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U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears
by Justin Mitchell and Andy Sullivan
Nov. 2, 2016
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Down a Georgia country road, camouflaged members of the Three Percent Security Force have mobilized for rifle practice, hand-to-hand combat training -- and an impromptu campaign rally for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

"How many people are voting for Trump? Ooh-rah!" asks Chris Hill, a paralegal who goes by the code name "Bloodagent."

"Ooh-rah!" shout a dozen militia members in response, as morning sunlight sifted through the trees last weekend.

As the most divisive presidential election in recent memory nears its conclusion, some armed militia groups are preparing for the possibility of a stolen election on Nov. 8 and civil unrest in the days following a victory by Democrat Hillary Clinton.

They say they won't fire the first shot, but they're not planning to leave their guns at home, either.

Trump's populist campaign has energized militia members like Hill, who admire the Republican mogul's promise to deport illegal immigrants, stop Muslims from entering the country and build a wall along the Mexico border. Trump has repeatedly warned that the election may be "rigged," and has said he may not respect the results if he does not win. At least one paramilitary group, the Oath Keepers, has called on members to monitor voting sites for signs of fraud

Armed paramilitary groups first gained prominence in the early 1990s, fueled by confrontations in Ruby Ridge, Idaho and Waco, Texas, culminating in a militia sympathizer's 1995 bombing of a federal office building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 people.

Their numbers dwindled following that attack but have spiked in recent years, driven by fears that President Barack Obama will threaten gun ownership and erode the power of local government. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups, estimates there were 276 active militias last year, up from 42 in 2008.

In recent years, armed groups have confronted federal authorities in a series of land-use disputes in the western United States. Federal officials fear more clashes could come after seven militants were acquitted on conspiracy charges for occupying a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.

Many fear Clinton would push the county further to the left.

"This is the last chance to save America from ruin," Hill said. "I'm surprised I was able to survive or suffer through eight years of Obama without literally going insane, but Hillary is going to be more of the same."  ...
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Re: REUTERS: U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 12:01:57 pm »
I'm literally scared by all options now. Hillary Presidency, some of the Trump supporters are loony and angry as hell, Gary Johnson acting like a loon...

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Re: REUTERS: U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 12:14:41 pm »
Rooters: Of course only some paranoid gun nuts are afraid Hillary Clinton will push the country further to the left. And not even all of those.
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Re: REUTERS: U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 08:15:07 pm »
Doing it wrong...we'll be seeing news articles about these guys sometime soon.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 08:39:38 pm »
The standard MSM mischaracterization of OathKeepers.  What exactly is wrong with any organization calling on its members to be poll watchers and to be alert for attempts at vote fraud?
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 08:53:53 pm »
Not now, I'm Girding!

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 08:56:41 pm »
I'm literally scared by all options now. Hillary Presidency, some of the Trump supporters are loony and angry as hell, Gary Johnson acting like a loon...

Paralegal office drone that calls himself Bloodagent?

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 11:22:22 pm »
Doing it wrong...we'll be seeing news articles about these guys sometime soon.
I noticed programs on TV talking about militias...and noticed the whole thing is getting a warmup in the media. SPLC guy was the chief commenter... :3:
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Armed paramilitary groups first gained prominence in the early 1990s, fueled by confrontations in Ruby Ridge, Idaho and Waco, Texas, culminating in a militia sympathizer's 1995 bombing of a federal office building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 people.

What dreck. Armed paramilitary groups have been around as long as arms and groups. McVeigh was no sympathizer, and was asked to leave the one Michigan Militia meeting he showed up raving at.

(The guy in the room who is most loudly calling to burn it down and blow it up is likely the FBI/BATFE/DHS informant).


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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 12:03:16 am »
I noticed programs on TV talking about militias...and noticed the whole thing is getting a warmup in the media. SPLC guy was the chief commenter... :3:

Some I have read think this will allow Obama to take control via emergency powers as per Article IV Sec 4.
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Re: REUTERS: U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 12:07:01 am »
(The guy in the room who is most loudly calling to burn it down and blow it up is likely the FBI/BATFE/DHS informant).
I absolutely believe this. I also believe SPLC probably is more of a terrorist organization than any group of constitutionalists.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 12:09:35 am »
Paralegal office drone that calls himself Bloodagent?

I'm petrified, I tells ya.

