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« on: October 12, 2016, 03:30:37 pm »
Religious right to Trump: Grab us by the p***y

October 9, 2016 by Jacob Lupfer

To no one’s surprise, the old guard of the religious right was the first and loudest group to reaffirm its commitment to Donald Trump after he was caught on tape 11 years ago bragging about getting away with sexually assaulting a woman.

The Daily Beast‘s Betsy Woodruff has the story, complete with quotes from Ralph Reed, Robert Jeffress, and others. Woodruff’s concluding comment is pretty devastaing:

The comments Trump made are gross, as his social conservative backers concede. But, to these Evangelicals, ‘grab them by the bleep’ doesn’t sound quite as bad as ‘President Hillary Clinton.’

Men who believe that Donald Trump is God’s agent for this hour are not going to abandon him, no matter how vile his behavior. But when you think about the fact that these guys regard Donald Trump as the man to lead America back to God, an enduring feature of the old religious right becomes undeniable.

These people are not and never were religious leaders. Their movement is transparently about political power, highlighting a few sex-related issues and sacralizaing the rest of the Republican Party’s policy agenda.

more at:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jacoblupfer/2016/10/religious-right-to-trump-grab-us-by-the-py/
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Re: Religious right to Trump: Grab us by the p***y
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 03:33:58 pm »
Sexual Assault: It's Not Just For Democrats Anymore.

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 03:45:10 pm »
If I've learned anything from teaching the Old Testament to 6th graders over the past two decades, it's that God will not be mocked.

The parallels to historical events and collapsing civilizations from the Old Testament are chilling.

The "gentlemen" referenced in the above article would have fit in well with the Sanhedrin during the time of Jesus. A bit of irony, this is the day following Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement.
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If I've learned anything from teaching the Old Testament to 6th graders over the past two decades, it's that God will not be mocked.

The parallels to historical events and collapsing civilizations from the Old Testament are chilling.

The "gentlemen" referenced in the above article would have fit in well with the Sanhedrin during the time of Jesus. A bit of irony, this is the day following Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement.

Absolutely.  One thing the Bible gets right every time is people -- particularly the ways in which people misbehave.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 04:15:27 pm »
Sexual Assault: It's Not Just For Democrats Anymore.

Thank goodness that the Liberals have opened up the women's restrooms to us! 

Just a few months ago these folks were "apalled" at the audacity of the leftists for exposing women to the added possibility of sexual harassment.  Now they are defending it....


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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jacoblupfer/2016/10/religious-right-to-trump-grab-us-by-the-py/

Religious right to Trump: Grab us by the p***y

October 9, 2016 by Jacob Lupfer

To no one’s surprise, the old guard of the religious right was the first and loudest group to reaffirm its commitment to Donald Trump after he was caught on tape 11 years ago bragging about getting away with sexually assaulting a woman.

The Daily Beast‘s Betsy Woodruff has the story, complete with quotes from Ralph Reed, Robert Jeffress, and others. Woodruff’s concluding comment is pretty devastaing:

The comments Trump made are gross, as his social conservative backers concede. But, to these Evangelicals, ‘grab them by the bleep’ doesn’t sound quite as bad as ‘President Hillary Clinton.’

Men who believe that Donald Trump is God’s agent for this hour are not going to abandon him, no matter how vile his behavior. But when you think about the fact that these guys regard Donald Trump as the man to lead America back to God, an enduring feature of the old religious right becomes undeniable.

These people are not and never were religious leaders. Their movement is transparently about political power, highlighting a few sex-related issues and sacralizaing the rest of the Republican Party’s policy agenda.

Notice how religious-right has-been Ralph Reed folds opposition to the Iran nuclear agreement into his constellation of Christian concerns: “People of faith are voting on issues like who will protect unborn life, defund Planned Parenthood, defend religious liberty and oppose the Iran nuclear deal.”

Never mind that Trump clearly knows and cares nothing about criminalizing abortion, does not share conservative Christians’ revulsion at Planned Parenthood, and is laughably clueless about their religious liberty priorities. Oh, and the Iran nuclear deal? A global ecumenical Christian consensus supported it, except for white American evangelical Protestants.

A lot of people are saying the religious right is almost dead. It isn’t. It will be around. It will evolve. But prophets of its demise are right about one thing: Ralph Reed, Tony Perkins, Robert Jeffress, Jerry Falwell, Jr., et al are leaders without followers. They don’t really speak for many people at all. The only reason we hear about them is that political reporters call them for comment and they are always eager to get their names in the papers.

Christian Rightists’ only shred of relevance is their place in journalists’ Rolodexes. Reporters should just stop calling them.

The GOP’s abuse of Christians may not be sexual or violent like Trump’s predations admittedly are, but perhaps Trump’s criminal admissions do not faze Religious Right leaders because they understand the dynamic: A powerful man takes what he wants from them, thinks nothing of them, and brags about it to his friends.

conservative Christians will oppose the Iran deal because it endangers Israel.  We stand firmly with Gods chosen people.  God Himself will take care if Israel when the time comes (see Ezekiel 38) but we have been admonished that God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.
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Re: Religious right to Trump: Grab us by the p***y
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 04:32:28 pm »
conservative Christians will oppose the Iran deal because it endangers Israel.  We stand firmly with Gods chosen people.  God Himself will take care if Israel when the time comes (see Ezekiel 38) but we have been admonished that God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.

However.... early Christianity spread for reasons other the particular political positions held by Christians.  I'm sure that individual Christians back then were as aware of politics as anybody else -- but the attractions of Christianity, not to mention the benefits, are due to other things.

We can't make people into Christians.  We can only invite them.
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Re: Religious right to Trump: Grab us by the p***y
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 04:51:20 pm »
Their defense of Donald Trump's behavior shows just how corrupt these so-called "religious leaders" are.   **nononono*
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