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Did Federal, Presidential high level leaders know ahead of time Pearl Harbor was coming; had set it up to happen; insured it happened?

Absolutely. The historical evidence is exceedingly conclusive from  multiple sources
3 (11.1%)
Nonsense. Totally fabricated conspiracy hogwash with absolutely no foundation in fact
21 (77.8%)
I believe it was at about the 80-95% level. It's horrible to admit it but the evidence is there.
2 (7.4%)
I think there may be a 5-15% chance a lot of it was set-up and insured to happen but I don't want to face such a horrible probability.
1 (3.7%)
Indeed. The globalist oligarchy has been ruthlessly at work a long time.
0 (0%)

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Anyone trying to judge/ascribe/interrupt the past by today's standards whether mainstream  or "alternative" are dead wrong in my opinion. We live today...

You make it sound as though there's no congruence between humans, societies, politics of today and times in history.

I fiercely disagree.

People are people.

People are people over the whole globe. Cultures can shape the expressions of our humanness a great deal--but the basic needs, desires, drives, pride, anger, selfishness, greed, etc. have always been there and still are. They are driving the train--still. The rest is details--window dressing--whitewash on the exterior.

The major difference for our era--and it is a big difference in scope--is the degree to which the many hundreds of years of lucifer and his globalist stooges have overt control has expanded exponentially compared to 200, 1,000, 2,000 years ago. Their degree of tyrannical monitoring and control of each individual under their control has expanded exponentially. THAT IS different.

Comparisons with past eras can be enlightening on such scores . . . both in terms of the evils that await--a la Babylon--a fuller overt manifestation on the world stage of their overt control . . . and in terms of in terms of the resulting consequences for individuals and families.

I think both are worth learning all we can about. And, I think that history can be quite helpful in that educational pursuit.

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No.

You might do yourself a favor and read DAY OF DECEIT

--or at least Amazon's blurb about it, posted now below.There were at least 8 conclusively proven STEPS taken to insure it happened. It was deliberately calculated and set-up at the highest levels.
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The fallacy of hindsight bias.


Did you read the recently posted not far below blurb from Amazon about the well researched book: DAY OF DECEIT?

There were 8 conclusively proven steps that the top leaders calculated, planned, set-up and implemented to insure that Pearl Harbor happened exactly as it did.
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I guess I disagree.  I believe NY City and Wash D.C. will similarly be set-up and destroyed. Which other cities will be included are less easy to predict.  Certainly likely candidates are: Atlanta, Boston, Philadelphia, Houston, Albuquerque, Phoenix, Las Vegas,  San Diego, LA San Francisco Portland Seattle.  They may have exotic protections over Albuquerque. I don't think they will support the wholesale destruction of Denver because they evidently intend to use it as the new US Capital.   I don't know what they'll do with Dallas. Dallas/Ft Worth are easy enough targets. 
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Quix, you missed one of the most important targets because you and others don't know about it.  Neither did I until the towers fell in NY and the other attacks that day happened.

I lived not far from this one place, a vital dam our military immediately started guarding after that attack.  I saw military helicopters overhead heading somewhere but I didn't know where.  I found out later, if this dam failed, it would take out all gasoline production in the Houston Ship Channel, gasoline our country depends on.  No need to destroy Houston if this dam goes.  I won't identify the dam. 

I say this because we don't know where other sites are that would cause greater damage than bombing cities.  People can be killed outright, but if vital areas to keep the country going are destroyed, the country will stop functioning and the people die. It would be easier to take over a country if it couldn't function.  Think about these types of areas instead of indiscriminately bombing cities.

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That comes across as quite personally harshly demeaning, assaultive, insulting. That is no longer acceptable. You are welcome to change it. Or, I will.

Feel free to change it to whatever agrees with your point of view 22222frying pan


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I only got a 45, but I'm guessing my complete and utter lack of devotion to the swill Hollywood puts out must have figured in. I'll just stay in my bubble with my magazines and books. Furthermore it is NOT my fault waffle house hasn't put a location up in my neck of the woods and the local tex mex hang out isn't on the list.  :laugh:
Interesting concept though, thanks for posting it @Quix

I got a 38 but I don't watch much TV either anymore and I wish I lived near a Waffle House.

Some of the questions were just skewered badly, I got four out of five branches of service but it said one or none- or all five. The restaurants near me are mom and pop. Where are books on here? Watching Netflix instead of going to the movies?

Watching baseball or football games? I get points off because I don't drink? I've lived within a 30 mile radius of my college my entire life?

