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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2016, 04:01:12 pm »
As long as your desire for revenge is stronger than your desire for righteousness, we will get stuck with losers like Donald Trump.

The profundity of the truth of your observation literally took my breath and brought tears to my eyes. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for that wisdom.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2016, 04:01:30 pm »
Self-described Christians are not a monolithic voting block, especially given that it includes a lot of African-Americans.  So they weren't voting for him anyway.  I think this was largely targeted at the soccer mom vote -- married women.  And it will probably be effective.

But that doesn't change the point that a lot of Trump supporters -- warned specifically during the primaries that Trump was an unvetted unknown who could have damaging stuff leak during the general election -- nevertheless were confident he'd win in a landslide because of that "silent majority".  That silent majority does not exist.  The "silent majority" is silent generally because they don't care very much about politics, aren't interested, don't take the time, etc., and their underlying political tendencies -- to the extent they have any at all -- are all over the map in terms of ideology.  So they aren't a majority of anything.

With rare exceptions, those of us who actually care vote already.



I think your "Silent Majority"  theory is completely off base.   I think the vast majority of us who keep up with politics are completely aware that *MOST*  of the public does not give a rat's @$$ about ideology  or political agendas,   they just generally go with the "Popular"  candidate.   


Add into this the media jiggering to portray someone as the "Popular"  candidate,  and you have a rough model of what we are dealing with.   


Most Trump supporters who I have spoken with  are not thinking there is this great conservative majority out there,  they are of the opinion that most of the public are casual voters who vote for what "feels"  good.    What they saw in Trump is someone who will fight.   Someone who will not roll over for opposition or media (same thing)  attacks,  but who will instead "Punch Back".   


Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit)  sums up the phenomena by noting "We tried "Nice"  with Romney."   Now we are trying something else.   If that does not work,  we will try something further.  "     


Yes,  there was a lot of irrational support for the New York Liberal Democrat who recently became a Republican ,   but they wanted him because he strikes them as a no bullsh*t fighter who won't back down,  and after decades of pathetic cuckold conservatives,   people were desperate to get a fighter. 


The wishful thinking of a "Silent Majority"  never entered into it.   

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2016, 04:07:17 pm »
Hey....you're free to leave....any time, DL. 


I leave often.   I keep coming back hoping that some sanity awoke.   Alas,  I see the same small cadre of people circle jerking each other about how bad is the only candidate we are going to get to stop Leviathan Super State Hillary from going deeper into Socialist-Stasi Nirvana.   





In fact....I'm starting to think that you enjoy it here.  Why else would you still be around....this being such a negative place in your "mind" and all.


Because I am an unredeemable contrarian.  Sometimes I like to argue just for the sake of arguing.   


I also have great hopes in the human ability to reason.... when it gets used. 


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2016, 04:07:40 pm »
The biggest tragedy in all of this is folks, who pre Trump would have been "Brothers and Sisters in arms" in the world of conservative ideology, are now divided, possibly for a long time.

We were once united in not only in our disgust for the creeping liberalism infecting this nation. But in our dismay at the GOP for going along with it :shrug:

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #79 on: October 11, 2016, 04:09:23 pm »
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Christians comprise 20% of the voting block.

This latest neocon attack on Trump is designed to MAKE THEM STAY HOME.

How simple can it get?


They are playing chess while some people on our side are playing tic tac toe. 


They literally have no understanding of the political demographic makeup of this nation,  and what is necessary to get a coalition that can beat Democrats.   
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #80 on: October 11, 2016, 04:11:16 pm »
As to the gloves landed on Hillary by Trump, they remind me of a general named Pyrrhus. At the moment the blows are landed, Trump's supporters holler and hoop, "he's winning."

The rest of the country looks on and asks, "what's this got to do with getting the country back on track? How is this going to improve the economy?"

In the end, these "victories" are gained at too large a cost.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2016, 04:14:29 pm »


I think your "Silent Majority"  theory is completely off base.   I think the vast majority of us who keep up with politics are completely aware that *MOST*  of the public does not give a rat's @$$ about ideology  or political agendas,   they just generally go with the "Popular"  candidate.

Perhaps the "vast majority" does.  But there is a pretty vocal minority here that does not.  I've been debating this with them in other threads, where they keep arguing that such a majority actually does exist, and is just waiting for a true-blue, hardline conservative to awaken them.   

