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The Theory That the FBI Is Out to Get Clinton Is Becoming More Plausible

By Ben Mathis-Lilley
Nov. 3, 2016

When Democrats reacted to FBI Director James Comey's letter to Congress about the sort-of-reopened investigation into Hillary Clinton's private server by accusing Comey of trying to meddle in the election on behalf of the Republican Party, the accusation seemed far-fetched. Comey was, until last Friday, generally despised by Republicans for his earlier decision to recommend against prosecuting Clinton. But while there's been of yet no evidence revealed that Comey himself has an ax to grind, a number of data points have emerged indicating the presence of a politically motivated anti-Clinton faction within the agency.

For one, leaks keep coming out of the FBI that are unflattering to Clinton. First there was the revelation that the Clinton emails the FBI is currently checking for classified info came from Anthony Weiner's computer. (A good rule of thumb is that no political candidate wants his/her name anywhere near a headline that also involves the notorious A-Weens.) Then there was a story on Fox News (and a much more measured one in the Wall Street Journal) about the existence of an investigation into potential corruption at the Clinton Foundation. And the FBI also tweeted about a document release related to Bill Clinton's controversial pardon of Marc Rich.

On a parallel track, there was a report Thursday in the Guardian about FBI agents actively supporting Trump:

“The FBI is Trumpland,” said one current agent ... The currently serving FBI agent said Clinton is “the antichrist personified to a large swath of FBI personnel,” and that “the reason why they’re leaking is they’re pro-Trump.”

Longtime Trump expert Wayne Barrett wrote Thursday in the Daily Beast, meanwhile, about the connections between Trump and the FBI. The FBI Agents Association—a unionlike 13,000-member group—has close ties to Rudy Giuliani, a top Trump surrogate, and Giuliani has said on Fox News that he's in touch with current agents who are upset about Comey's decision not to prosecute Clinton. A former agent named Jim Kallstrom has appeared on Fox several times saying the same thing; Kallstrom's Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation has received funding from Trump and the Trump Foundation, and one of its directors is Rush Limbaugh.

The Guardian piece notes that other sources besides its quoted agent "dispute the depth of support for Trump within the bureau." And Barrett is writing only about Trump allies making claims of connections to current agents; we don't know whether those connections are in fact as strong as Giuliani and Kallstrom make them out to be, or whether said agents are upset about the Clinton email situation specifically because they support Trump. But when you combine the Guardian/Barrett reports with the kind of leaks that are coming out, Democrats' dark suggestions about the FBI's motives start to sound less like the reflexively defensive innuendo they at first seemed.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2016, 12:25:47 am »
What crap.

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2016, 12:26:49 am »
I suppose Team Clinton can try this one. The idea that FBI is just working to get Trump elected will probably be met with nation wide laughter
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Re: The Theory That the FBI Is Out to Get Clinton Is Becoming More Plausible
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2016, 12:28:29 am »
The theory that Clinton is a criminal and the FBI is doing their job is more plausible.

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2016, 12:33:36 am »
They are probably still upset about the guys who got busted for the hookers.

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2016, 12:33:54 am »
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/03/hillary_clinton_targeted_by_trump_fbi_fans_report_says.html

The Theory That the FBI Is Out to Get Clinton Is Becoming More Plausible

By Ben Mathis-Lilley
Nov. 3, 2016

When Democrats reacted to FBI Director James Comey's letter to Congress about the sort-of-reopened investigation into Hillary Clinton's private server by accusing Comey of trying to meddle in the election on behalf of the Republican Party, the accusation seemed far-fetched. Comey was, until last Friday, generally despised by Republicans for his earlier decision to recommend against prosecuting Clinton. But while there's been of yet no evidence revealed that Comey himself has an ax to grind, a number of data points have emerged indicating the presence of a politically motivated anti-Clinton faction within the agency.

For one, leaks keep coming out of the FBI that are unflattering to Clinton. First there was the revelation that the Clinton emails the FBI is currently checking for classified info came from Anthony Weiner's computer. (A good rule of thumb is that no political candidate wants his/her name anywhere near a headline that also involves the notorious A-Weens.) Then there was a story on Fox News (and a much more measured one in the Wall Street Journal) about the existence of an investigation into potential corruption at the Clinton Foundation. And the FBI also tweeted about a document release related to Bill Clinton's controversial pardon of Marc Rich.

On a parallel track, there was a report Thursday in the Guardian about FBI agents actively supporting Trump:

“The FBI is Trumpland,” said one current agent ... The currently serving FBI agent said Clinton is “the antichrist personified to a large swath of FBI personnel,” and that “the reason why they’re leaking is they’re pro-Trump.”

Longtime Trump expert Wayne Barrett wrote Thursday in the Daily Beast, meanwhile, about the connections between Trump and the FBI. The FBI Agents Association—a unionlike 13,000-member group—has close ties to Rudy Giuliani, a top Trump surrogate, and Giuliani has said on Fox News that he's in touch with current agents who are upset about Comey's decision not to prosecute Clinton. A former agent named Jim Kallstrom has appeared on Fox several times saying the same thing; Kallstrom's Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation has received funding from Trump and the Trump Foundation, and one of its directors is Rush Limbaugh.

The Guardian piece notes that other sources besides its quoted agent "dispute the depth of support for Trump within the bureau." And Barrett is writing only about Trump allies making claims of connections to current agents; we don't know whether those connections are in fact as strong as Giuliani and Kallstrom make them out to be, or whether said agents are upset about the Clinton email situation specifically because they support Trump. But when you combine the Guardian/Barrett reports with the kind of leaks that are coming out, Democrats' dark suggestions about the FBI's motives start to sound less like the reflexively defensive innuendo they at first seemed.

