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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2016, 06:13:51 pm »
Why wouldn't Trump sign the bill? He's never had problems signing bills. Only paying them.

It would have to make it to his desk first.

And the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. 

I mean the ACA isn't impacting anyone inside the beltway...the very same people the Trump supporters are pinning their hope on getting a bill to Trump's desk voted to exempt themselves from Obamacare.
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2016, 06:14:34 pm »

Signing a bill is pretty cheap too.    What makes you think he won't?   Are you arguing he has some concern about the ramifications of signing a bill?  That he won't do something because he thinks it might be bad for America?   


If he's a cheap carny act,  what difference does it make to him whether he signs the bill or not?   Like as not he will sign it and use the political brownie points he gains to help him down the road.
For starter's he's on record as praising the personal mandate and also he praised both Bill and Hillary for their work in government. That would include Hillary care the great great grandfather to Obama care. At this point Trump is just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2016, 06:14:40 pm »
So it's bad when Obama illegally uses executive orders to make laws he can't get passed in Congress...but in your mind it's ok if Trump does it?

I mean that's what you're saying.

Of course that's what they're saying.

They've said it from the beginning.  They want a dictator, only this time it should be "OUR" dictator.

Unfortunately, they have foisted on us a dictator with the same political ideology of Obama.

This will go down in history as the victory of the biggest fools in American history.
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2016, 06:17:03 pm »
So it's bad when Obama illegally uses executive orders to make laws he can't get passed in Congress...but in your mind it's ok if Trump does it?

I mean that's what you're saying.


What I am saying is

Mod1 note:  We can live with the words, but do they need to be fully illustrated too?



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Illustrating my points with relevant examples has been one of my characteristics going back two decades.   Pictures get across concepts often better than do words.   


I am somewhat shocked that someone objects.   Politics ain't beanbag. 






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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2016, 06:31:01 pm »

What I am saying is

"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight."[/b][/i][/size]

And there you have it folks, the reason many of us think that Trump is doing something very dangerous to the Right and politics in general.

That is a perfect visual example of Trump's version of BLM. Same tactics, now in Orange.
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2016, 06:33:23 pm »
And there you have it folks, the reason many of us think that Trump is doing something very dangerous to the Right and politics in general.

That is a perfect visual example of Trump's version of BLM. Same tactics, now in Orange.

And they wonder why we talk about them being violent.  :nono:
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2016, 06:42:37 pm »
And there you have it folks, the reason many of us think that Trump is doing something very dangerous to the Right and politics in general.

That is a perfect visual example of Trump's version of BLM. Same tactics, now in Orange.


What,  have you been living in a hole or something?   Trump is a symbol of the anger that has been stirring on the right.   He is not the cause of it.  The Cause of it is a Republican Congress that would not fight back,  and a media that works for the Democrats to create these problems in the first place. 


A good chunk of the rank and file are angry,  and they want an outlet through which their anger may be expressed.   Trump represents their anger.   


Did you not go to the Washington D.C. Rally in 2009?   Did you not see how upset the people were? 


Read some Glenn Reynolds.  (Instapundit.)   He correctly recognizes that Trump is a symptom,  not a cause.   The anger is out there.   I constantly read commentary relating to potential civil war and demographic strife.   


If you do not,  then perhaps you are too cozy in your "safe space."    I read lots of other sites every day,  and there is much anger out there.   


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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2016, 06:45:49 pm »

Congratulations, folks. It's refreshing to see such a relentless stream of criticisms about Donald Trump, and by comparison, near silence on the crimes and incompetence of Hillary. This crowd obviously has principles.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've seen anyplace quite like this!   888high58888

...oh, dear me. I take that back. I forgot all about DU and Huffington Post.  :shrug:  Never mind.

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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2016, 06:52:52 pm »
Congratulations, folks. It's refreshing to see such a relentless stream of criticisms about Donald Trump, and by comparison, near silence on the crimes and incompetence of Hillary. This crowd obviously has principles.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've seen anyplace quite like this!   888high58888

...oh, dear me. I take that back. I forgot all about DU and Huffington Post.  :shrug:  Never mind.

In your dishonest and desperate need to prop up one Liberal over another you leave out the fact that everyone here already knows this stuff about Hillary...and have known for years.

How many more times does someone need to post "she's a crook" to make you happy?

All of this stuff coming out about Trump is not only new revelations that his PR people have managed to keep under wraps until now...but it also bolsters the opinion of true Conservatives that he's just as big of a crook and a fraud as Hillary is.

Why don't you just be honest with everyone and admit that what you really want is nothing bad to ever be said or written about Trump because you think he's perfect.

That would be more intellectually honest than the fan dance and pretend outrage over the alleged unbalance of criticism for one candidate over another.
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2016, 06:53:34 pm »
Congratulations, folks. It's refreshing to see such a relentless stream of criticisms about Donald Trump, and by comparison, near silence on the crimes and incompetence of Hillary. This crowd obviously has principles.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've seen anyplace quite like this!   888high58888

...oh, dear me. I take that back. I forgot all about DU and Huffington Post.  :shrug:  Never mind.


You might look at the thread I posted a short time ago.   I just realized that what we are seeing with this crowd is exactly what the Clinton campaign was counting on when they urged the media to help Trump win the primary.   


The Wikileaks emails reveal that they wanted Trump with Cruz as a second choice.   They realized Trump would split the kook moralists of the party off of the main group.    Trump would be the "wedge issue"  with which they could divide his potential coalition. 


That the kook moralists would turn around and start attacking their party's nominee was an additional benefit beyond their wildest dreams!    This sort of attack would never work on Democrats,  because they do not care about traditional moralism at all.   


What we have here are Conservatives dancing to the beat of the enemies drums,  and they are so foolish that they allow themselves to be thusly used. 

