The shut down at DU and DI..

[doghouse]

I'm wondering when the cowards that run the boards, who have direct links to Hillary, are going to extract their heads from the sand (or wherever else they have stuffed them) and reconnect with the reality that Hillary lost???

They are hiding so they do not have to deal with the election results.  They are waiting to find some kind of excuse or story that will make it easier to swallow.

They need to get their noses ready because there are several of us who caught hell there who are going to rub their noses raw rubbing it in.

They can't lie and hide forever.

[ABX]

Actually, I am inclined to believe them due to one very important reason.

For the past few days, we have been under a major hack attempt as well. Luckily our host has pretty good security but we've been banning IP addresses and increasing security thresholds on our part. I also heard another major political forum that most of us are familiar with, has been also undergoing a similar intrusion.

Something seems to be targeting political forums, left and right. I think the video and stuff left on DU as a type of vandalism, wasn't really done because they were from the left but just as vandalism, maybe to make them think it was politically motivated.

[goatprairie]

I'm wondering when the cowards that run the boards, who have direct links to Hillary, are going to extract their heads from the sand (or wherever else they have stuffed them) and reconnect with the reality that Hillary lost???

They are hiding so they do not have to deal with the election results.  They are waiting to find some kind of excuse or story that will make it easier to swallow.

They need to get their noses ready because there are several of us who caught hell there who are going to rub their noses raw rubbing it in.

They can't lie and hide forever.

Many of their comments on the error page are hilariously pitiful. Some actually believe Trump is going send out goon squads to round up political opponents to throw into jail. They think Trump is going to revoke all civil rights laws etc. Some believe women will not be able to acquire birth control devices.
Good grief, are liberals actually this stupid? I guess so.

[doghouse]

I'm not surprised at all. When have you known liberals to be burdened with having to tell the truth?  The answer to that one is "never".

The instant that liberals are confronted with provable truth and facts they start calling the poster names and trying to label them as racist or woman haters. 

If liberals were restricted to telling the truth they would have nothing to say.

What will happen when DU and DI are returned is that the history of past comments will be wiped out, yes like with a rag, and the morons who should be held accountable for their words will just lie about what they posted in the past. I am an active poster on those boards and have kept more than a few of their comments for later "appreciation". This is going to be fun.

[Just_Victor]

Many of their comments on the error page are hilariously pitiful. Some actually believe Trump is going send out goon squads to round up political opponents to throw into jail. They think Trump is going to revoke all civil rights laws etc. Some believe women will not be able to acquire birth control devices.
Good grief, are liberals actually this stupid? I guess so.

You have to realize that they have vested complete political power in the executive.  Yes, it is unconstitutional, but it's what they wanted when 0bama was running things.  They assume (maybe correctly) that Trump will choose wield that same power, and further assume (probably incorrectly) that he will behave the way they wanted 0bama to.

[goatprairie]

I'm wondering when the cowards that run the boards, who have direct links to Hillary, are going to extract their heads from the sand (or wherever else they have stuffed them) and reconnect with the reality that Hillary lost???

They are hiding so they do not have to deal with the election results.  They are waiting to find some kind of excuse or story that will make it easier to swallow.

They need to get their noses ready because there are several of us who caught hell there who are going to rub their noses raw rubbing it in.

They can't lie and hide forever.

What is DI?

[skeeter]

Many of their comments on the error page are hilariously pitiful. Some actually believe Trump is going send out goon squads to round up political opponents to throw into jail. They think Trump is going to revoke all civil rights laws etc. Some believe women will not be able to acquire birth control devices.
Good grief, are liberals actually this stupid? I guess so.

Yes they are. One of my FB friends, an old friend from Jr High, is circulating a petition for the electorals to change their votes to Hillary Clinton.

They have 4.2 million signatures! Victory is within their grasp!!

I'm hoping more Americans realize who these people are - an assortment of overly emotional brainstems, malcontents and would-be runt tyrants - and make it even harder for them to win any elections in the future.

[txradioguy]

What is DI?

DI is Discussionist...or as those of us that follow DU from afar refer to it...DU, jr.

$kinner finally relented after years of us mocking him and his minions and opened a site based on that horrible DU software by the way...that lets Conservatives finally confront and openly debate things like reality, facts and truth with the DUmmies.

It can be rather comical at times.

[goatprairie]

Yes they are. One of my FB friends, an old friend from Jr High, is circulating a petition for the electorals to change their votes to Hillary Clinton.

