I Was Wrong About Donald Trump But It’s Not My Fault

[EC]

Mr Berman,

When a man is wrong he apologizes, not makes excuses.

[AllThatJazzZ]

Living in NJ, we all knew all there was to know about Donald Trump and none of it was good.

Living in Texas and being [proudly] ignorant of most pop culture and "reality shows," I was unprepared for what a schmuck he was! I wasn't worried, though, because I figured everyone could see his schmuckiness for themselves and he'd be laughed out of the race. Imagine my shock when he caught on! 
:dropjaw:

[geronl]

They did not expect Trump to beat out their candidates.

It was all about stopping Ted Cruz

[AllThatJazzZ]

It was all about stopping Ted Cruz

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[HonestJohn]

It was all about stopping Ted Cruz

I don't think that was even a thought at the beginning.  Every pundit was saying that it'd be another Bush vs Clinton match.

[Rivergirl]

Jeb Bush was an outstanding twice elected governor Florida.  Great on education, great on taxes, and worked hard dealing with the illegal drug problem there.  He was out of politics too long and was unprepared for the likes of tRump.
Walker, while a successful Wisconsin governor didn't seem to have the gravitas to win primaries against the loudmouthed pig.  Kasich was simply too far to the left to win over voters.  His moralizing was pathetic.

[geronl]

Jeb Bush was an outstanding twice elected governor Florida.  Great on education, great on taxes, and worked hard dealing with the illegal drug problem there.  He was out of politics too long and was unprepared for the likes of tRump.
Walker, while a successful Wisconsin governor didn't seem to have the gravitas to win primaries against the loudmouthed pig.  Kasich was simply too far to the left to win over voters.  His moralizing was pathetic.

Jeb Bush attacked conservatives and pitched his tent on appealing to moderates.

[Smokin Joe]

Jeb Bush was an outstanding twice elected governor Florida.  Great on education, great on taxes, and worked hard dealing with the illegal drug problem there.  He was out of politics too long and was unprepared for the likes of tRump.
Walker, while a successful Wisconsin governor didn't seem to have the gravitas to win primaries against the loudmouthed pig.  Kasich was simply too far to the left to win over voters.  His moralizing was pathetic.

I don't think any in the field were ready for the Trump onslaught. There has been some bare knuckle mudslinging politics over the years, but this was unprecedented in modern memory.

I think the idea of another Bush was just too much for voters, and the immigration issue hurt JEB.

[Night Hides Not]

I don't think any in the field were ready for the Trump onslaught. There has been some bare knuckle mudslinging politics over the years, but this was unprecedented in modern memory.

I think the idea of another Bush was just too much for voters, and the immigration issue hurt JEB.

The idea of another Bush was too much for me.

Trump could have been put away early, but the strategy of his opponents seemed to be "let's be the last man standing next to Trump". Obviously, that didn't work. It might have, had Kasich dropped out, but Ted Cruz was deemed more of an enemy to McConnell, Priebus, and Ryan than Trump.

[txradioguy]

Jeb Bush attacked conservatives and pitched his tent on appealing to moderates.

I remember Rush absolutely dismantling Jeb over this tactic and his whole "I'm going to win without Conservatives"

Trump has done the same thing and then some and he's considered a genius by the same people who derided Jeb over it.

[bolobaby]

It's just "locker room talk"...why are you offended?

@txradioguy

[DiogenesLamp]

   It's a Political Blog not a self induced morality/principles test.

You're kidding,  right?   All I hear anymore on this blog is preening self-virtue proclamations.   


People never seem to get tired of informing us how much more ethical and virtuous they are then we because they would never stoop so low as to vote for someone with bad morals.   


That this may very well hand power to the most evil rage-witch of which we can conceive,  is immaterial to the "virtue signalers"  so long as they can continue telling us how much more "morally superior" they are.   


"Thank God I am not like that publican over there!"   

[txradioguy]

You're kidding,  right?   All I hear anymore on this blog is preening self-virtue proclamations.   


People never seem to get tired of informing us how much more ethical and virtuous they are then we because they would never stoop so low as to vote for someone with bad morals.   


That this may very well hand power to the most evil rage-witch of which we can conceive,  is immaterial to the "virtue signalers"  so long as they can continue telling us how much more "morally superior" they are.   


"Thank God I am not like that publican over there!"

[Norm Lenhart]

You're kidding,  right?   All I hear anymore on this blog is preening self-virtue proclamations.   


People never seem to get tired of informing us how much more ethical and virtuous they are then we because they would never stoop so low as to vote for someone with bad morals.   


That this may very well hand power to the most evil rage-witch of which we can conceive,  is immaterial to the "virtue signalers"  so long as they can continue telling us how much more "morally superior" they are.   


"Thank God I am not like that publican over there!"

Well, FR is still operational for the moment. You DO have options if this place upsets you so deeply.

[DiogenesLamp]

You're  rebuttal is "You're one too!"   What are you,  five?   


It does not make a tinker's D@mn if I am one too,   I am not trying to pretend to be a paragon of virtue.   You have not addressed my valid criticism that you people spend most of your time telling us all how you are so much better than we because you won't support a candidate with what you consider to be "low morals."   


How about you stop preening about your great level of virtue?   The Virtuous do not crow their virtue everyday.   You people have said your say,  you've made you point,  you've explained to us all how you are much too moral to support a flawed candidate,   so how about you shaddup about it now?   

Your point does not get any clearer by repetition,  and indeed your repetition seems more like vanity than it does anything else.    Your "I told you so's"   also serve only to elevate yourselves,  and accomplish nothing more.   