 


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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2016, 06:55:21 pm »
Congratulations, folks. It's refreshing to see such a relentless stream of criticisms about Donald Trump, and by comparison, near silence on the crimes and incompetence of Hillary. This crowd obviously has principles.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've seen anyplace quite like this!   888high58888

...oh, dear me. I take that back. I forgot all about DU and Huffington Post.  :shrug:  Never mind.

Yes, it's a horrible place. I'm so sorry you are chained to a computer that only goes to one website and you are forced to post here.
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2016, 06:56:28 pm »
I wanted to be sure I was being fair here, so I went back and looked at the front page again.

Yep, I was fair. Two weeks out from the most seminal election in our lifetimes to save this nation from a Soros-funded, progressive, leftist regime from acquiring the power of the executive branch...and, sure enough, not a word attacking Hillary.
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2016, 06:56:44 pm »
Yes, it's a horrible place. I'm so sorry you are chained to a computer that only goes to one website and you are forced to post here.


I think Jesus preached to sinners didn't he? 


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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2016, 06:58:26 pm »

You might look at the thread I posted a short time ago.   I just realized that what we are seeing with this crowd is exactly what the Clinton campaign was counting on when they urged the media to help Trump win the primary.   


The Wikileaks emails reveal that they wanted Trump with Cruz as a second choice.   They realized Trump would split the kook moralists of the party off of the main group.    Trump would be the "wedge issue"  with which they could divide his potential coalition. 


That the kook moralists would turn around and start attacking their party's nominee was an additional benefit beyond their wildest dreams!    This sort of attack would never work on Democrats,  because they do not care about traditional moralism at all.   


What we have here are Conservatives dancing to the beat of the enemies drums,  and they are so foolish that they allow themselves to be thusly used. 

 

Look, I've already cast my absentee ballot for him but lets not pretend Trump didn't do one helluva alot more himself with his big mouth to p*ss off "kook moralist" presumably Cruz supporters than just being a cad in his private life.

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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2016, 06:58:52 pm »


Executive order it.    Order all Federal employees to cease processing any Obamacare activity.   What's congress going to do?  Grow a backbone for a change?   


Make em.
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2016, 06:59:55 pm »
Congratulations, folks. It's refreshing to see such a relentless stream of criticisms about Donald Trump, and by comparison, near silence on the crimes and incompetence of Hillary. This crowd obviously has principles.

Come to think of it, I don't believe I've seen anyplace quite like this!   888high58888

...oh, dear me. I take that back. I forgot all about DU and Huffington Post.  :shrug:  Never mind.

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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2016, 07:10:02 pm »

I think Jesus preached to sinners didn't he?

Why is anyone preaching? I thought we needed a business man not a preacher.
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Re: TRUMP SAYS HE WILL SIGN VERY FIRST BILL TO REPEAL OBAMACARE
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2016, 07:10:52 pm »
Why is anyone preaching? I thought we needed a business man not a preacher.

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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2016, 07:12:01 pm »

I think Jesus preached to sinners didn't he?

You're not Jesus.
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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2016, 07:13:04 pm »
888high58888 :hands: :hands: :hands: :hands: Post of the thread.

How Obama-esque of you.
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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2016, 07:21:48 pm »
Look, I've already cast my absentee ballot for him but lets not pretend Trump didn't do one helluva alot more himself with his big mouth to p*ss off "kook moralist" presumably Cruz supporters than just being a cad in his private life.


Of that I have no doubt.   I think i've written half a dozen comments on the tactics Trump used to win the primary.  (None of which would have worked but for the media helping him do it.)   


Trump and his supporters attacked Cruz's wife.  They attacked Cruz's character, ("Lying Ted")   they accused him of being in bed with the Globalists and CFR,   they accused him of being part of the "establishment"  which already hated him,   and then Trump attacked his father as being a "Kennedy assassination co-conspirator."   


No,  Trump personally stirred up a great deal of hatred among Cruz supporters (such as myself)  and we are right to want an accounting for what Trump did.   


But there is no rational way to get there from here without tossing out the baby with the bathwater. 


I tried to get people to be reasonable on this subject and they just bit my head off and attacked me over it.   People I had otherwise considered rational turned into my enemies over night,  and put forth the most nonsensical arguments i've seen prior to coming here.   


The Trump supporters over at TOS were just as rabidly obsessive in condemning Ted Cruz as the Anti-Trump people are here in condemning Trump.   


It's like some sort of group psychosis.    Trump is an @$$.  We all get that,  (well, most of us get that)   but in terms of threat level to our lives?   He's a much lesser threat than the alternative.   


Yes,  Trump caused much of this trouble,   but this is exactly the consequences the Clinton campaign wanted when they helped boost his nomination in the primary. 


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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2016, 07:24:04 pm »
Why is anyone preaching? I thought we needed a business man not a preacher.


Trump does not deign to "grace us" with his presence,  so why *we*  are on this site has not so much to do with him.   


*We*  seem to be the ones doing the preaching,  and *this*  seems to be as good a place to do it as any.   

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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2016, 07:28:02 pm »
ZING


You are applauding that subject and verb disagreement?   


She asked why we were on this site.  The conversation had nothing directly to do with Trump.   She substituted "Trump"   as the  "Preacher"  to which I was referring,  instead of *we people* who are here doing the preaching.   Trump was never characterized as "the preacher."   


It was only a "zing" if you deliberately interpret the context incorrectly.   In fact,  it is evidence that someone trying to be flippant isn't really paying attention to the discussion.   


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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2016, 07:29:23 pm »
You're not Jesus.


Should we not try to emulate his actions and behavior? 

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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2016, 07:30:07 pm »
How Obama-esque of you.


You think shaming congress into growing a backbone is a bad idea?   Why? 


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