Evidence Obama birth certificate 'fake' heading to Congress

[Emjay]

Effort better spent convicting Clinton.

Unfortunately Trump has made it clear that he's not interested in that so we need a new distraction.

Convicting Clinton would be good but Hillary is more done than a steak forgotten on the grill.  She's already discredited and the most disliked candidate in History.  Probably the only one Trump could beat.  I will get little satisfaction out of convicting her.  Her life is pretty much over.

It is not a 'distraction' to continue to investigate Obama on any relevant issues and to do so without fear of being called a racist or whatever.  There is a reason the 'birther' thing hasn't gone away.  It's never been thoroughly investigated. 

I would much rather discredit Obama at this point than worry about poor old Hillary.

[the_doc]

@the_doc

How many people of any generation do you think  know the truth about King Franklin and his cousin/wife? Or JFK and LBJ,as far as that goes? Everybody THINKS JFK is a hero,and the truth is he was a slacker bum derelict in his duty,and the Navy wanted to court-martial him for the dereliction of duty that lead to his PT boat being ran over by the Japanese destroyer and sunk,with some of his men dying or being injured? His father,a VERY rich and politically-connected pol that King Franklin fired as the Ambassador of the Court of St.James because Churchill found out he was giving military information to the IRA to be sent to the Germans. Churchill had PROOF that old man Joe Kennedy was a traitor during war time,and what happened to him? Nothing,other than being fired,is the correct answer. How many people even know he was fired?

Or that his cousin-wife invited the college professors suspected of being Soviet Agents to the very first Senate Un-American Activities  hearings to stay at the White House with her while they were in town? These communist agents would spend the night at the White House,get up in the morning to eat breakfast there with the Roosevelt's,and then ride to the hearings in a WH limo with SS bodyguards to sit in there and plead the 5th Amendment to every question asked of them,and then laugh at us being so weak we weren't even allow to prosecute the enemies that were trying to destroy us.

Eleanor Roosevelt even had a photo posted on the front page of the Washington Post that showed her sitting behind the defendants table and knitting while they were laughing at our system,and when the reporter asked her why she was there afterwards,quoted her as saying "To show solidarity with them." Again,NONE of that was a secret because it was on the front page of the Washington Post.

How many people know that the Silver Star LBJ received during WW-2 was a bogus one he got because he was a congressman and he put himself in for it? The Navy quietly took it back (in the 80's,IIRC) AFTER LBJ had died and couldn't punish them for doing so. Come to find out,and the Navy KNEW this at the time,that his "valorous act" consisted of being a passenger in a passenger aircraft that was attacked by Japanese fighter pilots. The passenger plane (a DC-3/DC-4/c-46/c-47) was full of brass on the Pacific staff,so they had an escort of P-51 Mustangs that pretty much shredded the Zero's.

Not to mention John Wayne Kerry's bogus Silver Star and purple hearts that he put  himself in for,or him writing in his bio book about machinegunning unarmed civilians in VN.

And NONE of this is even remotely secret.

Do you REALLY think the typical 'murikan fan of Bathhouse Barry is going to give a damn about a little thing like election fraud from "'Murikas first black prezidint"?

And what would happen if they did? The correct answer is "nothing".

Like I was saying in my response to Applewood, doing NOTHING is not an option.  We have been doing nothing for 8 years.  How about a military trial for Obama? 

[sneakypete]

Like I was saying in my response to Applewood, doing NOTHING is not an option.  We have been doing nothing for 8 years.  How about a military trial for Obama?

@the_doc

Have you lost your freaking mind? The US Military does NOT get involved in politics.

[the_doc]

@the_doc

Have you lost your freaking mind? The US Military does NOT get involved in politics.

Come on, snarkypete.  Try again.

[sneakypete]

Come on, snarkypete.  Try again.

@the_doc

I don't have to try again. I got it right the first time.

[TomSea]

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It is a Russian piece of propaganda, completely fake.  But it's Russian, and it hits the tropes that Trump's core constituencies love and *already* believe.

Then why does Israel love Trump which they do?

Someone is playing the race card and sounds like a Democrat.

 

[txradioguy]

Then why does Israel love Trump which they do?

Someone is playing the race card and sounds like a Democrat.

 

I haven't seen any evidence that they "love" Trump.  But then compared to how they've been treated the last 8 years by the current administration...anything is an improvement.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Like I was saying in my response to Applewood, doing NOTHING is not an option.  We have been doing nothing for 8 years.  How about a military trial for Obama?

Haha yeah. What an idiotic response. A military trial for a former President. That would make the US no better than Venezuela or the Congo.


You really have to wonder about the intelligence level around here. It's sorely lacking at times (often).