They have 4.2 million signatures! Victory is within their grasp!!

I'm hoping more Americans realize who these people are - an assortment of overly emotional brainstems, malcontents and would-be runt tyrants - and make it even harder for them to win any elections in the future.

My wife's two liberal daughters (my step-daughters) were in full melt-down mode after the election. My wife listened patiently on the phone as the two called her and ranted about the evils that will happen after Trump is inaugurated. My wife was a bigger Trump fan that I was (I dislike him intensely but voted for him), but she smiled through both rants.
Now, both her daughters are coming to visit us for Thanksgiving. I doubt, given their past history, that they will fail to voice their displeasure about losing the election. We, my wife and I,  will have to sit and listen and keep our mouths shut if we want to continue to see our grandchildren.
But that's all right...just knowing that their hero Hillary won't be president is very satisfying.

[goatprairie]

DI is Discussionist...or as those of us that follow DU from afar refer to it...DU, jr.

$kinner finally relented after years of us mocking him and his minions and opened a site based on that horrible DU software by the way...that lets Conservatives finally confront and openly debate things like reality, facts and truth with the DUmmies.

It can be rather comical at times.

Thanks for the info.

[skeeter]

My wife's two liberal daughters (my step-daughters) were in full melt-down mode after the election. My wife listened patiently on the phone as the two called her and ranted about the evils that will happen after Trump is inaugurated. My wife was a bigger Trump fan that I was (I dislike him intensely but voted for him), but she smiled through both rants.
Now, both her daughters are coming to visit us for Thanksgiving. I doubt, given their past history, that they will fail to voice their displeasure about losing the election. We, my wife and I,  will have to sit and listen and keep our mouths shut if we want to continue to see our grandchildren.
But that's all right...just knowing that their hero Hillary won't be president is very satisfying.

Why the left feels its ok to blather loudly on unrestrained their political point of view while the rest of us, myself included, struggle to contain our own opinions while listening politely is a mystery.

I certainly understand it in the case of parents vs. their offspring but the same is true in almost every other social setting.

[ABX]

My wife's two liberal daughters (my step-daughters) were in full melt-down mode after the election. My wife listened patiently on the phone as the two called her and ranted about the evils that will happen after Trump is inaugurated. My wife was a bigger Trump fan that I was (I dislike him intensely but voted for him), but she smiled through both rants.
Now, both her daughters are coming to visit us for Thanksgiving. I doubt, given their past history, that they will fail to voice their displeasure about losing the election. We, my wife and I,  will have to sit and listen and keep our mouths shut if we want to continue to see our grandchildren.
But that's all right...just knowing that their hero Hillary won't be president is very satisfying.

The desperation and expectation for Washington DC to solve all the problems in life is one of the worst problems I've seen as of late, and it isn't just coming from the left. Pinning one's hopes, dreams, and future on who is in the White House will make people act crazy because they feel their future is being ripped away from them. They actually believe the propaganda from both sides. I know young (and old) people who honestly believe this is just like 1934 and it is their job to stop a new Hitler before he starts acting the way the old one did. This isn't just a passing meme, they honestly believe that. They feel as much they'll be on the trains as some on our side did under Obama (Google FEMA camp).

The rhetoric goes both ways. Look at how many on our side said things like 'If Trump doesn't win, the country is over, doomed, etc, etc'. Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity all trafficked in hysterics just as much as the kids on the left screaming the country is doomed.

[XenaLee]

I'm wondering when the cowards that run the boards, who have direct links to Hillary, are going to extract their heads from the sand (or wherever else they have stuffed them) and reconnect with the reality that Hillary lost???

They are hiding so they do not have to deal with the election results.  They are waiting to find some kind of excuse or story that will make it easier to swallow.

They need to get their noses ready because there are several of us who caught hell there who are going to rub their noses raw rubbing it in.

They can't lie and hide forever.

The comments there (DU hacked notice page) are hilarious. 

Mourn. Weep. Scream. Whatever gets you through it, do it.

And....considering that I once got banned there (forever) for merely saying something positive about George Bush .....

eff em.

[Doug Loss]

The desperation and expectation for Washington DC to solve all the problems in life is one of the worst problems I've seen as of late, and it isn't just coming from the left. Pinning one's hopes, dreams, and future on who is in the White House will make people act crazy because they feel their future is being ripped away from them. They actually believe the propaganda from both sides. I know young (and old) people who honestly believe this is just like 1934 and it is their job to stop a new Hitler before he starts acting the way the old one did. This isn't just a passing meme, they honestly believe that. They feel as much they'll be on the trains as some on our side did under Obama (Google FEMA camp).