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Most Trump supporters who I have spoken with  are not thinking there is this great conservative majority out there,  they are of the opinion that most of the public are casual voters who vote for what "feels"  good.    What they saw in Trump is someone who will fight.   Someone who will not roll over for opposition or media (same thing)  attacks,  but who will instead "Punch Back".

But then they did  believe in some secret majority -- it just wasn't a true believer conservative majority.    They believed that there was a majority out there who will vote for someone "who fights", who will not "roll over for opposition or media) and "who will instead punch back."  But of course, that is just projecting their emotions onto other voters, and assuming that other people would share their ideas about political correctness, and the leftist bias of the media, etc..  They thought that would be a bigger constituency than it turned out to be.  I wouldn't say that all those who supported Trump in the primaries fell into that category.  Some may have used a similar calculus as you ascribed to Glenn Reynolds.  But there were also a whole lot of them convinced he represented a great "them", and that he'd win in a landslide.

it's the same error -- just with a different focus.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2016, 04:15:43 pm »
It is December of 2014.Democrats have suffered major losses in congressional races. Republicans are ascendant and eagerly looking forward to 2016, when they will have a bumper crop of young, talented and experienced candidates to offer the voters, who are decidedly weary of Obamacare, economic stagnation, international weakness and divisive politics.

A group of veteran Democrat strategists has gathered in D.C., in a small office on Massachusetts Avenue N.W., to discuss their party's future, and how the election of 2016 might yet be salvaged.  Hillary Clinton is the presumed frontrunner for the nomination, but she is known to be a poor campaigner and personally disagreeable to a significant share of the electorate. And also, to a number of Democrats in that very room.

The discussion is lively, occasionally heated, and centers around how best to offset two significant advantages that the GOP possesses going into 2016: an enthusiastic and motivated voter base, and an growing and influential network of alternative media support via talk radio, conservative internet news sources, and social media. 

The participants review each of the potential Republican standard bearers, focusing on their strengths and weaknesses: John Kasich has moderate appeal and being from the key state of Ohio might also be able to capture Pennsylvania; Scott Walker is seen as a somewhat plodding, if steady governor with a populist vibe born of having stood up to his state's public employees' unions and their Democratic legislative benefactors. He could conceivably improve the GOP's prospects in the upper Midwest. Then, there is Marco Rubio: young, attractive, energetic, Hispanic, and he hails from the wildly vital state of Florida. Big Time Trouble.

They drink coffee from recycled brown paper cups and bottled water both in copious quantities. As the late afternoon sunlight slants through the too-brightly lit office room, the Democrat operatives review and discuss the yellow opposition research folders spread out on the table, fifteen or sixteen in all. An unusual wealth of talent right there, the operatives agree. Unusual for Republicans. But there will certainly be some opportunities ripe for exploitation, to be sure...

Ted Cruz... not a team player, to say the least; he's a bomb thrower. Besides, Boehner can't stand him. Hates his guts. Smart bastard, though. And Jeb Bush... oh, man -can you imagine it? What a friggin' gift it would be to have the Bush Family name to kick around again and to remind people about the last one. Then there's Mike Huckabee, the Holy Huckster, and Chris Christie... really?? Yeah, sure, I got a bridge for ya, right here pal.... (snort!).

And then, the slightly-built bespectacled man with the starched white dress shirt and dark blue tie at the end of the table spoke up. "What about Trump?" 

"Donald Trump? That maniac? Are you serious? What about him?"   

"He's running for President. As a Republican".

"Where the hell did you hear that?"


The thin grey-haired man smiled beneath his horn-rimmed glasses.

"He told me himself".
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2016, 04:20:36 pm »
The profundity of the truth of your observation literally took my breath and brought tears to my eyes. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for that wisdom.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2016, 04:22:30 pm »
The biggest tragedy in all of this is folks, who pre Trump would have been "Brothers and Sisters in arms" in the world of conservative ideology, are now divided, possibly for a long time.


I am beginning to regard the constant efforts to torpedo the only candidate we will have as betrayal.   I feel that if Hillary wins it will be in part because of the constant carping of people who have no better solution.   It is engendering an animosity that is getting harder to resist.   

We are in a war,  and a small cadre of dissidents keeps trying to undermine our only chance at victory;  Our only chance at averting a very horrible outcome.    It will be difficult to forgive if they are ultimately successful at wrecking our only hope.   






