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I do realize you are clueless.

Better raise that flag on yourself then.

Unlike you I've actually read his issues page on his Website.  Everything he says in his stump speeches runs counter to what he claims he wants via his website.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

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Back to the topic at hand, I've decided I will not and we all should not denigrate Trump supporters.

And for Trump supporters, denigrate means to put down.

Wonderful.

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I proudly offer my name to your list. Your tactics are no different from Hillary's minions though they do hide it better. Your plans for non Trump supporters are no different than that of Hillary. You offer us only a choice much akin to choosing between a Nazi Stalag or a Red Russian Gulag. Thanks a lot.



This can't be repeated often enough.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

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goopo There will be no reconciling regardless of the outcome.

"Reconciling" is irrelevant.  Nobody needs to like anyone.  All that matters in the end is who you actually vote for.  So if there is a good candidate in 2020 that you can support, it's not going to matter whether or not your arch-enemy (be they a Trump supporter or NeverTrump) like you or not.  All that matters is how for whom they cast their vote.  And if we're all casting our votes for the same (good) candidate, who cares if there was "reconciliation" or not?

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Better raise that flag on yourself then.

Unlike you I've actually read his issues page on his Website.  Everything he says in his stump speeches runs counter to what he claims he wants via his website.

Absolute and pure nonsense.   And you know it.

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No one made principled conservatives an enemy.  "Principled" conservatives have simply withdrawn from the fight to keep our government, military and courts out of the corrupt hands of Hillary Clinton.  This will be hard to forget.

OH YES YOU PEOPLE DID.

Trump supporters have threatened us with death for treason, punishment, imprisonment, beatings, burning, banning and other nefarious threats both subtle and direct.  It was stated PLAINLY by Trump supporters that if we did not vote for your prince, that we will be counted as an enemy of the country.   On this site alone it was suggested we would be 'hunted down with dogs'.

We are NOT forgetting you people either.

And we plan on living up to the charge of 'enemy' you people have labeled us with.
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No one  Both Trump and Hillary supporters have made principled conservatives an enemy.  "Principled" conservatives have simply withdrawn from are in the a fight to keep our government, military and courts out of the corrupt hands of Hillary Clinton as well as the hands of a deranged narcissist. Something to thoughtful for so many This will be hard to forget.

There fixed it for you.   

You fixed nothing.  Your retreat from this battle will always be remembered. 

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You fixed nothing.  Your retreat from this battle will always be remembered.

What do you plan to do about it?

The one who thinks voting for a lifelong NY Liberal Democrat running as a Republican who funded and endorsed his opponent and an overt Communist for NYC Mayor is somehow 'engaging in battle'.

You make me laugh.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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You fixed nothing.  Your retreat from this battle will always be remembered.

The battle is to save conservatism.   That's why I will not vote for Trump.   We'll survive the next four years.  Remember, Hillary will have no mandate and the Wikileaks revelations have exposed her as thoroughly corrupt.  Let's join forces and perhaps the damage can be minimized and even turned around by 2018.       
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The battle is to save conservatism.   That's why I will not vote for Trump.   We'll survive the next four years.  Remember, Hillary will have no mandate and the Wikileaks revelations have exposed her as thoroughly corrupt.  Let's join forces and perhaps the damage can be minimized and even turned around by 2018.     

Here's a better idea:  Let's join forces now to prevent the corruption from redesigning our Constitution, the rule of law and our courts.  Let's join forces now to prevent losing another generation to socialism.

If you say no and leave us to battle without you . . . you will have earned your Karma.


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Here's a better idea:  Let's join forces now to prevent the corruption from redesigning our Constitution, the rule of law and our courts.  Let's join forces now to prevent losing another generation to socialism.

If you say no and leave us to battle without you . . . you will have earned your Karma.

That would require Conservatism, necessarily. Something wholly lacking in your candidate and your fellows.

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Here's a better idea:  Let's join forces now to prevent the corruption from redesigning our Constitution, the rule of law and our courts.  Let's join forces now to prevent losing another generation to socialism.

If you say no and leave us to battle without you . . . you will have earned your Karma.

So your idea of fighting a corrupt system is for us to support someone who is part of that corrupt system and is as bad as his opponent?

Sorry...as has been pointed out...the lesser of two evils is still evil.

Enjoy your train wreck.
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Here's a better idea:  Let's join forces now to prevent the corruption from redesigning our Constitution, the rule of law and our courts.  Let's join forces now to prevent losing another generation to socialism.

If you say no and leave us to battle without you . . . you will have earned your Karma.

The problem with your "better idea" is that we don't trust your Big Man to do what you claim he intends to do.  Nor do we trust you anymore, after the vituperation constantly hurled at those of us who can't stomach your Dear Leader.
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Here's a better idea:  Let's join forces now to prevent the corruption from redesigning our Constitution, the rule of law and our courts.  Let's join forces now to prevent losing another generation to socialism.

And your solution and *prevention* of the corruption and redesign of the Constitution is to support and vote for a lifelong NYC Liberal Socialist Democrat running as a Republican, who funded and supported his opponent with heaps of public praise for her tenures in office, and whom has a lifelong history of supporting Liberal Socialist causes and Communist Candidates for NYC mayor - INCLUDING funding and campaigning for them??????

THAT is who you want us to join together with?

You got another thing coming.