Weird and skewed.
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Quix, you missed one of the most important targets because you and others don't know about it.  Neither did I until the towers fell in NY and the other attacks that day happened.

I lived not far from this one place, a vital dam our military immediately started guarding after that attack.  I saw military helicopters overhead heading somewhere but I didn't know where.  I found out later, if this dam failed, it would take out all gasoline production in the Houston Ship Channel, gasoline our country depends on.  No need to destroy Houston if this dam goes.  I won't identify the dam. 

I say this because we don't know where other sites are that would cause greater damage than bombing cities.  People can be killed outright, but if vital areas to keep the country going are destroyed, the country will stop functioning and the people die. It would be easier to take over a country if it couldn't function.  Think about these types of areas instead of indiscriminately bombing cities.

@Victoria33

I'm in a very bad mood. I think I'm far away enough from NY to be safe but I still want the Sweet Meteor of Death to land on top of me.

I'm really not myself tonight, just sick of it all and everything.
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I think you are quite right.

However, I think the oligarchy is a bit more interested in killing people outright--depending on their desired sequence of evil deeds. I had forgotten Houston. I've long felt it was doomed--if not from a tsunami--then from an attack.

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Quix, you missed one of the most important targets because you and others don't know about it.  Neither did I until the towers fell in NY and the other attacks that day happened.

I lived not far from this one place, a vital dam our military immediately started guarding after that attack.  I saw military helicopters overhead heading somewhere but I didn't know where.  I found out later, if this dam failed, it would take out all gasoline production in the Houston Ship Channel, gasoline our country depends on.  No need to destroy Houston if this dam goes.  I won't identify the dam. 

I say this because we don't know where other sites are that would cause greater damage than bombing cities.  People can be killed outright, but if vital areas to keep the country going are destroyed, the country will stop functioning and the people die. It would be easier to take over a country if it couldn't function.  Think about these types of areas instead of indiscriminately bombing cities.
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I say this because we don't know where other sites are that would cause greater damage than bombing cities.  People can be killed outright, but if vital areas to keep the country going are destroyed, the country will stop functioning and the people die. It would be easier to take over a country if it couldn't function.  Think about these types of areas instead of indiscriminately bombing cities.

I do think that they may well go for NYC and DC--and possibly L.A.--first because of the terror, psychological value those icons  would  have for the whole populace.
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Feel free to change it to whatever agrees with your point of view

That's NOT the point.

I've demosntrated from the beginning of this forum that I can characteristically accept, even enjoy and certainly tolerate a ton of rather pointed and hostile disagreement.

I finally realized that the level of raw personalized fiercely hostile, insulting, demeaning evil had gone much too far and a much overdue housecleaning was called for. So be it. I gave a free-er reign a long chance. Enough already yet.

I still prefer thoughtful and civil disagreement. It helps sharpen and refine my own perspectives.

Some may understand
that
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This is not an idle discussion to me
over the back fence.
This is a discussion designed to
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and unnecessary, premature suffering
of individuals, families.
Given that priority, I've been willing to
tolerate a lot of noise on the channel.
I've tolerated a lot of rock
and dagger-throwing
at my tender parts.

But at some point,
that not only
pollutes the discussion disagreeably,
it clouds, muddies and tarnishes
the message intolerably--
because--for me--lives are at stake.

I once privately asked Alamo-Girl what she discerned my major role or calling in the Body of Christ was. She said she'd pray about it. She later came back to me and said: WATCHMAN ON THE WALL.

I knew she was right as The Lord had made that abundantly, even painfully clear, a long time ago.

Not only is Alamo-Girl an extremely brilliant super genius, she's also a very truly authentic Christian of enormous discernment, prayer, knowledge and caring.

= = =

There must be personal respect as persons and preferably as individuals made in God's image with unique gifts and perspectives to offer--worth at least fair-minded consideration--particularly before more in-depth, quality, comprehensive and serious research and investigation.

Most of these topics I've investigated for more than 50 years. I've met with a very surprising number of experts face to face. I'm very confident of the rough outline and basic structure of most of the core facts. There's tons of details that are still up for grabs. But the basics, are not--at least not generally. So I'm rather stubborn about what I've discovered to be true from decades of searching out, sorting, sifting, evaluating. And over that time, my filters have served me well. They have rarely required significant adjustment, as they evolved.

However, details as pointed out--usually by folks who disagreed--have been invaluable refinements, for which  I've been quite thankful.

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@Victoria33

I'm in a very bad mood. I think I'm far away enough from NY to be safe but I still want the Sweet Meteor of Death to land on top of me.

