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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2016, 05:20:41 pm »
Not to worry, Sarah the Barracuda will stop the Russian hordes all by herself.
The second they hear her voice, the Russian Navy will steam right back to Severomorsk.
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2016, 05:22:22 pm »
Clinton gave Russia Uranium rights after her speech there, I'm not sure of the details.

Another accusation against Trump turns to dust.

Hardly.  Just shows they are both willing to play footsie with a Russian strong man.

Again proving there there is no difference between either of the Liberal Dem candidates we're being forced to choose between this year.
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2016, 05:22:45 pm »
#NeverTrump = "Good morning, madam President"
If you didn't want Hillary as President why are you supporting Trump like a lemming racing to the cliff edge?

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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2016, 05:23:48 pm »
#NeverTrump = "Good morning, madam President"

Have you ever taken responsibility for anything in your life?  Or are you just one of those that blames everyone else for your own actions?

Given the fact that you and the rest of the Branch Trumpidians refuse to admit that if Hillary gets elected it's your fault...I'd say you've been passing the buck your entire life.
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2016, 05:27:42 pm »
If you didn't want Hillary as President why are you supporting Trump like a lemming racing to the cliff edge?

Excellent!   :silly:
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2016, 06:00:47 pm »
Democracy? Two wolves and a lamb voting on the dinner menu?

This is supposed to be a REPUBLIC, people.
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2016, 06:00:47 pm »
Have you ever taken responsibility for anything in your life?  Or are you just one of those that blames everyone else for your own actions?

Given the fact that you and the rest of the Branch Trumpidians refuse to admit that if Hillary gets elected it's your fault...I'd say you've been passing the buck your entire life.

I'm going to blame Priebus, for allowing so many candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other to run.   He should have been canned after 2012.

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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2016, 06:08:22 pm »
I'm going to blame Priebus, for allowing so many candidates who couldn't distinguish themselves from each other to run.   He should have been canned after 2012.

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how he got into the position he's in in the first place.

No one had ever heard of him before he took over for Steele.

Most Republicans are now wishing he'd stayed in Wisconsin.
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« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2016, 07:00:49 pm »
Who’s in Putin’s Pocket — Clinton or Trump?

While serving as secretary of state to President Obama, Hillary Clinton delivered one fifth of America’s uranium deposits to Russia. So charge investigators who have been delving into the murky — and very alarming — dealings of Secretary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation with a company known as Uranium One, and various “private” Russian companies and official Russian agencies. Moreover, her critics accuse Hillary and Bill Clinton of raking in a huge fortune (over $130 million) from the American, Canadian, and Russian investors who helped arrange for these Russian companies — under the control, ultimately, of Vladimir Putin — to take control of 20 percent of our strategic uranium assets. Indeed, according to some calculations, the Uranium One deal, involving top Clinton donors Frank Guistra and Ian Telfer, has transferred as much as 50 percent of projected American uranium production to Kremlin control.

Why does the explosive Clinton-Uranium One story — which has been buried (naturally) by the pro-Hillary establishment media for the past year — now take on new meaning and urgency? Well, for one thing, for the past several days Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has been trying to make hay with the charge that recent comments by her Republican rival, Donald Trump, show “a very troubling willingness” to support Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Is that not rich? Hillary and Bill take massive bribes from Putin cronies to transfer ownership and control over the fuel for our nation’s nuclear power plants (which provide one fifth of our national electrical energy) and our nuclear weapons to Putin & Company — and then accuse her opponent of being in bed with Putin!

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/23786-who-s-in-putin-s-pocket-clinton-or-trump

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« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2016, 07:53:27 pm »
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The truth, as several columnists and reporters have painstakingly shown since the first hack of a Clinton-affiliated group took place in late May or early June, is that several of Trump’s businesses outside of Russia are entangled with Russian financiers inside Putin’s circle.

So, yes, it’s true that Trump has failed to land a business venture inside Russia. But the real truth is that, as major banks in America stopped lending him money following his many bankruptcies, the Trump organization was forced to seek financing from non-traditional institutions. Several had direct ties to Russian financial interests in ways that have raised eyebrows. What’s more, several of Trump’s senior advisors have business ties to Russia or its satellite politicians.

“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”

What’s more, three of Trump’s top advisors all have extensive financial and business ties to Russian financiers, wrote Boot, the former editor of the Op Ed page of the Wall Street Journal and now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.


Oh and lets not forget:

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Trump’s de facto campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was a longtime consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the Russian-backed president of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014. Manafort also has done multimillion-dollar business deals with Russian oligarchs. Trump’s foreign policy advisor Carter Page has his own business ties to the state-controlled Russian oil giant Gazprom. … Another Trump foreign policy advisor, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, flew to Moscow last year to attend a gala banquet celebrating Russia Today, the Kremlin’s propaganda channel, and was seated at the head table near Putin.

http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/

Checkmate.
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2016, 09:05:45 pm »
Putin and his friends want WW3

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« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2016, 09:26:56 pm »
Putin and his friends want WW3


I don't get it with this Putin fascination.. He is a thug and a FORMER KGB agent.. But somehow he is defending Christianity.
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2016, 09:34:52 pm »
But somehow he is defending Christianity.

No, he isn't. That is one of the thinnest veneers ever.

Putin passed a law against evangelisation and even sharing your faith in your own home!!

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2016, 09:44:56 pm »
No, he isn't. That is one of the thinnest veneers ever.

Putin passed a law against evangelisation and even sharing your faith in your own home!!

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html


You have to realize that was sarcasm...
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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2016, 09:46:55 pm »

You have to realize that was sarcasm...

I know.

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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2016, 09:49:41 pm »
I know.


In reality Russia has a low birth rate...
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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2016, 10:22:13 pm »

In reality Russia has a low birth rate...

and an extremely high abortion rate

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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2016, 10:35:32 pm »
and an extremely high abortion rate


Didn't know that, but I'm not surprised..
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2016, 11:22:57 pm »
No, he isn't.

Sure he is...the fact he doesn't defend your particular brand of it is really not the issue.



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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2016, 11:24:49 pm »
Sure he is...the fact he doesn't defend your particular brand of it is really not the issue.

Maybe you missed the fact that religion in Russia (outside of the state church) is restricted to within the walls of church, it's even banned at home.

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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2016, 11:28:24 pm »
Russia, the nation of vodka drinking slobs.
Yes, but Russian drivers on YouTube provide great entertainment. So there's that. :laugh:

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« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2016, 11:30:28 pm »
Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?

OK, fess up.  What is your DU handle?
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2016, 11:40:34 pm »
#NeverTrump Conservative= "Good morning, madam President"

There, fixed it for you.  If Trump decided to be a Conservative, he could still win.  But to Trump, being a liberal is more important than beating Clinton.
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Re: Russia or the Neocons: Who endangers American democracy?
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2016, 02:50:22 am »
Maybe you missed the fact that religion in Russia (outside of the state church) is restricted to within the walls of church, it's even banned at home.

Not true...even when you keep jabbering about it.  :nono: