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Because Trump's essential appeal is to hatred and despair; that's how he got the nomination and the election.

His appeal "was" to hatred. Past tense. The campaign is not the governing. Historically there is a very pronounced demarcation between the tone and manner of the behavior of the campaign and that displayed while governing.

Surely someone as clearly learned and well-studied at you would know that, sieur!

Isn't it also ironic to some degree, that those who complain about Trump using hatred as a strategic tool during the campaign are now employing the same to stultify and damage his reputation  - and apparently without a trace of misgiving or remorse. Interesting.
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I quote the part I am replying to. WTH should I cut and past stuff I have no interest in responding to?

Because you are changing the meaning of my words.  Selective omission is as damaging as selective addition.

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His appeal "was" to hatred. Past tense. The campaign is not the governing. Historically there is a very pronounced demarcation between the tone and manner of the behavior of the campaign and that displayed while governing.

Surely someone as clearly learned and well-studied at you would know that, sieur!

Isn't it also ironic to some degree, that those who complain about Trump using hatred as a strategic tool during the campaign are now employing the same to stultify and damage his reputation  - and apparently without a trace of misgiving or remorse. Interesting.

Do unto others... and all that.

Trump led the way on how he wants to *BE* treated... by doing so to others.

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Yeah,it was the Biddies that were all hot and bothered over Trump that had the lust-fest known as "A Day in the Life of George Bush" on FR,huh? Remember them discussing how "hot" he looked "in those tight jeans" while pretending to cut brush?

Ok. Hitting the bottle early, I see. 

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Ok. Hitting the bottle early, I see.

Looks like he chasing whatever he's drinking with some 90 proof BDS.
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Historically there is a very pronounced demarcation between the tone and manner of the behavior of the campaign and that displayed while governing.

When, do you think, he'll make that transition?
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When, do you think, he'll make that transition?

I'm still wondering when Obummer is going to....
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I know! Can you imagine? And even after I told her she was very smart,even if she did give birth to a little of retarded traitor mamas boys,they knew how to follow orders.
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Because you are changing the meaning of my words.  Selective omission is as damaging as selective addition.

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HOW? I did a cut and paste of your very words,and did not alter them at all.
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Ok. Hitting the bottle early, I see.

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Congratulations! You are batting 1000 when it comes to predictions!
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Enough with hitting the bottle comments.

BTW...I was on that Bush thread almost nightly along with a few other ladies here....most did not agree with all of his policies but we all admired him for his WOT stance...and being CinC to our husband's and sons

Self-censoring what I previously wrote.

Some of my strongest conservative and strongly moral women (and men) participated on that thread.  And you're right.  LOTS of disagreement with policy but lots of respect for a great CinC and a good man.

It's kind of sick to see anyone obsessing with seething hatred over such an admirable conservative group of people on a 15 year old thread.
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When, do you think, he'll make that transition?

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I'm going to go out on a limb here,and predict "Not until after he takes office."
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HOW? I did a cut and paste of your very words,and did not alter them at all.

You omitted the main point of my post and left only one example as the supposed "point".  You changed the post to make it seem like the only reason I despise Trump is because of how he treats Muslims.  Not my original meaning as below:

I despise Trump for the same reason I despised Obama.

It's the Golden Rule. (I'm not all that religious, but this has always stuck with me.  No matter what.)

With Obama, if I were a businessman running a small business, would I be outraged at his regulations?  Yes, I would.  Ergo, I could not support him.

With Trump, if I were an American-borne Muslim, could I live with Trump's policies?  No, I would not.  Ergo, even if I'm not affected, I cannot support him.


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That's what selective omission does.
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You omitted the main point of my post and left only one example as the supposed "point".  You changed the post to make it seem like the only reason I despise Trump is because of how he treats Muslims.  Not my original meaning as below:

I despise Trump for the same reason I despised Obama.

It's the Golden Rule. (I'm not all that religious, but this has always stuck with me.  No matter what.)

With Obama, if I were a businessman running a small business, would I be outraged at his regulations?  Yes, I would.  Ergo, I could not support him.

With Trump, if I were an American-borne Muslim, could I live with Trump's policies?  No, I would not.  Ergo, even if I'm not affected, I cannot support him.


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That's what selective omission does.

Another name for that:  Taking words out of context.  And you are correct about what Pete did.  For shame, @sneakypete .  You're better than this.  I've seen it.
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Self-censoring what I previously wrote.

Some of my strongest conservative and strongly moral women (and men) participated on that thread.  And you're right.  LOTS of disagreement with policy but lots of respect for a great CinC and a good man.

It's kind of sick to see anyone obsessing with seething hatred over such an admirable conservative group of people on a 15 year old thread.

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You people were and are practically worshipping the President that was probably responsible for selling America down the drain that any president before or since,including BathHouse Barry.

And you did it purely because he had the Big Red Magical Letter "R" on his chest,and he loved to talk about being religious. Nothing else was on any importance to any of you.
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You omitted the main point of my post and left only one example as the supposed "point".  You changed the post to make it seem like the only reason I despise Trump is because of how he treats Muslims.  Not my original meaning as below:

I despise Trump for the same reason I despised Obama.

It's the Golden Rule. (I'm not all that religious, but this has always stuck with me.  No matter what.)

With Obama, if I were a businessman running a small business, would I be outraged at his regulations?  Yes, I would.  Ergo, I could not support him.

With Trump, if I were an American-borne Muslim, could I live with Trump's policies?  No, I would not.  Ergo, even if I'm not affected, I cannot support him.


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That's what selective omission does.

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Frankly,I don't give a damn if  you love or hate Muslims. I ACCURATELY quoted what you wrote,and then wrote what *I* think of Muslims in America,and why.
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Another name for that:  Taking words out of context.  And you are correct about what Pete did.  For shame, @sneakypete .  You're better than this.  I've seen it.

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HorseHillary! His context was "I would be worried if I were an American Muslim",and my reply was focused on that specific point.
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If Cruz was such an Insider with the Bush Clan, why did they fight tooth and nail to keep him from defeating their crony Dewhurst for the vacant Senate seat?

It's all in the article I posted a link to @corbe .. and there are dozens of other sources if you care to Google the subject. 

The Bush clan knew Jeb had to wait until 2016 to run for POTUS (can't have that royalty thing ...) and saw Raphael as a threat --- which is actually quite a compliment to Cruz, Jr.

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HorseHillary! His context was "I would be worried if I were an American Muslim",and my reply was focused on that specific point.

I'm sorry, but as a dishonest third party observer I have to say I think extracting that sentence from the rest of the post distorted its import, therefore its meaning.  It's just not Cricket, chap.
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HorseHillary! His context was "I would be worried if I were an American Muslim",and my reply was focused on that specific point.

No, it was not.

The point was the Golden Rule.  You responded to an *example* of it.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here,and predict "Not until after he takes office."

@sneakypete

Yeah, he does seem a little slow.

The election is almost over....as soon as the election is held, he'll have more than a month before he takes office. 
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Because you are changing the meaning of my words.  Selective omission is as damaging as selective addition.

I do that regularly.  Mostly because I want to be clear on just exactly what I am responding to (but also because I remember the days when it was considered rude to have an email signature that was more than four lines because dialup was so slow you could almost read it faster than you could download it).  I figure that since the quote function includes a link to the original post, anyone who really cares could consult the original full text.  And I'm pretty much convinced no one is going to care what I have to say anyway, so it's all good.
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