If you say no and leave us to battle without you . . . you will have earned your Karma.

Stop lying to yourself.  You are NOT in battle with anyone.

You have wholesale surrendered Conservatism to a NYC Liberal Democrat Trojan Horse whom you made your prince and savior.

You chose the ONLY nominee who would *lose* to Hildabeast and make her coronation look legit.

Congratulations.

The karma is all yours.
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You fixed nothing.  Your retreat from this battle will always be remembered.

No shame in retreating from a battle. I am preparing for war with the likes of BLM on one front and scurrilous Trump Supporters on the the second front and both dangerous and out for blood of any who refuse to knell to their will.

And I and those of like minds will stand the gap as the Godless barbarians come at the wall from both the left and the right and we will stand!!!

And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses.  Nehemiah 4:14

With me will be men who do not bend to those who follow unsound doctrine or those who only follow those whose words 'tickle' their ears, but men of Courage, Men of Faith!



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And I and those of like minds will stand the gap as the Godless barbarians come at the wall from both the left and the right and we will stand!!!

And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses.  Nehemiah 4:14

With me will be men who do not bend to those who follow unsound doctrine or those who only follow those whose words 'tickle' their ears, but men of Courage, Men of Faith!


ABSOLUTELY.

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So your idea of fighting a corrupt system is for us to support someone who is part of that corrupt system and is as bad as his opponent?

Sorry...as has been pointed out...the lesser of two evils is still evil.

The lesser of two evils is often the best choice one can expect on this side of Paradise.

And this is true whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it or not, whether you believe it or not.  Grown ups know this and act accordingly.  :shrug:

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That would require Conservatism, necessarily. Something wholly lacking in your candidate and your fellows.

We're fighting for the survival of our nation, for the end to systemic corruption threatening the very security of the US, and to land a body blow on the global oligarchy.  You're fighting for an opaque and ill-defined political label. 

This is not your father's election...political labels do not apply.

Please, catch up.

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We're fighting for the survival of our nation, for the end to systemic corruption threatening the very security of the US, and to land a body blow on the global oligarchy.  You're fighting for an opaque and ill-defined political label. 

This is not your father's election...political labels do not apply.

Please, catch up.

Bullcrap. *NONE* of what you are fighting for can be evn remotely attained without the principles of Conservatism being applied. Conservatism is not a political label. It's a way of life.

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We're fighting for the survival of our nation, for the end to systemic corruption threatening the very security of the US, and to land a body blow on the global oligarchy.  You're fighting for an opaque and ill-defined political label. 

This is not your father's election...political labels do not apply.

Please, catch up.

I voted every election for the most conservative candidate on the slate since George HW Bush.

And as everyone by now should know, I came out early for Donald Trump...because he's the real deal – not just another bureaucratic functionary.

Donald Trump gets things done. Runs a privately held company and has ultimate responsibility for billions of dollars. Have any of you ever tried to put up a 100-story skyscraper? Times that by 100.

Ever oversee the building of a world class golf course? Ever been on a world-class golf course? Trump has gotten that done all over the globe. He gets projects done, usually on time and under budget, against overwhelming bureaucratic, government and environmental opposition.

Some folks around here have no room to talk.

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The battle is to save conservatism.   That's why I will not vote for Trump.   We'll survive the next four years.  Remember, Hillary will have no mandate and the Wikileaks revelations have exposed her as thoroughly corrupt.  Let's join forces and perhaps the damage can be minimized and even turned around by 2018.     

Incorrect, the battle is to save the country. The country will be lost forever if Hillary becomes POTUS and legalizes tens of millions of new Marxist voters, floods the country with millions of Muslim "refugees" and packs the courts with activist Marxist judges.

Elect Trump and conservatives live to fight another day, elect Hillary and American conservatism is dead and so is our constitution.

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Bullcrap. *NONE* of what you are fighting for can be evn remotely attained without the principles of Conservatism being applied. Conservatism is not a political label. It's a way of life.

The principles of Conservatism are inherent in Trump's economic (fair trade, low taxes, minimal regulations), judicial (Constitutionalists) and national security (secure borders, applying the rule of law to immigration, meaningful vetting, and a strong, well-run military for the 21st century) proposals. 

Scratch the surface and stop looking for a damn label.

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Incorrect, the battle is to save the country. The country will be lost forever if Hillary becomes POTUS and legalizes tens of millions of new Marxist voters, floods the country with millions of Muslim "refugees" and packs the courts with activist Marxist judges.

Elect Trump and conservatives live to fight another day, elect Hillary and American conservatism is dead and so is our constitution.

Incorrect. Again, *none* of what you are fighting for is remotely attainable without Conservatism leading the charge. This country is already over without repentance - Something that will not be addressed by your movement in any way whatsoever.

You are not bringing forth anything other than our DOOM.


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The principles of Conservatism are inherent in Trump's economic (fair trade, low taxes, minimal regulations), judicial (Constitutionalists) and national security (secure borders, applying the rule of law to immigration, meaningful vetting, and a strong, well-run military for the 21st century) proposals. 

Scratch the surface and stop looking for a damn label.

No, they are not. What you have is a pocket full of promises. Promises which he has already either broken outright, or modified to the point of insignificance.

And in the mean time, the neocons remain firmly in charge of the Republicans. With his blessing.

You're buying a pig in a poke.