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Offline ABX

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Tough general convinces Trump to change tune on torture
« on: November 22, 2016, 11:49:15 pm »
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US President-elect Donald Trump said Wednesday that advice from a Marine general renowned for his frank talk had convinced him to think again about authorizing the torture of detainees.

The Republican tycoon had previously made bloodcurdling pledges to restore waterboarding and "far, far worse" in US detention centers, scorning President Barack Obama's ban on the practice....

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Re: Tough general convinces Trump to change tune on torture
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 11:57:42 pm »
He is going to walk back everything

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Re: Tough general convinces Trump to change tune on torture
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 12:09:58 am »
He is going to walk back everything

Will he walk back tariffs?

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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 12:11:23 am »
All you have to do is say nice things about him and he is malleable to anything

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Re: Tough general convinces Trump to change tune on torture
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2016, 12:18:59 am »
Will he walk back tariffs?

No, because that's part and parcel of the xenophobia that characterizes fascist-type leaders.  The principal difference between communists and fascists is the relationship to foreign states.   The communists are internationalist in character, and tend to favor extending across borders.  Fascists are nationalist and favor their nation to the exclusion of others.  Beyond that, both generally favor left of center socialist domestic policies.  As we can see even now, Trump is quickly moving left of center domestically and, since he's clearly not a communist, will most likely try to make good on his nationalist/fascist xenophobia, exemplified in part by tariffs. 

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2016, 12:36:11 am »
No, because that's part and parcel of the xenophobia that characterizes fascist-type leaders.  The principal difference between communists and fascists is the relationship to foreign states.   

Putin is a fascist that wants to control and swallow up other countries

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Re: Tough general convinces Trump to change tune on torture
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2016, 12:41:04 am »
No, because that's part and parcel of the xenophobia that characterizes fascist-type leaders.  The principal difference between communists and fascists is the relationship to foreign states.   The communists are internationalist in character, and tend to favor extending across borders.  Fascists are nationalist and favor their nation to the exclusion of others.  Beyond that, both generally favor left of center socialist domestic policies.  As we can see even now, Trump is quickly moving left of center domestically and, since he's clearly not a communist, will most likely try to make good on his nationalist/fascist xenophobia, exemplified in part by tariffs.
@Oceander

"...try to make good on his nationalist/fascist xenophobia, exemplified in part by tariffs."

If he can act to hurt another country by tariffs, he will do it, he HAS to do it.  Just as he has hurt other people all his life to prove to himself he is the "best" human of all, he now sees himself as America and will hurt other countries to prove to himself he is the "best" country of all.