[sneakypete]

I haven't seen any evidence that they "love" Trump.  But then compared to how they've been treated the last 8 years by the current administration...anything is an improvement.

@txradioguy

That's one thing that is a genuine puzzlement for me. There can be no question in the mind of any sane American that the Dims OWN the Jewish vote,or that the majority of Jews are politically oriented to  leftism as far as American politics go,even if they are uber-right when it comes to Israeli politics.

As you mentioned,the Dims have been screwing Israel for the last 8 years,and there has been barely a whisper of complaint from the mostly Jewish-controlled media. You would think they would be screaming "Anti-Semite!" from the rooftops,and they WOULD be if there had been a Republican President treating Israel this way. Yet we have a black President that grew up as a Muslim doing this,and don't hear a whisper of discontent.

I don't have a clue how this happens and the DNC gets away with it,but they do.

[jmyrlefuller]

Convicting Clinton would be good but Hillary is more done than a steak forgotten on the grill.  She's already discredited and the most disliked candidate in History.  Probably the only one Trump could beat.  I will get little satisfaction out of convicting her.  Her life is pretty much over.

It is not a 'distraction' to continue to investigate Obama on any relevant issues and to do so without fear of being called a racist or whatever.  There is a reason the 'birther' thing hasn't gone away.  It's never been thoroughly investigated. 

I would much rather discredit Obama at this point than worry about poor old Hillary.

The thing I have to ask is this: What can be gained from it?

All of the laws Obama signed will still be law. All of the money spent during his administration will still be spent. The damage has already been done. Furthermore, it's not like we haven't heard these things when he was campaigning; the vast majority of people simply refused to believe it, and as 2016 showed, even irrefutable proof will be refuted in the eyes of the public.

All anyone gets out of it is a talking point against a term-limited ex-president, and maybe some vindication for the same crowd that embraces the 9/11 truth movement and thinks Ted Cruz's dad was involved in killing JFK—is that really what we want?

[Sanguine]

He's not going away, folks:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,238419.0/topicseen.html

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

That's one thing that is a genuine puzzlement for me. There can be no question in the mind of any sane American that the Dims OWN the Jewish vote,or that the majority of Jews are politically oriented to  leftism as far as American politics go,even if they are uber-right when it comes to Israeli politics.

As you mentioned,the Dims have been screwing Israel for the last 8 years,and there has been barely a whisper of complaint from the mostly Jewish-controlled media. You would think they would be screaming "Anti-Semite!" from the rooftops,and they WOULD be if there had been a Republican President treating Israel this way. Yet we have a black President that grew up as a Muslim doing this,and don't hear a whisper of discontent.

I don't have a clue how this happens and the DNC gets away with it,but they do.

People have a long history of voting against their own self interest.  As Mark Levin calls them...they are self hating Jews.  Just like there were blacks who fought for the South in the Civil War...American who helped the NAZI's in WWII and even Jews who turned in their own people in the same war.  You will always have a section of any culture or race that does exactly the opposite of what they should do.

Specifically to the Liberal Jews in and out of political circles that feel more sympathy towards the PLO than they do Israel...you have to remember that Liberalism trumps everything...even religion.

[Cripplecreek]

People have a long history of voting against their own self interest.  As Mark Levin calls them...they are self hating Jews.  Just like there were blacks who fought for the South in the Civil War...American who helped the NAZI's in WWII and even Jews who turned in their own people in the same war.  You will always have a section of any culture or race that does exactly the opposite of what they should do.

Specifically to the Liberal Jews in and out of political circles that feel more sympathy towards the PLO than they do Israel...you have to remember that Liberalism trumps everything...even religion.

Voting against one's own personal best interest can be good if you're voting for something bigger and better than yourself.

My liberal sister is absolutely dumbfounded by me. I live below the poverty line but refuse to accept state help and I vote very conservative. I have the standard conservative belief that less taxes and less government are my path to prosperity. However she is also voting against her best interests because she is a liberal married to a 6 figure earning liberal.

[Sanguine]

People have a long history of voting against their own self interest.  As Mark Levin calls them...they are self hating Jews.  Just like there were blacks who fought for the South in the Civil War...American who helped the NAZI's in WWII and even Jews who turned in their own people in the same war.  You will always have a section of any culture or race that does exactly the opposite of what they should do.

Specifically to the Liberal Jews in and out of political circles that feel more sympathy towards the PLO than they do Israel...you have to remember that Liberalism trumps everything...even religion.

Leftism IS a religion.

[the_doc]

Haha yeah. What an idiotic response. A military trial for a former President. That would make the US no better than Venezuela or the Congo.


You really have to wonder about the intelligence level around here. It's sorely lacking at times (often).

I don't think some of you guys have grasped the gravity of the situation.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I don't think some of you guys have grasped the gravity of the situation.

