Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment

[DiogenesLamp]

My point is that he has done all these things without the might and resources of the United States Government at his behest.

The IRS was under Obama's direction. The arrest of the filmmaker, ditto.

He has abused every scrap of power he has had. Just imagine what he could accomplish with all THAT power she (and Obama) had.

Yet you want to give that to him?

Let's say for the sake of argument that Donald Trump is as dictatorial and corrupt as is Hillary.   


Which one do you think the media will watch?   


Which one do you think they will ignore?   


How about an Honest answer?   

[DiogenesLamp]

@jpsb

  I'm dropping from these threads, but may still post in the military forum.  Actually did that already today.

"The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time."


I am sorry to see you go. 

[DiogenesLamp]

I guess you are one of the creeps.  Why don't you head on back to the locker room and have some vicarious sex.

Now that's creepy. 

[DiogenesLamp]

@jpsb   still here?  Why aren't you in your natural habitat ... the locker room?

Still creepy.   Boy am I glad you put me on ignore!   

[DiogenesLamp]

Why don't you stick to that as your argument?  It actually has some merit.  Trying to defending the Pig on his gross sexual behavior has no merit.

Trying to keep it going as an important issue has no merit.   Now that 10 million degree thing on the other hand... 

[DiogenesLamp]

Do you really trust a man as obviously unstable and self-centered as Donald Trump is to lead us in that kind of a situation?

His history of pronouncements on the Middle East and Russia leave me feeling a lot more reassured than Hillary's History,  such as the arming of the Islamic Rebels (which became ISIS) and her acquiescence to the abandonment of Iraq by her Boss.   

Hillary has a track record of disaster in both the Middle East *AND* her dealings with Russia.   


Trump,  from what I've heard,   is making all of what I consider to be the right moves.   He has signaled that we will leave the Russians alone regarding Syria,  he has conveyed that he is respectful of the Russian Leader,    and he has pointed out that he was against US involvement in Iraq in the first place.   

He has said that NATO needs to have it's mission clarified,  and most important of all,   he's not a corrupt and psychotic  evil old hag with a twitchy eye.

The man cannot even rein in his own sexual impulses.

Yes,  I see him up on the stage all the time,  grabbing women's crotches and such.   You got to watch them 70 year olds.  They are some horny bastards.   

Every waking thought centers around himself.

Now this part I sorta agree with.   I've been saying for a year or so that Trump's number one motivation is ego.   He wants to be President because for him it represents the most significant manner in which his ego may yet be stroked.     Yes,  he is very much into himself.

But here's a thought.   Perhaps his need for self affirmation will make him try to be the best President he can possibly be?    He's got money.   He's had plenty of women and has a d@mn fine one now.   About the only way he can get further adulation is to gain people's respect by being what he believes is the best sort of President possible. 

That is my theory of what is likely to happen,  because I don't see him having any other motivation.    In this case,  there is a very good chance that his excessive narcissism will work in our favor. 

It's not enough to say Hillary Clinton is bad. You have to have someone better to vote for, otherwise you gain nothing. And newsflash, DL: that better person may not be on the Republican line.

No,  that's quite enough.   Hillary is bad on a level of which most people cannot conceive.   She is Cotton Mather bad.   She is Vlad the Impaler bad.    She is "Woman who bathes in virgin blood"  level of bad.


She is a Lucretia Borgia level of bad.   She's a psychotic left wing "Prairie Fire"  acolyte Hanoi Jane communist witch type of bad.

She is "anybody but Hillary"  bad. 

[DiogenesLamp]

I can't help wondering if this poster has a Russian IP address. It would explain a lot.

At this point I am thinking the Russians are climbing out of the darkness while we are still going down the slope into the valley.  (of Darkness)   

What are they doing?  They are stopping abortion,  criminalizing the promotion of Homosexuality,  Killing Muslims,  defending Christians,   and doing what is in the best interests of their country.   


We are going in the other direction,  and will continue to do so if Hillary has any say about it. 


   

[DiogenesLamp]

Ann Coulter has ZERO credibility with me.  She is disgusting -- she is the problem, not the solution.

If you are making it personal about her,  then you aren't going to accurately recognize the wisdom inherent in her words.   


She is absolutely right.   The media does not really care about vulgar talk.   They simply don't.   


This is bait for the Christian right.   This is a con job. 

[DiogenesLamp]

That is just plain blasphemy and an affront to the entirety of our Republic and Liberty.


If Trump is indeed the 'only hope' to save the nation, then stick a fork in us, we are DONE - time to get right with God or find another place to call home.

I wish you would spend more time talking to God,  and less time denigrating what looks like to me our only hope to avoid American Gestapo.   

[Smokin Joe]

Why are you asserting that I like it?   What did I say that gave you that impression,  or are you projecting on me what you wish to believe? 


I hate that stuff.    The point is,   a lot of people not only love it,  but they act like that.   


The point I am making is that we should all grow up and put our big boy pants on and keep things in perspective.     

You recommended it.

My big boy pants are on. Right is right and wrong is wrong. You can split hairs saying some wrong is more wrong than other wrong, but no matter how finely you grade that, it is still wrong: i.e. Not right.

I'm not looking for perfect. But I am looking for the best representative of America in the world, someone who will champion the values I hold, and stand up for the Constitution of the United States of America.
Neither Hillary nor Trump is that person. Their split hair gradations of who is the more evil don't even matter from my perspective, they are that far off the beam.

The problem with things like Gangsta Rap and our current candidates is that when that is all the electorate is exposed to, they don't have enough contrast to make a choice. They listen to what is available, just as they vote for what is available--as far as they know. They base their likes and dislikes on what they are familiar with, not on what is.

You'd be amazed at the number of kids I know who absolutely love 70s rock and roll. Who, once exposed to a half dozen bands go scrounging YouTube for more, and they love that each band has its own signature sound, as different as a seashore from a city from a mountain--not the split hairs of different gangsta rap.

It's high time we got back to some significant differences, some contrast in politics and away from the 'my guy is better than the other candidates' guy because he only talked about grabbing pu**y and wasn't caught with ejaculate on the intern's dress.'

That sort of "improvement" is like saying there are drastic cuts in Welfare funding because it is only being increased by 10% instead of 35%.

DL, I know you are a smart person. Don't fall into that trap out of desperation to defeat Clinton.

If Trump gets elected and is the disaster most of us expect, provided there are elections in 2020, how do you propose to defeat the now-entrenched low expectations of a POTUS in an election? After four more years of Gangsta Rap, how are you going to get people to listen to a symphony?

 At least if it is their (the Democrats') mess, the Republican Party will have the option of stepping in with a more conservative option to run with in 2020. If it is a GOP mess, the Democrats will take the ball clear to the other side of the field and run for the goalposts. Bernie the Socialist dangnear got the nomination this time, someone of his ilk will still have appeal next time--even more with disillusioned millennials, and the GOP will be in no position to counter with Trump.

Think about it. Think ahead. This election is a bust. Once again, the Republican Party has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Vote down ticket to put the brakes on, as best we can, and vote your conscience at the top. I  know I will.

[Smokin Joe]

Let's say for the sake of argument that Donald Trump is as dictatorial and corrupt as is Hillary.   


Which one do you think the media will watch?   


Which one do you think they will ignore?   


How about an Honest answer?

Which media?

The MSM will gloss over Hillary and revile Trump, at least until they lose access.  Then they'll be more careful what they say. Access to the halls of power is more important to the harlots of the media. 

The internet will be a different place. Those who haven't been kicked off of websites would scrutinize Hillary if they are Conservative, but if they are truly Conservative, they will scrutinize Trump, too.
The Democrats and Liberals and Communists will praise Hillary and damn Trump on the internet. So predictable, I bet you didn't need my answer to your rhetorical question.
 
That's an honest answer.

Your turn. Considering the media (MSM, especially) have helped create this mess, (why, they wouldn't promote the worst possible GOP Primary candidate so the Democrat would win the General, would they?), do you think what they say in the long run will make much difference?
Will it get us one micron closer to restoring the Republic? Not with these tools and materials.
I was gobsmacked at the CNN feeds quoted along with such luminaries as the National Enquirer to smear Cruz, but let them say anything bad about Trump and they were back to being Liberal crap spewers. Rush was evil until he came over to the Orange side, as were the other former purveyors of punditry formerly considered oracles of Conservatism. The harlots of opinion have named their price. Access to the halls of power, the 'right' cocktail parties, and maybe a comped round or two of golf...

I guess it is all what you want to hear.

[Smokin Joe]

Now this part I sorta agree with.   I've been saying for a year or so that Trump's number one motivation is ego.   He wants to be President because for him it represents the most significant manner in which his ego may yet be stroked.     Yes,  he is very much into himself.

But here's a thought.   Perhaps his need for self affirmation will make him try to be the best President he can possibly be?    He's got money.   He's had plenty of women and has a d@mn fine one now.   About the only way he can get further adulation is to gain people's respect by being what he believes is the best sort of President possible. 

That is my theory of what is likely to happen,  because I don't see him having any other motivation.    In this case,  there is a very good chance that his excessive narcissism will work in our favor. 

That is a possibility, but only if he succeeds. He does not deal with failure well. Start stiffing defense contractors and it all falls apart.

No,  that's quite enough.   Hillary is bad on a level of which most people cannot conceive.   She is Cotton Mather bad.   She is Vlad the Impaler bad.

Vlad the impaler got the nickname from impaling the Muslim (Ottoman) hordes who were invading his country.  He was ruthless enough about that that it was a success. I'd say he knew how to handle the Islamic invasion better than any living national leader, and he is considered a national hero where he did. If anyone is considering playing pattycake with that situation, they have the wrong approach.
Hillary knows the other way to deal with them. Bribe them. Baksheesh is a time-homored method, although it amounts to tribute for being left alone. Yes, she's a foul creature and we know this because she has had the opportunity to show it. We have another in the wings who has the same symptoms of being foul, only without the history of power and opportunity and scrutiny that she has had. I submit that is the biggest difference.

  She is "Woman who bathes in virgin blood"  level of bad.


She is a Lucretia Borgia level of bad.   She's a psychotic left wing "Prairie Fire"  acolyte Hanoi Jane communist witch type of bad.

She is "anybody but Hillary"  bad.

YMMV, but I don't think that is a good basis to choose a national leader on.

I'm not voting for either one of them.

[mirraflake]

@mirraflake

I happen to know that @musiclady is a very nice, older lady, from a generation that generally upheld at least public standards of decorum and behavior better than those of us that are younger.  Whatever many men may have said to each other in conversation over the course of their lives, I think it is beneath us to essentially say "you're husband is a dirty old man just like the rest of us."  I'm not sure what other spin to put on it other than to say it's just the kind of thing we should not say to such a lady even if you believe it may be true. 

And I'd add that while there certainly are many men (and women) who have talked in fairly crude terms about the opposite se, there are also some who do not, and her husband may well be one of those gentlemen with a bit more decorum than most of the rest of us.  I think bringing someone's spouse into a conversation and imputing lewd conduct to them is just...not right.

Are we talking about the same @musiclady?

I never pointed out her husband specifically I believe I said most or not all men of wives on this forum have talked about women's bodies among themselves that is quite crude at one time or another...and I still stick with that.

For some reason she believes I think it is ok to grope woman or force kisses which I am 100% against, never did nor hang around men who did.

 I NEVER called musiclady any insulting names etc. Not once. Look at the thread from the begining..it is still up.  I did call her naive about men.


Again look at the thread and see who started swinging insults and it was not me.


Here is some samples she said about me-show me on that thread were I said any insults to her in the same vein-there is none. I don't insult people on forums.




Musiclady: You really are a creep, aren't you??

You really do think that all men are as vile as you and your boy friends are, don't you?

You are to be pitied.  But your wife is whom I am most sorry for.


Musiclady:  "Little boy"  , "little man"
Musiclady: "stay in the gutter with your boyfriends"

Shall I post her comments bashing my marriage in the worst way numerous times-which she knows nothing about?



I do admit to saying among male friends at times  "wow she has a nice a%%"   which 99% of most normal men have done and do. Just being honest..and that was my point all along.

My whole thread was about how men and women talk among themselves regarding the opposite sex and how women are on fainting couches as of late over Trumps use of the word "p$$$$y drummed up by the media fervor when in fact woman do the same language the same or  worse.

Go on the Facebook page "ladyboners"  and see how women talk about mens bodies. If i posted their comments here I would be banned.





@Maj. Bill Martin
@jpsb
@DiogenesLamp
@TomSea
@aligncare

[Smokin Joe]

Are we talking about the same @musiclady?

I never pointed out her husband specifically I believe I said most or not all men of wives on this forum have talked about women's bodies among themselves that is quite crude at one time or another...and I still stick with that.

For some reason she believes I think it is ok to grope woman or force kisses which I am 100% against, never did nor hang around men who did.

 I NEVER called musiclady any insulting names etc. Not once. Look at the thread from the begining..it is still up.  I did call her naive about men.


Again look at the thread and see who started swinging insults and it was not me.