The rhetoric goes both ways. Look at how many on our side said things like 'If Trump doesn't win, the country is over, doomed, etc, etc'. Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity all trafficked in hysterics just as much as the kids on the left screaming the country is doomed.

Seriously, now's the time to get serious about an Article V convention to propose amendments to greatly reduce the feral government's ability to harm (or affect at all) us.  It doesn't matter nearly as much who's in power if they have much less power in the first place.

[goatprairie]

The desperation and expectation for Washington DC to solve all the problems in life is one of the worst problems I've seen as of late, and it isn't just coming from the left. Pinning one's hopes, dreams, and future on who is in the White House will make people act crazy because they feel their future is being ripped away from them. They actually believe the propaganda from both sides. I know young (and old) people who honestly believe this is just like 1934 and it is their job to stop a new Hitler before he starts acting the way the old one did. This isn't just a passing meme, they honestly believe that. They feel as much they'll be on the trains as some on our side did under Obama (Google FEMA camp).

The rhetoric goes both ways. Look at how many on our side said things like 'If Trump doesn't win, the country is over, doomed, etc, etc'. Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity all trafficked in hysterics just as much as the kids on the left screaming the country is doomed.

"Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity all trafficked in hysterics"

Yes indeed...this election proved that (1) "conservatives" can be just as hysterical in their "we're all doomed" utterances as liberals and (2) "conservatives" can be just as easily conned by a demagogue as liberals.

[bolobaby]

Seriously, now's the time to get serious about an Article V convention to propose amendments to greatly reduce the feral government's ability to harm (or affect at all) us.  It doesn't matter nearly as much who's in power if they have much less power in the first place.

@Doug Loss

Bingo.

[txradioguy]

The problem with getting an Article V convention to happen has never been at the Federal level.

There are Republicans in Republican controlled state houses that are impeding this from happening.

IIRC legislation has been passed or written at some level in enough states to actually call the convention...but it's being blocked by McConnel types as well as people who don't know what an Article V convention really entails.

We're doing it to ourselves so to speak.

[Doug Loss]

The problem with getting an Article V convention to happen has never been at the Federal level.

There are Republicans in Republican controlled state houses that are impeding this from happening.

IIRC legislation has been passed or written at some level in enough states to actually call the convention...but it's being blocked by McConnel types as well as people who don't know what an Article V convention really entails.

We're doing it to ourselves so to speak.

Oh, I know.  The feds are saying you can't add calls for Article V conventions together if they list different reasons for calling for one.  And there are some state legislators who are actively trying to prevent their legislatures from voting on the resolution (which they're afraid would past if brought to a vote).  But both of these impediments are being worked on already by the Convention of States project.  If you're interested, it's worth joining up to help get your state to pass the resolution (nearly identical in each state).

[Longmire]

I also heard another major political forum that most of us are familiar with, has been also undergoing a similar intrusion.

  8detect8

[txradioguy]

Oh, I know.  The feds are saying you can't add calls for Article V conventions together if they list different reasons for calling for one.  And there are some state legislators who are actively trying to prevent their legislatures from voting on the resolution (which they're afraid would past if brought to a vote).  But both of these impediments are being worked on already by the Convention of States project.  If you're interested, it's worth joining up to help get your state to pass the resolution (nearly identical in each state).

I'm already signed up.

[Oceander]

8detect8

Are you privy to info that FR hasn't been under attack by hackers the way DU - and even TBR - have been under attack?

[ABX]

8detect8

@Oceander would you like to show Longmire the intrusion error logs or the IP list from France that was hitting our site in terms of thousands of intrusion attempts per hour?

[ABX]

Speaking of which, O, check the logs again. Looks like another forced entry attempt with a new IP range (similar to the one we already blocked).

[Oceander]

@Oceander would you like to show Longmire the intrusion error logs or the IP list from France that was hitting our site in terms of thousands of intrusion attempts per hour?

I could probably dig them up, although I might have to recover them since I cleared the logs themselves after putting the blocks in at the server level.  I will say, though, that they were thousands per hour and if they hadn't been blocked first at the forum level, and now at the server level, the forum might have become paralyzed. 

[Oceander]

Speaking of which, O, check the logs again. Looks like another forced entry attempt with a new IP range (similar to the one we already blocked).

Will do. Thanks.