We were once united in not only in our disgust for the creeping liberalism infecting this nation. But in our dismay at the GOP for going along with it :shrug:

I don't blame Trump supporters for Donald Trump. I blame the GOP. The same GOP who now are acting like Sgt Shultz from Hogan's Heroes



I do too,  starting with George Herbert Walker Bush who  started this trainwreck by breaking his promise.   That was a pivotal point in history.   That is a point which guaranteed a Future Clinton presidency,  and thereby created the conditions that caused this current Obama Presidency.   

Subsequently,  other members of the Republican party showed themselves to be pansies and cowards.   


McCain didn't fight.   Romney didn't fight.  Boehner didn't fight.  McConnell didn't fight.   Out of the Entire Senate,  only a few Senators were willing to put up a  fight.   (Ted Cruz being prominent among them.)   


We have men without chests.   They created the desperate desire on the part of primary voters to find someone who had one. 

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2016, 04:24:18 pm »

I leave often.   I keep coming back hoping that some sanity awoke.   Alas,  I see the same small cadre of people circle jerking each other about how bad is the only candidate we are going to get to stop Leviathan Super State Hillary from going deeper into Socialist-Stasi Nirvana.   

You're a little late at the gate there, DL.   

Sanity would have been when the GOP did NOT allow the Democrats to pick and choose Donald J. Trump as the GOP nominee.  It's all downhill from here...just as it was in 2008 when they picked McCain, and just as it was in 2012 when they picked Romney.  Sanity would have been picking an actual conservative that more closely represents the values of MOST non-leftist Americans.

The only difference this election year is....since 2014, when we naïve Republican-supporters put them in control of both houses of Congress.....the GOP has proceeded to crap ALL OVER those of us that put them in the majority control....to the point of pushing out any true or real conservatives from the party.

So....no sanity to be found this year.  And I'm about to give up hope for that "maybe in another four years" bullchit.  That is, after all, the very definition of insanity....to keep doing the same thing (voting for the GOP) and hoping for or expecting a different result.

This year is a first for me.  I'm voting 3rd Party.  And I won't be alone re: that.

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Because I am an unredeemable contrarian.  Sometimes I like to argue just for the sake of arguing.   


I can be that too.....but you will NEVER catch me arguing 'for' the rabid leftists and/or for Hillary Clinton.  I may argue on various minutia re: conservative stances, however.   And my perception is that anyone supporting Trump is either knowingly (Trumpocrats that crossed over to vote for Trump) or unknowingly (LIV voters) supporting the election of Hillary Clinton.   Which are you?

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I also have great hopes in the human ability to reason.... when it gets used.

Eh....with all due respect.....considering some of your posts here (like the one where you basically called all anti-Trump folks children or juvenile).... your ability is sadly lacking.  JS...
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2016, 04:24:59 pm »
The biggest tragedy in all of this is folks, who pre Trump would have been "Brothers and Sisters in arms" in the world of conservative ideology, are now divided, possibly for a long time.

That's true, but for the most part, I don't think it will matter.  I mean, we don't have to like each other.  We just have to end up voting for the right candidates in the end.  The only real potential I see for true, long-lasting damage is:

1)  If enough conservatives are sufficiently disillusioned by the GOP to support a 3rd party.  Because if that happens, we won't be voting for the same candidates.  And that's a problem, because the minority of the electorate that is conservative will be splitting it's already too small share of votes.

2) If some Trump supporters who generally voted GOP are sufficiently angered that they sit out future elections.  I think those kind of, uh, temper tantrums are much more common in the threat stage than are actually carried through.   For the most part, when elections roll around, people will cast votes based on whether or not they like the particular candidate, not on what happened 4 years previously.

I personally believe that for all the teeth-gnashing and tearing of hair in this election, the vast majority of conservatives will still end up following the GOP primary in 2020, and voting in that primary for the most conservative candidate they believe can win.  There will be some very vocal exceptions to that, but I think that most of us are going to end up on the same side by default after 6 months of Hillary.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2016, 04:30:42 pm »

You are irrational.   This statement demonstrates that you have not the slightest understanding of how politics actually works.    This is baby talk.    This is stamp your feet and throw a temper tantrum nonsense.   




You would gain a few votes,  but you would lose a hundred times the number.





Unreal.   






Yes,  since Trump entered the race,  people have been straining at gnats and swallowing camels.  He has certainly illuminated a tiny swath of Republican kooks,  and not to mention a few backstabbers like Romney and Ryan.   


Apparently we shall all slide down into the darkness because the Nation has become too immature to govern itself.

