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Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« on: December 13, 2016, 05:38:01 pm »

Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson

It could take only three Republicans to sink him, and Marco Rubio, John McCain and Lindsey Graham have all been critical.

By Burgess Everett

12/13/16 11:27 Am

Donald Trump is daring a fight with the Republican Senate with his nomination of ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson, and his confirmation is far from a sure thing.

But barring new revelations about Tillerson's past and connections with Russia, there are early indications that Trump will prevail. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he "looks forward to supporting" Tillerson, and several members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee sounded positive notes about the nomination after it became official.

Still, Trump and Tillerson will have little margin for error. GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Marco Rubio of Florida and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina have all reacted critically to Tillerson's business ties to Russia. It would only take three Republicans to sink him, if Democrats all voted no.

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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2016, 05:48:24 pm »
Speaking as a never trumper...... I gotta say i am pleased with his cabinet picks.   Plesantly surprised and encouraged
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2016, 06:30:54 pm »
Quote from: kjam22 on December 13, 2016, 05:48:24 pm
Speaking as a never trumper...... I gotta say i am pleased with his cabinet picks.   Plesantly surprised and encouraged

   @kjam22    I too, am pleasantly surprised and encouraged by most of his picks so far, but Tillerson seems proof positive that espousing American ideals such as Freedom, Liberty and Justice around the World has been replaced by 'The Art of the Deal'.
    I  want 'warmer' relations with Putin, particularly in the fight against Radical Islam he can prove to be a worthy ally, but not at the expense of the US overlooking the evil that this Man truly is.

    Guess all we can do is wait and see.

 
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 07:15:48 pm »
Trump and his government are going to be a complete disaster
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 07:21:31 pm »
Quote from: kjam22 on December 13, 2016, 05:48:24 pm
Speaking as a never trumper...... I gotta say i am pleased with his cabinet picks.   Plesantly surprised and encouraged

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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 07:23:41 pm »
Quote from: geronl on December 13, 2016, 07:15:48 pm
Trump and his government are going to be a complete disaster

I see Tillerson supports carbon taxes and believes in global warming.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 07:26:09 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on December 13, 2016, 07:23:41 pm
I see Tillerson supports carbon taxes and believes in global warming.

and gays in the Boy Scouts
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 09:10:55 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on December 13, 2016, 05:38:01 pm
Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson

It could take only three Republicans to sink him, and Marco Rubio, John McCain and Lindsey Graham have all been critical.

By Burgess Everett

12/13/16 11:27 Am

Donald Trump is daring a fight with the Republican Senate with his nomination of ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson, and his confirmation is far from a sure thing.

But barring new revelations about Tillerson's past and connections with Russia, there are early indications that Trump will prevail. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he "looks forward to supporting" Tillerson, and several members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee sounded positive notes about the nomination after it became official.

Still, Trump and Tillerson will have little margin for error. GOP Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Marco Rubio of Florida and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina have all reacted critically to Tillerson's business ties to Russia. It would only take three Republicans to sink him, if Democrats all voted no.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/rex-tillerson-gop-opposition-trump-232556

Does the Kennedy guy from LA count in on this??
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 09:40:32 pm »
Quote from: Longiron on December 13, 2016, 09:10:55 pm
Does the Kennedy guy from LA count in on this??

   Trump and Pence both campaigned for the ex-democrap, so I'm sure he's fully on board with anything Trump does.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 10:59:35 pm »
Its not even Jan 20th and the Trump Train is circling the wagons.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2016, 12:45:31 am »
Tillerson isn't looking so good the more we get to know him.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2016, 01:35:09 am »
And if they call his bluff then what?

Verbal taunts and name calling on Twitter?
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2016, 01:56:13 am »
Quote from: corbe on December 13, 2016, 06:30:54 pm
   @kjam22    I too, am pleasantly surprised and encouraged by most of his picks so far, but Tillerson seems proof positive that espousing American ideals such as Freedom, Liberty and Justice around the World has been replaced by 'The Art of the Deal'.

