.

[DCPatriot]

Don't get your hopes up. They might do that the day after the 2020 elections, though—after he either loses or goes full lame-duck the same way GWB did.

You're willfully blind, or haven't learned a thing the past nineteen months.   

[roamer_1]

I just wonder how many years it will be before his supporters realize it.

(I'm pessimistic.  I think they die and only recognize it when judged.  And even then, many will probably choose hell rather than admit error and recant.)

sooner or later, chaffing curbs masturbatory zeal... Jussayin'

[Hoodat]

Gingrich told NPR's "Morning Edition" that he was told Trump “now says [the phrase] was cute, but he doesn’t want to use it anymore.”....

By February, we will hear:

Trump now says [pretending to be a Conservative] was cute, but he doesn’t want to do it anymore.”....

[Cripplecreek]

Lol

That's no wall.

[Idiot]

This is why I voted for the man who told the truth whether I liked what I was hearing or not.

@Cripplecreek
 

[240B]

   By the first midterms they'll all be saying "I never trusted Trump, I was a Cruzer the whole way!!!"

Funny fact, I was a Cruz supporter the whole way. It is just that 'reality' got in the way of what was, and what I wanted it to be.


I agree with you, to the extent that I am able to agree with you.

[Smokin Joe]

Very predictable responses, from very predictable people.


Say what you want of me. But I still have confidence that all of you are going to be pleasantly surprised. Hell, he has already done more to 'drain the swamp' just with his cabinet picks than Bush/Obama did in eight years.


But, none the less, carry on with your hate-fest. Please don't let me interrupt.
I already know that nothing will ever change your mind.

Frankly, If you're happy with his abdication of his promises, well, how you feel is up to you.

Please don't mind if the rest of us notice that he is not exactly living up to his promises, walking back his seminal positions during the campaign.

Now, he isn't sworn in yet, so I'll give him some time, but the only really fair standards (besides the ones those of us who didn't support him in the first place might impose), are how he performs those acts he promised to perform. He wrote that standard, himself.

Saying he is better than Hillary would have been, ignores the fact that she isn't, won't, can't, and that is speculation anyway. So all that is left is what he does compared to what he said he'd do.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Is there any bigger swamp creature than than Newt?

[Bigun]

Beautiful! And perfectly accurate!

@Machiavelli

[Idiot]

Frankly, If you're happy with his abdication of his promises, well, how you feel is up to you.

Please don't mind if the rest of us notice that he is not exactly living up to his promises, walking back his seminal positions during the campaign.

Now, he isn't sworn in yet, so I'll give him some time, but the only really fair standards (besides the ones those of us who didn't support him in the first place might impose), are how he performs those acts he promised to perform. He wrote that standard, himself.

Saying he is better than Hillary would have been, ignores the fact that she isn't, won't, can't, and that is speculation anyway. So all that is left is what he does compared to what he said he'd do.

@Smokin Joe
 

[Hoodat]

And don't hesitate to slap me back if I get out of line.