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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2016, 03:11:16 pm »
No argument from me there but let's give him a chance!


Yesterday's tweet didn't inspire confidence.

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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2016, 03:11:49 pm »
Still channel surfing to see what CNN and MSNBC are up to- their same old same old, of course.

CNN had a "reporter" talk about Harry Reid's hate-filled spew against Trump and his "hatred and bigotry." They had a hard time hiding their glee.

MSNBC talking about all the protests.

Chelsea running for Congress! Dear God, the Clintons are not going away. The Clinton Crime Foundation investigation should put an end to that.
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2016, 04:21:01 pm »

Yesterday's tweet didn't inspire confidence.



The overall gratuitous insults on this thread don't inspire confidence either.

You yelling "FIRE!!!" showed me something.    :whistle:
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2016, 04:22:10 pm »
You yelling "FIRE!!!" showed me something.    :whistle:


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« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2016, 04:27:03 pm »

 :shrug:

Well, beyond your back and forth schizo behavior on Trump..

...it brings to light that there are indeed a core of members who, despite having won the Trifecta,
.....a a guaranteed possibility of a Conservative SCOTUS for the next 40 years.
...and a landslde of GOP control of State and County offices...
...they aren't willing to give Donald Trump, the man, one bit of credit for accomplishing it.

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When even hard-core anti-Trump members feel compelled to say no big deal.......

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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2016, 04:32:24 pm »

Yesterday's tweet didn't inspire confidence.

He gave a fairly decent acceptance speech and handled himself with some class at the WH yesterday.....even did well with his trip to Mexico, but you are crying like a snowflake about this damn Tweet.

Maybe you should reassess what is real and important in life and what is meaningless and forgettable like 140 character statements.

I'm not a huge fan of the guy but going on and on about a Tweet that most people don't even see as that controversial is insane.....unless you are a fan of unemployed losers rioting in the streets.

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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2016, 05:00:55 pm »
Reid is GONE thank God and the putz from NY taking his place (Chuck Schumer) ain't gonna roll easily!  And besides that the odds that the dems retake the Senate in 18 are astronomical!
And, there's an elevated risk that Schumer will bang his head on a camera or trip over a microphone cable.
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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2016, 02:58:14 am »


AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2016, 08:12:06 am »
Well, beyond your back and forth schizo behavior on Trump..

...it brings to light that there are indeed a core of members who, despite having won the Trifecta,
.....a a guaranteed possibility of a Conservative SCOTUS for the next 40 years.

No kidding?  A "guaranteed possibility?"  Oh...well, that is practically money in the bank.  This sounds a lot like "so much winning,"

 *bouche*
I'll believe it when I see it.

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Also, Since WTF was sometimes for Trump and sometimes against him, maybe you could cut him a little more slack than you cut for me...since I've been against/wrong about Trump since day one of his announcement.

Hope you are well my friend, and I expect you are freaking blown away by this if you haven't seen it yet...


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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2016, 10:34:26 am »
I will respond to this: I voted for Trump. While I might be a "snowflake" in worrying about a single tweet, Trump owes it to us to act in a dignified manor so that we may be proud of voting for him. As time goes on I get reassured. I know Trump will always be Trump, but please stop with the tweet Trump.


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« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2016, 11:57:36 am »
I will respond to this: I voted for Trump. While I might be a "snowflake" in worrying about a single tweet, Trump owes it to us to act in a dignified manor so that we may be proud of voting for him. As time goes on I get reassured. I know Trump will always be Trump, but please stop with the tweet Trump.


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I don't have any real problem with you, WTF....was merely compelled to point out your irrational back-n-forth support...continuing even now, AFTER he won.

In no posts have I "gone after" anyone.   I don't give a fig.  Couldn't care less.

Don't have to.   

I got EVERYTHING right.   'They' got EVERYTHING wrong.

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Re: Democratic Party in crisis
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2016, 12:04:30 pm »

No kidding?  A "guaranteed possibility?"  Oh...well, that is practically money in the bank.  This sounds a lot like "so much winning,"

 *bouche*
I'll believe it when I see it.


Hey @Once-Ler ....you must buy a ticket if you want a chance to 'win'.  Like any lottery.

At least I know there's not going to be yet another bull-dyke b*tch with a grudge ruling on Constitutional Law.


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I like WTF and I think his posts are honest, and if his decisions have wavered it is because he is a more contemplative man than me, as I pegged Trump as a loser 18 months ago.

Also, Since WTF was sometimes for Trump and sometimes against him, maybe you could cut him a little more slack than you cut for me...since I've been against/wrong about Trump since day one of his announcement.

Hope you are well my friend, and I expect you are freaking blown away by this if you haven't seen it yet...



I'll cut slack with the vast majority of members who refused to back Trump.  They been shamed and humiliated for their political acumen already.   No need to pile on.      :laugh:

And I really liked Arrow, Flash, etc..   But the last season of Arrow sorely disappointed.   As it seems, does every series in it's 4th season.

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« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2016, 12:27:45 pm »
Some are reading too much into this election and that's dangerous.

First, the GOP lost House seats and Senate seats. The governorships and statehouses were the case before Trump.

Trump went into this election with high negatives. That didn't change Tuesday night. In fact, it was very close with HRC winning the popular vote thus far.

This election was a message. It was an opportunity for Middle America to say they are tired of the corruption. They are tired of being told we are stupid and we need people who went to Harvard and Yale to decide what's best for us. They are sick of the lawlessness in our cities. They are sick of being treated as an enemy by the media. They are tired of the term microaggressions and being bullied by groups that are tiny minorities in numbers but have loud voices.......

The list goes on
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« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2016, 12:32:14 pm »
Some are reading too much into this election and that's dangerous.


