I Was Wrong About Donald Trump But It’s Not My Fault

[geronl]

I never said I was better than anyone else.

I just said Trumpers are likely mentally ill.

There is a difference.

[DiogenesLamp]

Shame on you. He's virtue signalling, something you aren't supposed to notice when he does it.

Silly rabbit,  I am not the moralizer here.   I admit to being a flawed man who is currently supporting another flawed man because the alternative is so much worse. 



I am pointing out "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"


Noticing "when he does it"  is projection on your part.   I'm not signalling virtue,  i'm signalling common sense. 

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I am beginning to see the merit of hanging around here just to piss certain people off.   

That's what we love about you.

They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee. Micah 7:17

[Norm Lenhart]

That's what we love about you.

They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee. Micah 7:17

Whats funny is he doesn't even realize all he does is serve as a bad example to springboard off.  Granny always said everyone had a purpose.

[EC]

Silly rabbit,  I am not the moralizer here.   I admit to being a flawed man who is currently supporting another flawed man because the alternative is so much worse. 



I am pointing out "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"


Noticing "when he does it"  is projection on your part.   I'm not signalling virtue,  i'm signalling common sense.

Wrapping yourself in the words of the Lord is not signalling virtue.

O- kay.

*backs away slowly*

[roamer_1]

I don't think any in the field were ready for the Trump onslaught. There has been some bare knuckle mudslinging politics over the years, but this was unprecedented in modern memory.

It just isn't done. It isn't wise, because you would inevitably wind up right where we are now - hopelessly divided.
Trump won the primary by ruthlessly slandering his opponents, which pissed off absolutely everyone. not one side, or two... ALL sides are against him. His lying assaults in the primary voided any chance of victory in the general.

That is not a formula for winning.

[libertybele]

He threatened to run as an independent.  The GOP remembered how Ross Perot split the GOP vote in 1992 and thought that, if they co-opted Trump into the Republican primaries, one of their 17 candidates would beat him.  That would have folded the Trump voter back into the GOP by the end of the primaries and stopped another Perot-like split.

They did not expect Trump to beat out their candidates.

Baloney.  They sat back and watched Trump destroy 'their' candidates one by one and did nothing to back any of them.  Once it came down to just three, they continued to do nothing.  They kept Kasich in to take votes away from Cruz.  They would rather have the Trump/Clinton tag team, that way corruption continues as normal among the cartel in D.C.

[HonestJohn]

Baloney.  They sat back and watched Trump destroy 'their' candidates one by one and did nothing to back any of them.  Once it came down to just three, they continued to do nothing.  They kept Kasich in to take votes away from Cruz.  They would rather have the Trump/Clinton tag team, that way corruption continues as normal among the cartel in D.C.

I'm talking about the start of the primary campaign season and you somehow conflate that with the near end of the primaries?!?

How'd you manage that?

[DiogenesLamp]

Wrapping yourself in the words of the Lord is not signalling virtue.

Didn't Satan quote scripture?   

O- kay.

*backs away slowly*

Well for a bit of pithy wisdom from a bit lower ranking authority, I give you St. Ambrose:   


“When I am at Rome, I fast on Saturday; when I am at Milan I do not. Follow the custom of the Church where you are.”

[DiogenesLamp]

It just isn't done. It isn't wise, because you would inevitably wind up right where we are now - hopelessly divided.
Trump won the primary by ruthlessly slandering his opponents, which pissed off absolutely everyone. not one side, or two... ALL sides are against him. His lying assaults in the primary voided any chance of victory in the general.

I agree.  I've said repeatedly that Trump cheated.   He went too far in maligning a good man,  and he would not have won had he not used this vile tactic.  (And had the media not helped him do it.)   

I warned others at Free Republic not to give in to the mudslinging and hatred directed at Ted Cruz.  I told them Ted Cruz is the only one who has fought for us,  and who fought against everyone to do the right thing,  and we should not now reward someone who hasn't fought for us and only recently claimed to be on our side.   


But they did not listen.   

That is not a formula for winning.

That remains to be seen.   I didn't think Thad Cochran running racist attack ads against his base in Mississippi would win,   but it did.   

So viciously attacking your primary opponent is definitely not a formula for winning in normal circumstances,  but these are very unusual times and we now have a majority of people who were seemingly never taught proper ethics. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Baloney.  They sat back and watched Trump destroy 'their' candidates one by one and did nothing to back any of them.  Once it came down to just three, they continued to do nothing.  They kept Kasich in to take votes away from Cruz.  They would rather have the Trump/Clinton tag team, that way corruption continues as normal among the cartel in D.C.

And I think this is also accurate.   The "establishment"  couldn't make up their mind which one of the two "outsiders"  they hated more,   and so they didn't throw their lot in with Cruz until it was too late to do him any good.   In fact,  there was so much anger at the "establishment"  that it may have done Cruz some actual harm when they came out in support of him.    I know a bunch of freepers cited this as evidence that Cruz was "no good."   That he was an "establishment"  tool.   

This was a very anti-establishment year.   


Also Kaisch was always an @$$hole for staying in long past the time it was clear he could not possibly win.   

[geronl]

It just isn't done. It isn't wise, because you would inevitably wind up right where we are now - hopelessly divided.
Trump won the primary by ruthlessly slandering his opponents, which pissed off absolutely everyone. not one side, or two... ALL sides are against him. His lying assaults in the primary voided any chance of victory in the general.

That is not a formula for winning.

That and he is just awful at pretending to be any kind of conservative.

[Smokin Joe]

Is it just me or do you find it kinda distasteful for a Trump supporter to start quoting Bible verses as us?

BFAC flashbacks from TOS, but otherwise, no.

Matt 24:5

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

[Smokin Joe]

And I think this is also accurate.   The "establishment"  couldn't make up their mind which one of the two "outsiders"  they hated more,   and so they didn't throw their lot in with Cruz until it was too late to do him any good.   In fact,  there was so much anger at the "establishment"  that it may have done Cruz some actual harm when they came out in support of him.    I know a bunch of freepers cited this as evidence that Cruz was "no good."   That he was an "establishment"  tool.   

Yet one of the first things I noticed about them, was that they cited that Cruz didn't ''get along well' with the Republicans in DC. Well, he definitely didn't at times because he was bucking the very establishment he was accused of being part of. Yes, the Trump camp had that cake and ate it, too.

This was a very anti-establishment year.   

It still is if you won't vote for this crap, from either Democrat or Republican. If you vote for it, it will continue, you legitimize it.

Also Kaisch was always an @$$hole for staying in long past the time it was clear he could not possibly win.

I agree. Kasich had no way to get the nomination, and by staying in denied Cruz a chunk of anti-Trump votes which may have been enough to make a difference. In effect, he helped Trump, which told me the GOPee was more afraid of Cruz than they were of Trump, or they would have told Kasich to pull out.