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Anyone Who Reads About Russian Hacks And Donald Trump Should Read This First

Posted By Rachel Stoltzfoos On 4:55 PM 12/19/2016

The reports on the intelligence community’s (IC) alleged conclusion that Russia wanted President-elect Donald Trump to win the election have been, in a word, schizophrenic. They’re also drawing on some odd sourcing.

The Washington Post broke the story, reporting the CIA concluded it was Russia’s “goal” to elect Trump by interfering in the election, rather than a more general plan to undermine the legitimacy of the election. The New York Times followed with reports stating the CIA concluded with “high confidence” that electing Trump was the “primary aim” of Russia’s covert campaign.

These reports fueled the Democrat narrative that Trump is too cozy with Putin and that his win is tainted, and a round of headlines reporting the FBI now “agrees” with the CIA have added fuel to the fire. But a closer look at the reporting shows it’s actually not clear what exactly the CIA concluded regarding Russia’s motives, or what the FBI’s assessment of the motive is. And it’s important to note from the outset that neither the FBI nor the CIA has commented on any of these reports.

The problems and the questions with the storyline fall into three basic distinctions: intent, sourcing and timeline.

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Good article.  They asked the right questions.

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These reports fueled the Democrat narrative that Trump is too cozy with Putin and that his win is tainted, and a round of headlines reporting the FBI now “agrees” with the CIA have added fuel to the fire. But a closer look at the reporting shows it’s actually not clear what exactly the CIA concluded regarding Russia’s motives, or what the FBI’s assessment of the motive is. And it’s important to note from the outset that neither the FBI nor the CIA has commented on any of these reports.

1. It's not clear to anyone without a security clearance.
2. It's policy not to comment on classified information (ever heard the term "We can neither confirm nor deny <fill in the blank>"?).

Stupid article.

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These reports fueled the Democrat narrative that Trump is too cozy with Putin and that his win is tainted, and a round of headlines reporting the FBI now “agrees” with the CIA have added fuel to the fire. But a closer look at the reporting shows it’s actually not clear what exactly the CIA concluded regarding Russia’s motives, or what the FBI’s assessment of the motive is. And it’s important to note from the outset that neither the FBI nor the CIA has commented on any of these reports.

1. It's not clear to anyone without a security clearance.
2. It's policy not to comment on classified information (ever heard the term "We can neither confirm nor deny <fill in the blank>"?).

Stupid article.

It seems that all the intel agencies agree that Russia was up to something but they don't agree about what they were doing.

Democrats are clouding the issue by trying to use it to explain her loss and the republicans have happily latched onto it as a reason why it shouldn't be taken seriously.

I do know that I and many others complained loudly and often about all the Russian trolls harassing anyone opposed to Trump throughout the primaries.  From my experience it looked like Russians and eastern Europeans made up the bulk of the alt right.

Donald Trump's Instagram Following Is Full Of Bots And Russians  http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/11/07/25000-russians-follow-trump-instagram-bots-everywhere/#7ae5db977128


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If the Russians did anything how is it any different than obama spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and defeat Netanayu?
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If the Russians did anything how is it any different than obama spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and defeat Netanayu?

That's a great point.

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That's a great point.

How?

Everything wrong thing Obama did, we should have done to us?

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How?

Everything wrong thing Obama did, we should have done to us?

No, did I imply that? 

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How?

Everything wrong thing Obama did, we should have done to us?

If the Russians did anything of note it's more than ironic that the party affected by it was the same party that did that very thing to someone else. Now they cry about foreign interference in an election, gimmie a break.

At most the Russians got a hold of some emails that were then leaked. They didn't alter any vote tabulation. The only vote irregularities found were in Detroit where more votes were counted than there were ballots. The big untouched area of election tampering was the illegal aliens that voted, but we can't touch that because this is a big benefit to the Rats.
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