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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2016, 06:49:31 pm »

We were discussing that very subject a couple of days ago in terms of Hillary. Moore and Reid love to say, "Hillary won the popular vote!" Well no. Because it was not a popular vote election.


What I mean is different elections cause different behavior in the voting population. In the electoral system, people will say, "Well, my State is always blue/red for the last 50 years, so why should I vote?"


Conversely, if you knew that every single vote counts regardless of what State you are in, as in a popular vote election, then you would have incentive to vote no matter what.


So, saying you won the 'popular vote' in an electoral contest is a canard. It is not relevant. It is like comparing apples to oranges, because there is no way to know what the result may have been if the contest had been a real popular vote election.


Saying that Hillary won the popular vote is a bait and switch. It wasn't that kind of election.
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2016, 06:56:10 pm »


Yes and Hillary didn't campaign that much in red states either. She even pulled out of Ohio at one point (which I thought was BS at the time, I guess not).


Hillary's whole campaign was anemic and incomprehensible. I don't know what she thought she was doing. Her choices made no sense to me.
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2016, 07:47:28 pm »
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"This campaign revolved around 15 states of the country, right? Battleground states. My state of Vermont is a strong Democratic state; no one paid attention. Wyoming is a Republican state; nobody paid attention to Wyoming. Is that a good way?"

And you'll get even less attention if you go by popular vote. It will drop to less than a dozen major cities.
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2016, 07:48:28 pm »
And you'll get even less attention if you go by popular vote. It will drop to less than a dozen major cities.

Seven!  The exact number is seven.
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2016, 07:49:36 pm »

Hillary's whole campaign was anemic and incomprehensible. I don't know what she thought she was doing. Her choices made no sense to me.


She phoned it in because she believed the press, as many of us did. She paid the price though.

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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2016, 07:55:31 pm »
Seven!  The exact number is seven.

Thanks my man. I knew it was low, but I padded just in case.  :beer:
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2016, 07:58:39 pm »
Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College



Says the party of "Super Delegates"?   


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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2016, 07:59:32 pm »

Says the party of "Super Delegates"?

Well played sir, well played.
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2016, 08:00:57 pm »
The US should rethink the 17th Amendment.


The 24th amendment has been shown to have been far more dangerous to the life of the nation. 

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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2016, 08:01:26 pm »
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Re: Sanders: U.S. should "rethink" Electoral College
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2016, 12:21:41 am »
So how does Sanders feel about those superdelegates his party uses?