Intel world struggles to crack the code of an untrusting Trump

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 Intel world struggles to crack the code of an untrusting Trump

How do you brief a president who refuses to believe what you tell him?

By Nahal Toosi and Darren Samuelsohn

12/10/16 02:06 PM EST

Donald Trump's insult-laced dismissal of reports that the CIA believes Russia hacked the 2016 election to help him is rattling a spy community already puzzled over how to gain the ear and trust of the incoming president.

Some fear that Trump's highly public rebukes of the U.S. intelligence apparatus will undermine morale in the spy agencies, politicize their work, and damage their standing in a world filled with adversaries. After all, if the U.S. president doesn't believe his own intelligence officials, why should anyone else?

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[Doug Loss]

Anyone who doesn't think the intel agencies have already become politicized is either stupid, naive, or lying.

[Cripplecreek]

Anyone who doesn't think the intel agencies have already become politicized is either stupid, naive, or lying.

Maybe so but only a moron or a traitor would trust the Russians more.

[Doug Loss]

Maybe so but only a moron or a traitor would trust the Russians more.

True, but at least with the Russians you can be pretty sure what their motivations are.  With our intel agencies, it's very often nearly impossible to know if you're getting the straight info or some "narrative" intended to serve some political goal-

[HonestJohn]

Anyone who doesn't think the intel agencies have already become politicized is either stupid, naive, or lying.

Anyone making this claim is either stupid, naive, or lying.

Or do you work in the field and have experience in the matter?

[Cripplecreek]

Anyone making this claim is either stupid, naive, or lying.

Or do you work in the field and have experience in the matter?

It doesn't help that Trump stood on a stage a while back and said he hoped Russia could "find" 30,000 Clinton emails.

[Doug Loss]

Anyone making this claim is either stupid, naive, or lying.

Or do you work in the field and have experience in the matter?

If I did, I couldn't tell you.  But if you believe that intel briefs are always objective and are never slanted to the benefit of the agency preparing the brief, I think you're very naive.  I don't mean that in any nasty way, but I've seen too much to be able to swallow that idea.

[jmyrlefuller]

Donald Trump's insult-laced dismissal of reports that the CIA believes Russia hacked the 2016 election to help him is rattling a spy community already puzzled over how to gain the ear and trust of the incoming president.

Considering this is a man who rose to the Presidency through reverse psychology, by basically convincing his followers that everything they hear about him is a conspiracy, that may be the only way to reach him.

Deliberately lie, and assume he will think the opposite.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

If I did, I couldn't tell you.  But if you believe that intel briefs are always objective and are never slanted to the benefit of the agency preparing the brief, I think you're very naive.  I don't mean that in any nasty way, but I've seen too much to be able to swallow that idea.

Trumpy the clown dismissed them without reason. He's a complete tool and idiot.

[Free Vulcan]

Anyone who doesn't think the intel agencies have already become politicized is either stupid, naive, or lying.

Truly. The CIA is far more respectable IMO, but Foggy Bottom is totally compromised. Both have their internal politics and a portion of both are not friends to conservatives, and sometimes the USA itself.