Your world has changed in the last 72 hours.   Since the Billy Bush tape, Trump's candidacy is unsustainable - THAT, my foolish friend, is how politics works.   Either he steps down or he's crushed like a gnat, and his message buried with him.   

You seek revenge and martyrdom,  but I seek an antidote to Hillary Clinton.   Let it be Pence.   Let Trump step down,  and urge all who favor his message to back Pence.   

Unreal?   Perhaps - but only because of the immaturity of the man you support.   The world's ending for Trump, he and his supporters just don't realize it yet.   But there's still a puncher's chance, if he'll do the right thing and step down THIS WEEK.

   
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2016, 04:33:39 pm »
Yup.  Amen.

Turned Rush off for good, canceled my 24/7 - and I even turned off Levin for the duration.

I get my political fix right here - and this is far healthier and more informative.

Am feeling much better.


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2016, 04:34:25 pm »

But then they did  believe in some secret majority -- it just wasn't a true believer conservative majority.    They believed that there was a majority out there who will vote for someone "who fights", who will not "roll over for opposition or media) and "who will instead punch back."  But of course, that is just projecting their emotions onto other voters, and assuming that other people would share their ideas about political correctness, and the leftist bias of the media, etc..  They thought that would be a bigger constituency than it turned out to be.  I wouldn't say that all those who supported Trump in the primaries fell into that category.  Some may have used a similar calculus as you ascribed to Glenn Reynolds.  But there were also a whole lot of them convinced he represented a great "them", and that he'd win in a landslide.

it's the same error -- just with a different focus.


They figured he would be able to overcome the ~10% margin which the biased media always gives to the Democrat.    If anyone knew how to "bell"  the Media Cat,  it would have to be Trump.   He knows them personally.  He has scads of experience at dealing with media.    They figured he would be the most media savy candidate out there,  and he would thereby be able to create a majority that wouldn't exist for other candidates.   

Some of the evidence indicates that this is indeed working.   I've seen various reports claiming that 25% of the black vote is going for Trump.   I know several black people who are big Trump supporters,  and this indeed is a phenomenal effect that I have seen from no other Republican candidate.   


Look,  you and I both know that about 40% of the nation is Staunch Republican and about 40% of the nation is Staunch Democrat,   and elections get decided by that middle 20% who aren't really ideological,  but are often persuadable by whatever happens to be the current fad that occurs when they start thinking about the election.   (Generally just a few weeks before it happens.)   


The media generally steers that middle 20% pretty hard,  and the hope was that Trump could overcome this,  but not only has he been having to fight the media,  he's also been having to fight the backstabbers in the party. 

This is something that the Democrats seldom have to deal with.   As a matter of fact,  the term "yellow dog Democrat"  comes from the sentiment that they will vote Democrat even if their candidate is a "dirty yellow dog."   

This is one reason among many why they win more often than we.    They simply do not allow scandals to derail their candidates.   


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2016, 04:37:07 pm »
Your world has changed in the last 72 hours.   Since the Billy Bush tape, Trump's candidacy is unsustainable - THAT's how politics works.   Either he steps down or he's crushed like a gnat, and his message buried with him.   You seek martyrdom,  but I seek an antidote to Hillary Clinton.   Let it be Pence.   Let Trump step down,  and urge all who favor his message to back Pence.   

Unreal?   Perhaps - but only because of the immaturity of the man you support.   The world's ending for Trump, he and his supporters just don't realize it yet.   But there's still a puncher's chance, if he'll do the right thing and step down THIS WEEK.

 

It's very telling, isn't it.   That the Trump supporters 'claim' that they mostly support Trump in order to defeat Hillary.  It's their main reason/excuse.   But, considering the latest revelations of Trump's past bad behavior....his unfavorable ratings have skyrocketed, making his election even less possible or probable.   Yet... even when the chance of defeating Hillary is presented by keeping Pence and dropping Trump from the ticket....they balk and squeal.  I thought the whole point with them was to keep Hillary OUT of the WH.  Maybe it wasn't....after all.  :shrug:
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2016, 04:39:15 pm »
Ironic, isn't it, that the guy here complaining that America is not "mature enough" is a cheerleader for the most childish politician to ever live.

I know many, MANY 8 year olds more mature than Donald Trump.

And DioLamp thinks that it's the grown ups who support him.   :silly:

You can't make this stuff up.....

Here's the logic.  If they (Trump supporters here) really wanted to keep Hillary out of the White House....they would be willing to drop Trump from the ticket and go with Pence.  I would vote for Pence as president in a heartbeat.  As would many others.  But for "some" reason, the Trump supporters are vehemently against that solution.  You have to ask yourself 'why' that is. (I already know)
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2016, 04:39:18 pm »
You're a little late at the gate there, DL.   

Sanity would have been when the GOP did NOT allow the Democrats to pick and choose Donald J. Trump as the GOP nominee. 


You are stuck in the past XenaLee.  I did not agree with the decision of the primary voters,  but I face up to the fact that they MADE the decision.     


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2016, 04:39:25 pm »
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As a matter of fact,  the term "yellow dog Democrat"  comes from the sentiment that they will vote Democrat even if their candidate is a "dirty yellow dog."   

This is one reason among many why they win more often than we.    They simply do not allow scandals to derail their candidates. 

So you're saying that the Dems have no morals or scruples, and we should emulate that? 

That's insane - especially with the MSM against us.   Our scandals stick because the MSM sees to that.  That may not be fair, but that's reality.  A man caught on tape reveling that his wealth and fame permits him to sexually assault women is not going to survive politically.   Trump and Trumpism is dead unless Trump shows he's a bigger man than we'd thought possible  - by stepping down.   

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2016, 04:40:44 pm »

You are stuck in the past XenaLee.  I did not agree with the decision of the primary voters,  but I face up to the fact that they MADE the decision.   

But the facts have changed.   Trump's candidacy is unsustainable.  He's got to go. 
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« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2016, 04:41:16 pm »

I am beginning to regard the constant efforts to torpedo the only candidate we will have as betrayal.   I feel that if Hillary wins it will be in part because of the constant carping of people who have no better solution.   It is engendering an animosity that is getting harder to resist.   


And were does Trump's responsibility in the torpedoing of his own campaign start? With all this mess of the Trump campaign, we arent even getting a campaign of limiting the size and scope of the Federal government out of this deal

I share your frustration with the names you listed and what the GOP has become. We all do.  The division is over whether Trump is the antidote.

My personal feelings is it isn't going to be an election that fixes these problems. Let someone start making the cuts we need and there will be howling and protests. Sadly, we may be drifting towards a dictatorship in the future. A benevolent one. But a dictatorship, nonetheless.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2016, 04:41:28 pm »
Perhaps the "vast majority" does.  But there is a pretty vocal minority here that does not.  I've been debating this with them in other threads, where they keep arguing that such a majority actually does exist, and is just waiting for a true-blue, hardline conservative to awaken them. 

I'm actually in agreement with the Major on this point.  I no longer think there is this 'silent' Conservative Christian majority in the country waiting for a Conservative to come riding in to save us.

The state of our debased culture is an indictment the 'Silent Majority's' failure and perhaps an indicator of their own compromised foundations.

Liberty cannot exist in this environment of selfish ignorance, and we are just discovering that truth, despite the warnings from the Founders of that exact thing.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2016, 04:43:23 pm »
It's very telling, isn't it.   That the Trump supporters 'claim' that they mostly support Trump in order to defeat Hillary.  It's their main reason/excuse.   But, considering the latest revelations of Trump's past bad behavior....his unfavorable ratings have skyrocketed, making his election even less possible or probable.   Yet... even when the chance of defeating Hillary is presented by keeping Pence and dropping Trump from the ticket....they balk and squeal.  I thought the whole point with them was to keep Hillary OUT of the WH.  Maybe it wasn't....after all.  :shrug:

I have said all along that they want liberalism. thay don't care which liberal gets in. To do that, they have gone far out of the bounds of any prior campaign to destroy not only conservatives running but places where conservatives gather, places that broadcast/print conservative philosophy and ideas and conservative supporters of those conservative candidates.

That is a hallmark of Democrat/liberal politics as shown by Emanuel, Axlerod, Podesta, Blumenthall, Schmitt, Wallace, Stone...and a certain determined group of posters here with an agenda that like to also hang out at FR.

Gee. What are the odds I wonder?

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #98 on: October 11, 2016, 04:43:47 pm »
Funny how Laura parrots Hopeychangey so well.


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2016, 04:44:05 pm »

That's insane - especially with the MSM against us.   Our scandals stick because the MSM sees to that.  That may not be fair, but that's reality.   

This is key.

Even if WikiLeaks revealed something horribly damaging to Clinton at this point in the race, the damage done to her would be how willing the press would be to make it news
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