Me three on the cabinet picks overall.

I'm not bothered by any prior positive interactions between Tillerson and Putin, nor do I expect Tillerson to agree with me on everything.

However governing is not deal-making, nor is statecraft.  If neither the POTUS nor the SECSTATE have any experience in formulating foreign policy, we have a problem.  While I generally think the PEOTUS deserves significant deference in cabinet appointments, I'm looking for some R Senators to hold this bar high.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2016, 02:36:34 am »
Of Trump's cabinet picks that the Senate will have to agree to; I'm not so impressed!  The Goldman Sachs duo selection is concerning.  DeVos for Secy' Education has been applauded by Jeb; Mr. Common Core himself, so I find her appointment troubling.  He appointed Carson, a neurosurgeon to HUD which makes absolutely no sense.  Then we have Haley as ambassador to the UN with virtually no experience.  McConnell's wife has also been appointed to his cabinet; all I can say is that was a total liberal surprise and IMHO the concerns surrounding Tillerson and Russian ties are justified. Nope, not impressed at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-administration-appointee-tracker/
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2016, 02:40:55 am »
Quote from: libertybele on December 14, 2016, 02:36:34 am
Of the 16 of 21 cabinet picks that the Senate will have to agree to; I'm not so impressed!  The Goldman Sachs duo selection is concerning.  DeVos for Secy' Education has been applauded by Jeb; Mr. Common Core himself, so I find her appointment troubling.  He appointed Carson, a neurosurgeon to HUD which makes absolutely no sense.  Then we have Haley as ambassador to the UN with virtually no experience.  McConnell's wife has also been appointed to his cabinet; all I can say is that was a total liberal surprise and IMHO the concerns surrounding Tillerson and Russian ties are justified. Nope, not impressed at all.

The DeVos family isn't well known among the general public outside of Michigan but they are very well known inside the beltway. Betsy DeVos has a history with the RNC and her family has some defense contracting history. Her brother Erik Prince is the founder of Blackwater.

Probably more connected to DC than Rona Romney.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2016, 02:52:03 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on December 14, 2016, 02:40:55 am
The DeVos family isn't well known among the general public outside of Michigan but they are very well known inside the beltway. Betsy DeVos has a history with the RNC and her family has some defense contracting history. Her brother Erik Prince is the founder of Blackwater.

Probably more connected to DC than Rona Romney.

   Her past statements and ties to Common Core bothered the Trump team enough to make her publicly repudiate that at his last rally there. It may be a positive here, the way I see it.

   Michigan has a lot of space in the GOP and Trumps head.
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2016, 03:41:43 am »
Quote from: kjam22 on December 13, 2016, 05:48:24 pm
Speaking as a never trumper...... I gotta say i am pleased with his cabinet picks.   Plesantly surprised and encouraged

Completely agree!   :beer:
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2016, 03:44:18 am »
Rex Tillerson is a fine man and will easily be confirmed!
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2016, 03:53:12 am »
Quote from: Bigun on December 14, 2016, 03:44:18 am
Rex Tillerson is a fine man and will easily be confirmed!

@Bigun, is his drive to allow gay leaders in the Boy Scouts, support of planned parenthood, and support for the Paris accord being misreported?  I sure hope so.
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2016, 03:54:44 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on December 14, 2016, 03:53:12 am
@Bigun, is his drive to allow great leaders in the Boy Scouts, support of planned parenthood, and support for the Paris accord being misreported?  I sure hope so.

IMHO yes!  Grossly!
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Re: Trump dares GOP Senate to reject Tillerson
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2016, 03:59:36 am »
Quote from: Bigun on December 14, 2016, 03:54:44 am
IMHO yes!  Grossly!

Like I said on another thread....  (On Rex' watch)

(1)  The XTO acquisition is considered the worst move by an Exxon CEO since the Valdez response.

(2) 38% worse stock performance vs. CVX in the past year?

(3) Lost AAA S & P rating after 50+ years?

Rex leaving may be the best thing ever to happen to my XOM stock.

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