Personal insult removed.

[Emjay]

The thing I have to ask is this: What can be gained from it?

All of the laws Obama signed will still be law. All of the money spent during his administration will still be spent. The damage has already been done. Furthermore, it's not like we haven't heard these things when he was campaigning; the vast majority of people simply refused to believe it, and as 2016 showed, even irrefutable proof will be refuted in the eyes of the public.

All anyone gets out of it is a talking point against a term-limited ex-president, and maybe some vindication for the same crowd that embraces the 9/11 truth movement and thinks Ted Cruz's dad was involved in killing JFK—is that really what we want?

Oh, please.  I'm relatively sure that Ted Cruz's dad has no involvement in JFK.  That is a totally weird and unwarranted conspiracy theory.

I don't think you can relate the question of Barack Obama's background and eligibility to that in any way, shape or form.

And I don't claim to know that much about Obama's background.  Well, nobody does.  Everything about him and his past has been covered up for some reason.  We don't know anyone who knew him at Harvard ...we don't know anything about his grades there.  We don't know why Bill Ayres chose him or wrote a book for him.

He was our president for 8 years and we don't know.  If he was actually planning to ride off into the sunset and grow pineapples or something, I wouldn't care.  He's not.  He wants to have a big influence in the government and it won't be for good.

I have to see people I consider sane post the picture of the Obama family with the same kind of adoration and awe once reserved for the Pope.

Yes, I would like to discredit him if it's possible.

No, I don't think it's a silly, vindictive thing to do.

All I'm saying is why not investigate?

[Maj. Bill Martin]

The thing I have to ask is this: What can be gained from it?

Nothing except personal satisfaction for some individuals for whom this has been a pet issue for nearly a decade.  Otherwise, it'll just look like validation of racism in the GOP.

LET IT GO.  It was a loser issue the moment someone found that birth announcement in that newspaper.

[Cripplecreek]

Nothing except personal satisfaction for some individuals for whom this has been a pet issue for nearly a decade.  Otherwise, it'll just look like validation of racism in the GOP.

LET IT GO.  It was a loser issue the moment someone found that birth announcement in that newspaper.

I was one of the original birthers and I walked away from it when it became obvious that the left were sending trolls to infect the movement and use it to attack republicans during elections. (Demanding GOP candidates support the issue or else) I also never believed Obama would be removed even if he were found to be ineligible and that had become a misguided focus.

Simple fact is that nobody did more to kill the issue than birthers themselves.

[sneakypete]

Leftism IS a religion.

@Sanguine

Yes,it is.

[sneakypete]

.... I also never believed Obama would be removed even if he were found to be ineligible and that had become a misguided focus.

@Cripplecreek

Obomber could have raped a white pre-teen boy live on national tv,and he wouldn't have been removed from office. He was the "first black president" AND a Dim president,and that make him untouchable.

Look at Bubba. He was accused of raping several women while either the Governor of Arkansas or the President of the US,and DID have a young female aid give him some "aid" while in the Oval/Oral office,and then he got caught lying about it while under oath to a federal grand jury. What happened to him? NOTHING is the right answer.

Some pigs are more equal than other pigs,and no pig is more equal than a Dim pig.

[INVAR]

I don't think some of you guys have grasped the gravity of the situation.

On the contrary, we have grasped the gravity of your suggestion - and reject it completely.

Most of us do not want a dictatorship that some Trump folks are actually pushing for.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I was one of the original birthers and I walked away from it when it became obvious that the left were sending trolls to infect the movement and use it to attack republicans during elections. (Demanding GOP candidates support the issue or else) I also never believed Obama would be removed even if he were found to be ineligible and that had become a misguided focus.

Simple fact is that nobody did more to kill the issue than birthers themselves.

Agree 100%

[Maj. Bill Martin]

No, I don't think it's a silly, vindictive thing to do.

All I'm saying is why not investigate?

Because there would appear to be no purpose to the investigation other than vindictiveness.  Heck, you basically admitted that yourself:

Yes, I would like to discredit him if it's possible.

Ultimately, there was enough gray in this issue that it was something left up to voters to decide for themselves, and they twice elected the guy.  Even if it were possible to prove after the fact that "oops, he wasn't really born here...", so what?  That's just a factual dispute, not a moral or legal one.

[Sanguine]

Because there would appear to be no purpose to the investigation other than vindictiveness.  Heck, you basically admitted that yourself:

Ultimately, there was enough gray in this issue that it was something left up to voters to decide for themselves, and they twice elected the guy.  Even if it were possible to prove after the fact that "oops, he wasn't really born here...", so what?  That's just a factual dispute, not a moral or legal one.

That's not what she said at all.

There's some very good reasons to discredit 0bama and lessen his ability to continue to influence the course of our nation.