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« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2016, 01:16:35 pm »
I'll cut slack with the vast majority of members who refused to back Trump.  They been shamed and humiliated for their political acumen already.   No need to pile on.

As before, you don't get it quite right.  Many of us said we all know how bad Clinton would be as president, and with Trump all over the map with his comments and past actions and positions we can't possibly know if he'll be as bad as she would have been, but we don't trust him to do what you imagine he will.  Shame and humiliation?  Come back to us next year at this time and lets see how many of your imaginings became reality.  Should he turn out to be the second coming of Reagan that you somehow have convinced yourself he is, we'll be happy to admit we were wrong about him.  But till then, your gloating is just moral preening with little or no basis in reality.
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« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2016, 01:17:18 pm »
Hey @Once-Ler ....you must buy a ticket if you want a chance to 'win'.  Like any lottery.

At least I know there's not going to be yet another bull-dyke b*tch with a grudge ruling on Constitutional Law.


I'll cut slack with the vast majority of members who refused to back Trump.  They been shamed and humiliated for their political acumen already.   No need to pile on.      :laugh:

And I really liked Arrow, Flash, etc..   But the last season of Arrow sorely disappointed.   As it seems, does every series in it's 4th season.

Woah! Big fella! WHOA!  I haven't been shamed or humiliated  at all and whether or not YOU were "right about everything" remains to be seen! FAR in the future in fact!

I'm happy for you that your guy won! But I would suggest you lay off the over the top gloating for awhile! A LONG while!

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« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2016, 01:18:56 pm »
As before, you don't get it quite right.  Many of us said we all know how bad Clinton would be as president, and with Trump all over the map with his comments and past actions and positions we can't possibly know if he'll be as bad as she would have been, but we don't trust him to do what you imagine he will.  Shame and humiliation?  Come back to us next year at this time and lets see how many of your imaginings became reality.  Should he turn out to be the second coming of Reagan that you somehow have convinced yourself he is, we'll be happy to admit we were wrong about him.  But till then, your gloating is just moral preening with little or no basis in reality.

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« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2016, 01:29:17 pm »
Woah! Big fella! WHOA!  I haven't been shamed or humiliated  at all and whether or not YOU were "right about everything" remains to be seen! FAR in the future in fact!

I'm happy for you that your guy won! But I would suggest you lay off the over the top gloating for awhile! A LONG while!

Yes - all that you said. 

It may not seem so after this election but winning the Presidency is the easy part.  The heavy lifting starts now and it really becomes tough on January 20.  It is possible, and I pray it doesn't happen, the most ardent supporter in just a few years could say, "I was wrong".
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« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2016, 01:39:38 pm »
And just a note to my dear @mystery-ak.  There is no Democratic party! There is only a Democrat party and it is on it's way to the ash heap of history!
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« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2016, 01:43:39 pm »
And just a note to my dear @mystery-ak.  There is no Democratic party! There is only a Democrat party and it is on it's way to the ash heap of history!

It wasn't that long ago we heard the same thing about the Republican Party
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« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2016, 04:53:14 pm »
Yes - all that you said. 

It may not seem so after this election but winning the Presidency is the easy part.  The heavy lifting starts now and it really becomes tough on January 20.  It is possible, and I pray it doesn't happen, the most ardent supporter in just a few years could say, "I was wrong".

First of all, I did NOT post the controversial meme about apologizing, forgiving and forgetting with myself in mind.  I don't expect anybody in here to do any of those things. 

It was to let everybody reflect on their own rough go of it with individual/specific members, since the presidential campaigns began. 

It was for members who got into heated argument and flame wars...the MODS and administrators can't be everywhere at once...with once another, and it was a suggestion to examine events and make amends.

As far as being "right"....I not only told you he was going to win, but I told you HOW he would achieve it.

That's all I meant about being correct....the prognostication of it all.

And somebody tell Sink he now owes me $200.00    For the Nomination...and for the brass ring.   Or...is it $1,100?   

He never pays up, anyway. :laugh:

I may not be a college professor in Pennsylvania....I may, in fact, be a "Yahoo" in many members' eyes.

But, truthfully,.....who has the correct pulse on the electorate.   Me?   Or you self-appointed "big brains"?      :whistle:

If you want to call that gloating...so be it.   I've earned the right.   Just like John Houseman.   



 
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« Reply #71 on: November 12, 2016, 04:58:02 pm »
Woah! Big fella! WHOA!  I haven't been shamed or humiliated  at all and whether or not YOU were "right about everything" remains to be seen! FAR in the future in fact!

I'm happy for you that your guy won! But I would suggest you lay off the over the top gloating for awhile! A LONG while!

Earl....please refer to my response to Lando.  Thanks.

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« Reply #72 on: November 12, 2016, 05:03:54 pm »
Earl....please refer to my response to Lando.  Thanks.

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Nobody went to the mat in here on whether a 'President Trump' was going to be added to Mt. Rushmore.

Just did!  Sorry you STILL don't get it!  :whistle:

Hint: Ronald Reagan had a little sign on his desk that stayed there for 8 years with little notice.  it read:  There is no limit to what a man can achieve if he doesn't care who get's the credit!"
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« Reply #73 on: November 12, 2016, 05:35:39 pm »
Just did!  Sorry you STILL don't get it!  :whistle:

Hint: Ronald Reagan had a little sign on his desk that stayed there for 8 years with little notice.  it read:  There is no limit to what a man can achieve if he doesn't care who get's the credit!"

You self-admitted yesterday to me that you got EVERYTHING WRONG!   

E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G.!!!!!!!

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« Reply #74 on: November 12, 2016, 05:36:47 pm »
Reid will be gone but he has been replaced by a president with the same mindset.   
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