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Offline ABX

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The issue is none of us was  there and don't know the circumstances leading up to is alleged groping. Was she doing some serious flirting and making suggestive moves on him?

I have seen women do really over the board, hardcore  flirtations, suggestive moves on their own - really leading men on then backing off.

Oh wow, that sounds almost exactly like the Democrats going after Lewenski when she accused Bill. They said it was a set-up and he came on to her and made suggestive moves to him.

I guess we believe it when the accusee is a D and don't when the accusee happens to have an R behind his name this year.

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Obamacare premiums are skyrocketing and we get to talk about this crap.


Thanks Trump!

Bingo.  We could have had an historic victory this year.  Instead we get to choose between Too Corrupt and Too Crazy.   
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This is one of those events were Donald Trump would have been way better off just not commenting

Every event is one of those events where Trump would have been better off not commenting.  Trump could actually win this election if he would go hide in some mountain retreat for the next two weeks without any access to Twitter, and leave it to Pence to pound away on corruption charges against Hillary.  But of course that would require that Trump would actually want to win.
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Really?  Are you friggin' serious?  Please tell me Trump isn't that stupid.  This is a joke, right?
I'd like to tell you that. But I'd be lying.
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Bingo.  We could have had an historic victory this year.  Instead we get to choose between Too Corrupt and Too Crazy.

I've said it many times before and I'll repeat it again...

Hillary Clinton represents the absolute worst aspects of our government.
Donald Trump represents the absolute worst aspects of our society.

Good job America!

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I've said it many times before and I'll repeat it again...

Hillary Clinton represents the absolute worst aspects of our government.
Donald Trump represents the absolute worst aspects of our society.

Good job America!

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Nice Chewbacca defense of Trump basically saying, "Well, if she doesn't want to be assaulted, she shouldn't wear miniskirts."



Look at the monkey! Look at the silly monkey!

Typical of Trumpettes. They can't defend the stupidity of Trump, so they point elsewhere.
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Oh wow, that sounds almost exactly like the Democrats going after Lewenski when she accused Bill. They said it was a set-up and he came on to her and made suggestive moves to him.

I guess we believe it when the accusee is a D and don't when the accusee happens to have an R behind his name this year.

The difference is Lewenski was not accusing Clinton of non consensual groping/sexual abuse.  So Trump should be tried and convicted just on her hersay?  How Duke Lacross Team of you.

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« Last Edit: October 25, 2016, 04:57:55 pm by mirraflake »

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Nice Chewbacca defense of Trump basically saying, "Well, if she doesn't want to be assaulted, she shouldn't wear miniskirts."



Look at the monkey! Look at the silly monkey!

Typical of Trumpettes. They can't defend the stupidity of Trump, so they point elsewhere.

Do you have a better alternative?   Or do you just want to cheer the burning down of our country?
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The difference is Lewenski was not accusing Clinton of non consensual groping/sexual abuse.  So Trump should be tried and convicted just on her hersay?  How Duke Lacross Team of you.

@AbaraXas

Happens all the time in the "court of public opinion."
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The issue is none of us was  there and don't know the circumstances leading up to is alleged groping. Was she doing some serious flirting and making suggestive moves on him? Was she really grabbed out of the blue?

I have seen women do really over the board, hardcore  flirtations, suggestive moves on their own - really leading men on then -talk and actions then backing off.
I am asserting that regardless of what she does for a living, regardless of her 'station in life', she has a fundamental Right to not be groped--by anyone, should she so choose. That any person who respected her rights would not presume he has a right to grope her. Period.

That neither confirms nor denies that the events as claimed took place, nor that Trump did them, although his own statement would tend to indicate he did.

I have seen all sorts of flirtatious moves, professional (I dealt blackjack in a titty bar), and amateur, but those are not aimed at any guy who wants to grab a handful of flesh, even in the titty bar. Hands off the 'dancers' was the rule. If that leaves you blue, get a grip and handle it.
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Do you have a better alternative?   Or do you just want to cheer the burning down of our country?

Trump is not an alternative. He's the problem. The alternative is voting for a conservative. You arent going to fix America kicking cans every 2 years and complaining on the internet.

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And in military parlance, they're both REMFs.
Feather merchants, more like...you gotta serve to be a REMF.
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Oh wow, that sounds almost exactly like the Democrats going after Lewenski when she accused Bill. They said it was a set-up and he came on to her and made suggestive moves to him.

I guess we believe it when the accusee is a D and don't when the accusee happens to have an R behind his name this year.
Well, doggone it, the Democrats have double standards. Folks seem to be trying to keep up with the Joneses.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2016, 05:06:12 pm by Smokin Joe »
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Here is a hint, if you are going to issue a denial, issue a denial, not something that can be construed as an admission through justification of actions.

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The issue is none of us was  there and don't know the circumstances leading up to is alleged groping. Was she doing some serious flirting and making suggestive moves on him? Was she really grabbed out of the blue?

I have seen women do really over the board, hardcore  flirtations, suggestive moves on their own - really leading men on then -talk and actions then backing off.
The issue isn't whether it happened or not. The issue isn't what led to it happening if it did. The issue is his response. Anyone with some degree of common sense would realize that the accusation by a porn star wouldn't require any response. Most people would automatically give it no credibility. His response says "maybe I did it but I'm not the only one." Stupid.
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No, but I want to know lol. I bet plenty
She could be a major enemy in Trump's personal Vietnam.
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The issue isn't whether it happened or not. The issue isn't what led to it happening if it did. The issue is his response. Anyone with some degree of common sense would realize that the accusation by a porn star wouldn't require any response. Most people would automatically give it no credibility. His response says "maybe I did it but I'm not the only one." Stupid.
It's funny the good book doesn't say it's okay if they talk you into it.

Proverbs 7:21-23 "With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life."
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She could be a major enemy in Trump's personal Vietnam.
I thought he had no experience in the bush...
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Obamacare premiums are skyrocketing and we get to talk about this crap.


Thanks Trump!

To be fair, Trump listed a pretty decent first 100 days agenda, including repealing Obamacare right at the time stories were breaking about skyrocketing premiums.
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Not the issue.

Not the one you want to talk about anyway.

-fyi Trump isn't known for Charlie Sheen, NBA baller style proclivities.

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Not the one you want to talk about anyway.

-fyi Trump isn't known for Charlie Sheen, NBA baller style proclivities.
Hey if you wanna drag Trump through the mud by bringing up those he's associated that's fine, but I think there are bigger issues at play here.
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Not the one you want to talk about anyway.

-fyi Trump isn't known for Charlie Sheen, NBA baller style proclivities.

It's OK Longmire. We understand you're going through the grief stages and are stuck at 'denial'. But rest assured, your opinion will be as meaningless after Trump loses as it is today. AKA 'completely'.

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I wonder...if your daughter or female member of your family gets groped or is sexually harassed...are you going to blame them for the attack or unwanted advances like you're doing with these women?
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