I'm really not myself tonight, just sick of it all and everything.

imho, that's an exceedingly understandable feeling and perspective . . . and, imho, folks who are not familiar with such feelings and such a perspective are terminally uninformed or are willfully not paying attention.

Nevertheless, I pray The Lord helps you out of such a slough of despond as soon as workable.

No doubt loved ones would greatly enjoy you in better spirits.
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I got a 38 but I don't watch much TV either anymore and I wish I lived near a Waffle House.

Some of the questions were just skewered badly, I got four out of five branches of service but it said one or none- or all five. The restaurants near me are mom and pop. Where are books on here? Watching Netflix instead of going to the movies?

Watching baseball or football games? I get points off because I don't drink? I've lived within a 30 mile radius of my college my entire life?

Weird and skewed.

Agreed.

I suspect a rather young, untrained and inexperienced person devised the survey.
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You might do yourself a favor and read DAY OF DECEIT

--or at least Amazon's blurb about it, posted now below.There were at least 8 conclusively proven STEPS taken to insure it happened. It was deliberately calculated and set-up at the highest levels.

@Quix, with all respect to you, I'll do myself a favor by not doing so, thanks.  Conspiracy theories are not my thing.

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imho, that's an exceedingly understandable feeling and perspective . . . and, imho, folks who are not familiar with such feelings and such a perspective are terminally uninformed or are willfully not paying attention.

Nevertheless, I pray The Lord helps you out of such a slough of despond as soon as workable.

No doubt loved ones would greatly enjoy you in better spirits.

I just really miss my dad Quix. It's a bad time of the year to miss him. Everything is reminding me of him and I'm going to bed crying every night.

I guess time will heal it
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@Victoria33

I'm in a very bad mood. I think I'm far away enough from NY to be safe but I still want the Sweet Meteor of Death to land on top of me.

I'm really not myself tonight, just sick of it all and everything.

@Freya, I took some advice from Steve Deace this election season---I just dived into black humor.  God is in control, no matter what, and it really helps to just sit back and have a laugh.  It's not so serious, after all.

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I just really miss my dad Quix. It's a bad time of the year to miss him. Everything is reminding me of him and I'm going to bed crying every night.

I guess time will heal it

@Freya

Oh, you're talking about your dad, not the election...I'm sorry.  The first Thanksgiving and the first Christmas/Hanukkah season without a parent are very hard, I know.  It gets better, I promise.  *Hugs*

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Oh, you're talking about your dad, not the election...I'm sorry.  The first Thanksgiving and the first Christmas/Hanukkah season without a parent are very hard, I know.  It gets better, I promise.  *Hugs*

My sister is going to Florida. If I could walk better I'd go to NYC and hang out there. Go look at the tree and skate at Rockefeller Plaza.,
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@Quix, with all respect to you, I'll do myself a favor by not doing so, thanks.  Conspiracy theories are not my thing.

Uhhhhhhhhhh . . . Ohhhhhhh Kay!

. . . a bit curious . . . on such a thread . . . but OK.
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I just really miss my dad Quix. It's a bad time of the year to miss him. Everything is reminding me of him and I'm going to bed crying every night.

I guess time will heal it
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Welllllllll, FWIW . . . I envy you a bit having had such a relationship with such a wonderful Dad.

That's been a huge troubled gaping hole in my life for virtually all of my 70 years.

Welllllllll, may you treasure many memories as a warming existential cup of hot chocolate etc. deep in your soul.

May God wrap you in His big arms and leave you feeling very cared for and protected as you must have with your Dad.

Blessings,
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Uhhhhhhhhhh . . . Ohhhhhhh Kay!

. . . a bit curious . . . on such a thread . . . but OK.


@Quix

Not really.  I clicked into this thread to see what was being discussed, but it doesn't follow that I'd necessarily be interested in further research.  My opinion is what it is.

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@Quix

Not really.  I clicked into this thread to see what was being discussed, but it doesn't follow that I'd necessarily be interested in further research.  My opinion is what it is.

OK. Thanks for clarifying.
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@Quix

Not really.  I clicked into this thread to see what was being discussed, but it doesn't follow that I'd necessarily be interested in further research.  My opinion is what it is.

Don't fret.  That boy trixquix ain't right. 

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My sister is going to Florida. If I could walk better I'd go to NYC and hang out there. Go look at the tree and skate at Rockefeller Plaza.,

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That would be so much fun.

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Don't fret.  That boy trixquix ain't right.

But he is correct.
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Don't fret.  That boy trixquix ain't right. 

This time, I will pretend that you meant this one way . . . and ignore the way you most likely meant it.
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