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Re: REUTERS: U.S. militia girds for trouble as presidential election nears
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 12:49:53 am »
(The guy in the room who is most loudly calling to burn it down and blow it up is likely the FBI/BATFE/DHS informant).
Indeed. Consider the case of Hal Turner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner

Turner was an FBI informant who regularly called for assassinations and made general racist rants on his radio shows. According to the Feds, he went rogue and ended up going to prison.

Turner, by the way, has endorsed Trump.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 01:10:18 am »
Some I have read think this will allow Obama to take control via emergency powers as per Article IV Sec 4.
I really don't see why it should. Most of these groups are peaceful, sort of neighborhood watch on steroids, but have threatened no one. They have mostly been in existence through the Obama administrations with no cause for alarm.

The media meme warmup is likely part of a coordinated effort though, designed much like Orwell's 'hate week' to convince people there is a threat. It is a soft psyop, canned well in advance, sometimes updated, sometimes not. Often they play fast and loose with facts, and when the SPLC is called in, it is almost guaranteed anything to do with guns, god, or camouflage clothing will be presented as "extremist", even if it isn't. It is rare that the SPLC acknowledges Leftist 'extremist' organizations, partly because the Left has been using its extremists to redefine 'normal'.

This is another aspect of the Republican tendency to throw anything Conservative (the "extreme" conservatives) under the bus, in that just believing in and having read the Constitution can be presented by Leftists as some sort of seditious act, and the muddle in the philosophical middle (somewhat left of true center) is conditioned to believe it.

UPDATE, 8AMCST 11/4/2016, Just caught a docudrama on the Branch Davidian Massacre at Waco. I find it interesting how there are serious misstatements which persist in the official version, even after FLIR and other evidence showed that there was indeed an assault on the building, after pyrotechnic CS rounds were discovered in the ashes, after a building was extensively pumped full of flammable Methylene Chloride (carburetor cleaner) and CS powder using combat engineer vehicles on a day when there were 30 MPH winds....
I had to note the absence of ANY commentary on the use of military hardware (Bradleys and CEVs) to intimidate and 'clear' the area outside the building of vehicles (crush and crunch), then to actually poke holes in the building where exit doors, stairwells, and interior doorways existed to disrupt internal movement and insert the CS in the Methylene Chloride base while creating flue holes in the sides of the building. No mention of Posse Commitatus, no mention of the use of military hardware, even though the event occurred in 1991, not 25 years later when we have been conditioned to Barney Fife having MRAPs and APCs.
Nor was any mention made of the HRTs sniper nest, or ground troops mocing in from the back side of the building. There was a lot of head hanging over why people would choose to burn to death rather than go outside, but no mention of gunfire directed at those who tried to escape the flames. In short, it was the 'evil cult' meme sanitized for the protection of the officials and official agencies which murdered those folks.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 12:36:01 pm »
The standard MSM mischaracterization of OathKeepers.  What exactly is wrong with any organization calling on its members to be poll watchers and to be alert for attempts at vote fraud?
Nothing at all , but thats the domestic enemy media for you
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2016, 04:16:07 pm »
I noticed programs on TV talking about militias...and noticed the whole thing is getting a warmup in the media. SPLC guy was the chief commenter... :3:
SPLC is a criminal organization and a front for socialists/communists to attack conservatives.

What I meant by "seeing these guys on the news soon" is that it wouldn't surprise me if the fedgov has either already infiltrated or is going to soon and will somehow find a way to get these guys scape goated as "extremists plotting some heinous, violent act".

If you're a III%er, in a militia, etc...OPSEC.  Just shut the hell up and don't draw attention to yourselves, mkay?
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 05:27:10 pm »
SPLC is a criminal organization and a front for socialists/communists to attack conservatives.

What I meant by "seeing these guys on the news soon" is that it wouldn't surprise me if the fedgov has either already infiltrated or is going to soon and will somehow find a way to get these guys scape goated as "extremists plotting some heinous, violent act".

If you're a III%er, in a militia, etc...OPSEC.  Just shut the hell up and don't draw attention to yourselves, mkay?
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Bookmark, mostly for the general weirdness.
I thought General Weirdness had resigned...
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OK, fine, it's really Lt. Weirdness.
Promotion to Major just came in... :silly:
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Promotion to Major just came in... :silly:

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Well, that would be a major screw-up...
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Paralegal office drone that calls himself Bloodagent?

I'm petrified, I tells ya.
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