[DiogenesLamp]

Well, FR is still operational for the moment. You DO have options if this place upsets you so deeply.

5And when king David came to Bahurim, behold, thence came out a man of the family of the house of Saul, whose name was Shimei, the son of Gera: he came forth, and cursed still as he came. 6And he cast stones at David, and at all the servants of king David: and all the people and all the mighty men were on his right hand and on his left. 7And thus said Shimei when he cursed, Come out, come out, thou bloody man, and thou man of Belial: 8The LORD hath returned upon thee all the blood of the house of Saul, in whose stead thou hast reigned; and the LORD hath delivered the kingdom into the hand of Absalom thy son: and, behold, thou art taken in thy mischief, because thou art a bloody man.

9Then said Abishai the son of Zeruiah unto the king, Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? let me go over, I pray thee, and take off his head. 10And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? so let him curse, because the LORD hath said unto him, Curse David. Who shall then say, Wherefore hast thou done so? 11And David said to Abishai, and to all his servants, Behold, my son, which came forth of my bowels, seeketh my life: how much more now may this Benjamite do it? let him alone, and let him curse; for the LORD hath bidden him. 12It may be that the LORD will

[corbe]

   @DiogenesLamp  Bill Clinton taught us that Morals can be compromised and dealt with by most people, regardless of the scumminess, BUT for a Conservative, NY or NE LIBERALISM is just

   That clear anything up for you?

[txradioguy]

You're  rebuttal is "You're one too!"   What are you,  five?   

I respond accordingly to the level of intellect I'm dealing with. 

And the way you're going...I'm about to have to break out the crayons.

[Norm Lenhart]

5And when king David came to Bahurim, behold, thence came out a man of the family of the house of Saul, whose name was Shimei, the son of Gera: he came forth, and cursed still as he came. 6And he cast stones at David, and at all the servants of king David: and all the people and all the mighty men were on his right hand and on his left. 7And thus said Shimei when he cursed, Come out, come out, thou bloody man, and thou man of Belial: 8The LORD hath returned upon thee all the blood of the house of Saul, in whose stead thou hast reigned; and the LORD hath delivered the kingdom into the hand of Absalom thy son: and, behold, thou art taken in thy mischief, because thou art a bloody man.

9Then said Abishai the son of Zeruiah unto the king, Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? let me go over, I pray thee, and take off his head. 10And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? so let him curse, because the LORD hath said unto him, Curse David. Who shall then say, Wherefore hast thou done so? 11And David said to Abishai, and to all his servants, Behold, my son, which came forth of my bowels, seeketh my life: how much more now may this Benjamite do it? let him alone, and let him curse; for the LORD hath bidden him. 12It may be that the LORD will

Well, FR is still operational for the moment. You DO have options if this place upsets you so deeply.

[txradioguy]

Well, FR is still operational for the moment. You DO have options if this place upsets you so deeply.

Is it just me or do you find it kinda distasteful for a Trump supporter to start quoting Bible verses as us?

[EC]

Is it just me or do you find it kinda distasteful for a Trump supporter to start quoting Bible verses as us?

Shame on you. He's virtue signalling, something you aren't supposed to notice when he does it.

[Norm Lenhart]

Shame on you. He's virtue signalling, something you aren't supposed to notice when he does it.

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[Idaho_Cowboy]

It's just "locker room talk"...why are you offended?

[jmyrlefuller]

It does not make a tinker's D@mn if I am one too,   I am not trying to pretend to be a paragon of virtue.   You have not addressed my valid criticism that you people spend most of your time telling us all how you are so much better than we because you won't support a candidate with what you consider to be "low morals."  How about you stop preening about your great level of virtue?   The Virtuous do not crow their virtue everyday.   You people have said your say,  you've made you point,  you've explained to us all how you are much too moral to support a flawed candidate,   so how about you shaddup about it now?   

Your point does not get any clearer by repetition,  and indeed your repetition seems more like vanity than it does anything else.    Your "I told you so's"   also serve only to elevate yourselves,  and accomplish nothing more.

When you stop making false smears against us accusing us of "wanting Hillary to win," then we'll talk.

Until then, we will continue to maintain that both your candidate and the other major candidate are both unacceptable, and we will continue until Election Day doing everything we legally can do to stop both, as long of a shot as it is.

[DiogenesLamp]

Well, FR is still operational for the moment. You DO have options if this place upsets you so deeply.

I am beginning to see the merit of hanging around here just to piss certain people off.   



5And when king David came to Bahurim, behold, thence came out a man of the family of the house of Saul, whose name was Shimei, the son of Gera: he came forth, and cursed still as he came. 6And he cast stones at David, and at all the servants of king David: and all the people and all the mighty men were on his right hand and on his left. 7And thus said Shimei when he cursed, Come out, come out, thou bloody man, and thou man of Belial: 8The LORD hath returned upon thee all the blood of the house of Saul, in whose stead thou hast reigned; and the LORD hath delivered the kingdom into the hand of Absalom thy son: and, behold, thou art taken in thy mischief, because thou art a bloody man.

9Then said Abishai the son of Zeruiah unto the king, Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? let me go over, I pray thee, and take off his head. 10And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? so let him curse, because the LORD hath said unto him, Curse David. Who shall then say, Wherefore hast thou done so? 11And David said to Abishai, and to all his servants, Behold, my son, which came forth of my bowels, seeketh my life: how much more now may this Benjamite do it? let him alone, and let him curse; for the LORD hath bidden him.