WSJ: The Cheap Moralizing of Never Trump

[r9etb]

Wrong.  Trump has been horrible in the business world.  He's gone through inherited wealth ... had grandiose ideas... borrowed too much ... refused to pay too many people ... hired too many illegals... numerous bankruptcies hanging creditors out to dry ... record numbers of lawsuits ... started fraudulent money-making schemes as in Trump University, Trump wine, Trump beef... I could go on.

True enough.  But Trump has been very successful in marketing himself -- there's no way he could keep starting then running businesses into the ground without significant investors, and for whatever reason he's always been able to find them.

Trump is very effective at influencing peoples' perceptions of reality, as it applies to him and his enterprises -- whether they've been in business or in politics. 

He does deal with reality; he just doesn't depend upon it.

[jmyrlefuller]

The first part, "scrap them," could well happen under Trump.  To him, they'd just be "deals," not unlike the sorts of deals he's frequently dissolved through bankruptcy.

Of course, when you're running a country you can't just start over with a new set of patsies.  Or maybe you can, I don't know .... but more likely it ends up starting a war.

Well, we ended up getting out of the Great Depression because of World War II, so that might just be Trump's plan all along: start World War III.

[ConstitutionRose]

Are you from Texas.  I had to smile at "Ya'll like to wore me out."

Yes, originally.  I lapse into my natural speech patterns sometimes.  Especially when I am tired and under caffinated.  I worked for a fortune 100 company that actually sent me to school to rid me of my regional speech characteristics so they could promote me.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Well, we ended up getting out of the Great Depression because of World War II, so that might just be Trump's plan all along: start World War III.

I disagree. A lot of people say that, but War being good for the economy just doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's a complex issue, but if you are interested, you might check this out:
https://mises.org/library/world-war-ii-did-not-end-great-depression

[Emjay]

Yes, originally.  I lapse into my natural speech patterns sometimes.  Especially when I am tired and under caffinated.  I worked for a fortune 100 company that actually sent me to school to rid me of my regional speech characteristics so they could promote me.

I hate when that happens.  We are losing our regional speech and we will all sound like robots.... or TV announcers.

[Emjay]

True enough.  But Trump has been very successful in marketing himself -- there's no way he could keep starting then running businesses into the ground without significant investors, and for whatever reason he's always been able to find them.

Trump is very effective at influencing peoples' perceptions of reality, as it applies to him and his enterprises -- whether they've been in business or in politics. 

He does deal with reality; he just doesn't depend upon it.

Yep!  He deals with the reality that 'there's a sucker born every minute.'

[geronl]

I disagree. A lot of people say that, but War being good for the economy just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Broken Window Fallacy writ large

[roamer_1]

I worked for a fortune 100 company that actually sent me to school to rid me of my regional speech characteristics so they could promote me.

That's a cryin' shame, right there.

[r9etb]

Yep!  He deals with the reality that 'there's a sucker born every minute.'

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."  ~ A. Lincoln.

"All that matters is if you can fool enough of the people for enough of the time...."  ~ D. Trump.

[jmyrlefuller]

I disagree. A lot of people say that, but War being good for the economy just doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's a complex issue, but if you are interested, you might check this out:
https://mises.org/library/world-war-ii-did-not-end-great-depression

Hey, I never said it was a GOOD idea!

[ConstitutionRose]

I hate when that happens.  We are losing our regional speech and we will all sound like robots.... or TV announcers.

Yep.  Losing all the color and character in our speech and writing.  That is why Americans are so charmed by British, Irish and Scotish speech and accents.

[Smokin Joe]

Yes, originally.  I lapse into my natural speech patterns sometimes.  Especially when I am tired and under caffinated.  I worked for a fortune 100 company that actually sent me to school to rid me of my regional speech characteristics so they could promote me.

I had to watch Johnny Carson and use it like Rosetta Stone...

[libertybele]

I had to watch Johnny Carson and use it like Rosetta Stone...

 


www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpLtmt2bMCI

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

I disagree. A lot of people say that, but War being good for the economy just doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's a complex issue, but if you are interested, you might check this out:
https://mises.org/library/world-war-ii-did-not-end-great-depression

You mean building a whole bunch of stuff and then blowing it up doesn't make use richer?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I disagree. A lot of people say that, but War being good for the economy just doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's a complex issue, but if you are interested, you might check this out:
https://mises.org/library/world-war-ii-did-not-end-great-depression

Something people don't realize about economics is how much psychology plays into it. People aren't "machines" who do what they're supposed to like cogs in a wheel.

[txradioguy]

Yes, originally.  I lapse into my natural speech patterns sometimes.  Especially when I am tired and under caffinated.  I worked for a fortune 100 company that actually sent me to school to rid me of my regional speech characteristics so they could promote me.

I still get people that laugh at me when I say I'm fixing to do something.

[GrouchoTex]

I still get people that laugh at me when I say I'm fixing to do something.

I was fixin' to say that!

[DiogenesLamp]

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."  ~ A. Lincoln.

Just the ones in the North.   

[r9etb]

Just the ones in the North.

So you're also a neocon.... (federate).  No surprise.

 

[DiogenesLamp]

So you're also a neocon.... (federate).  No surprise.

 

You'll have to be clearer in your effort to communicate with me.   I do not understand your comment. 

[r9etb]

You'll have to be clearer in your effort to communicate with me.   I do not understand your comment.

Back at TOS there was (probably still is) a vocal and silly contingent of posters who rhapsodize about the glories of the Confederate Cause, and who hate Mr. Lincoln with an abiding passion.

I called them "neoconfederates," because I enjoyed the chance to label them "neocons."

Your post about Lincoln and the North (tacit implication: those in the South couldn't be fooled by Lincoln....) -- it reminded me of them.