Didn't you use to complain about unnamed sources? This sound much more like a Clinton talking point than the truth. And if the FBI has information that shows serious criminality and upper management is trying to bury it, what exactly are they supposed to do if they have any integrity?

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2016, 12:34:11 am »
I suppose Team Clinton can try this one. The idea that FBI is just working to get Trump elected will probably be met with nation wide laughter

It would be interesting to see a poll question on that.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2016, 12:35:15 am »
Didn't you use to complain about unnamed sources? This sound much more like a Clinton talking point than the truth. And if the FBI has information that shows serious criminality and upper management is trying to bury it, what exactly are they supposed to do if they have any integrity?

How would they have known last Friday if they had new evidence of criminality when they hadn't read the emails?

One thing's for sure:  "unnamed FBI officials" are jumping offside leaking everything they know prior to next Tuesday.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 12:46:02 am »
Now that Huma is predisposed.

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 12:50:27 am »
If true, this could spell the end of a number of careers in the FBI because its illegal for federal employees to interfere in an election, and the only reasonable interpretation of a leak now is that it is intended to influence the election on Tuesday. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 01:12:41 am »
Comey has crossed the Rubicon now. He's gotta deliver the goods or perish.  He and his people are considering tactics and facts while preserving their own hides. I can't imagine what must be going on behind the scenes.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 03:00:03 am »
Comey has crossed the Rubicon now. He's gotta deliver the goods or perish.  He and his people are considering tactics and facts while preserving their own hides. I can't imagine what must be going on behind the scenes.

Speculation was that there were many unhappy FBI agents as a result of his July pronouncements ready to quit en mass and this is what it took to quell the anger.

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 03:08:13 am »
Speculation was that there were many unhappy FBI agents as a result of his July pronouncements ready to quit en mass and this is what it took to quell the anger.

So Comey decided to influence an election in order to assuage butt hurt from some FBI grunts?

Do you know what this makes Comey?
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 03:15:11 am »
So Comey decided to influence an election in order to assuage butt hurt from some FBI grunts?

Do you know what this makes Comey?

It made Comey a corrupt politician in July when he excused what many people are sitting in prison for today who did far less. So we've already established what Comey is.

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 03:16:19 am »
It made Comey a corrupt politician in July when he excused what many people are sitting in prison for today who did far less. So we've already established what Comey is.

Yeah. And he's hoping Trump is elected so he can save his job.
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 03:24:11 am »
What crap.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2016, 03:30:33 am »
Yeah. And he's hoping Trump is elected so he can save his job.

It is pretty clear his job is over no matter who is elected. It is for the history books now. If he goes out bringing down the Clinton crime syndicate, more power to him.

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2016, 03:32:06 am »
It is pretty clear his job is over no matter who is elected. It is for the history books now. If he goes out bringing down the Clinton crime syndicate, more power to him.

So, you'll be happy when the same is done to Herr Trump by another suitably minded FBI agent?  I'm sure there's lots of speculation one could dredge up about Epstein and sex with underage girls.

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2016, 03:45:30 am »
So, you'll be happy when the same is done to Herr Trump by another suitably minded FBI agent?  I'm sure there's lots of speculation one could dredge up about Epstein and sex with underage girls.

Well, actually, yes if it is true and Trump's DOJ is trying to bury it.

I know for fact Trump and Epstein were friends. I don't know what happened with the underage girls though there were underaged girls involved.

Do you believe there is a chance Hillary and her foundation didn't sell her state department position? Because I don't think there is any chance she didn't. Have high government officials buried those investigations, yes. And there lies the primary difference. These are the last cries/principled people standing up for justice and if they fail the Clinton machine will have succeeded in its complete corruption of Washington.

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2016, 03:53:40 am »
Ah. The anti-Donny Deacon arguing the the current DOJ deserves all our respect and the nasty FBI is on a witch hunt.....just like Commie Pinko Slate says. It couldn't be that the stonewalling in concert with information found on Carlos Danger's laptop hit critical mass at the wrong time for the best candidate for President.

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2016, 12:20:43 pm »
So, you'll be happy when the same is done to Herr Trump by another suitably minded FBI agent?  I'm sure there's lots of speculation one could dredge up about Epstein and sex with underage girls.

Of course I will.

What - did you think this about our love of Trump?

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2016, 12:35:18 pm »
Comey has crossed the Rubicon now. He's gotta deliver the goods or perish.  He and his people are considering tactics and facts while preserving their own hides. I can't imagine what must be going on behind the scenes.

Something huge must be going on behind the scenes for Comey to make this move. To bad we do not have an honest media in this country to report on what is happening.

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2016, 12:39:44 pm »
It made Comey a corrupt politician in July when he excused what many people are sitting in prison for today who did far less. So we've already established what Comey is.

Exactly, everything Gowdy asks about is a federal crime, and so is lying to the FBI

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2016, 12:41:20 pm »
If true, this could spell the end of a number of careers in the FBI because its illegal for federal employees to interfere in an election, and the only reasonable interpretation of a leak now is that it is intended to influence the election on Tuesday.

How chivalrous, defending the Democratic Abortion Queen, oh well, find all fault with Trump; but never with abortion supporters, Clinton, Romney. Really worse, then these imaginary attacks by the hate-Trump mob.