Here is some samples she said about me-show me on that thread were I said any insults to her in the same vein-there is none. I don't insult people on forums.




Musiclady: You really are a creep, aren't you??

You really do think that all men are as vile as you and your boy friends are, don't you?

You are to be pitied.  But your wife is whom I am most sorry for.


Musiclady:  "Little boy"  , "little man"
Musiclady: "stay in the gutter with your boyfriends"

Shall I post her comments bashing my marriage in the worst way numerous times-which she knows nothing about?



I do admit to saying among male friends at times  "wow she has a nice a%%"   which 99% of most normal men have done and do. Just being honest..and that was my point all along.

My whole thread was about how men and women talk among themselves regarding the opposite sex and how women are on fainting couches as of late over Trumps use of the word "p$$$$y drummed up by the media fervor when in fact woman do the same language the same or  worse.

Go on the Facebook page "ladyboners"  and see how women talk about mens bodies. If i posted their comments here I would be banned.





@Maj. Bill Martin
@jpsb
@DiogenesLamp
@TomSea
@aligncare

Go ahead, call in the troops, but you missed something. At issue wasn't trump using the word p$$$$y, but talking about grabbing them. Dodging the seminal issue does not make for rational discussion. It is just a strawman argument.

[mirraflake]

Go ahead, call in the troops, but you missed something. At issue wasn't trump using the word p$$$$y, but talking about grabbing them. Dodging the seminal issue does not make for rational discussion. It is just a strawman argument.

Look at my post. Numerous times I said that was not the issue-the groping..my point was men and women talk about the opposite sex in very crude terms among themselves (same gender)and some here do not think it happens or it's not the norm.
@Smokin Joe

[INVAR]

I wish you would spend more time talking to God,  and less time denigrating what looks like to me our only hope to avoid American Gestapo.

You can justify idolatry all you like. 

It is still an affront to God, the Republic and Liberty that you would place this nation's entire "hope" on a man such as Trump.

Only those who want a messiah or a king think and talk in such terms.

[EC]

Now this part I sorta agree with.   I've been saying for a year or so that Trump's number one motivation is ego.   He wants to be President because for him it represents the most significant manner in which his ego may yet be stroked.     Yes,  he is very much into himself.

But here's a thought.   Perhaps his need for self affirmation will make him try to be the best President he can possibly be?    He's got money.   He's had plenty of women and has a d@mn fine one now.   About the only way he can get further adulation is to gain people's respect by being what he believes is the best sort of President possible. 

That is my theory of what is likely to happen,  because I don't see him having any other motivation.    In this case,  there is a very good chance that his excessive narcissism will work in our favor. 

My advice? Stick to this line of argument. It's a thin enough reed, God knows, but it's plausible and fits with what we do know about Trump's character.

Of course, his definition of "being a good president" might not be ours ....

[Smokin Joe]

Look at my post. Numerous times I said that was not the issue-the groping..my point was men and women talk about the opposite sex in very crude terms among themselves (same gender)and some here do not think it happens or it's not the norm.
@Smokin Joe

Your perception of what is 'the norm' will be colored by those you hang out with.

Many of us have tried repeatedly to make the point that we obviously don't run in the same circles.
 
You have a full right to freedom of association, and I'm not judging the folks you hang out with, just saying that making sweeping assumptions based on your personal experience might lead to incorrect conclusions about the folks other people hang out with.

I'm not running with a church crowd, but the folks I know voice their appreciation for the female form in a more erudite or subdued fashion. Believe me, the discussion need not be crude, nor does it necessarily contain references to proposed acts, especially with women who are married, in order to point out the obvious. When you are older, you might understand.

[roamer_1]

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Christians comprise 20% of the voting block.

Baloney. You've been smoking too much Barna.

[musiclady]

@mirraflake

@Maj. Bill Martin 

I just wanted to make sure to let you know that everything mirraflake quoted me as saying was out of context and the comments were made in response to vulgar insults or comments he had made. (Some removed by the mod they were so bad.

At least one of them after he called the gentlemen of this forum homosexals because they didn't treat women like scum.

I just want to keep my name clear. I was angry at his nastiness and perhaps over the top but wanted you to know that his tattle tale post ignored his horrid comments that preceded my responses. 

Sorry to bother you but the context is important.

[musiclady]

@Maj. Bill Martin

I can attest to everything @musiclady said above as true.   There were many witnesses.  Of course Trumpsters will deny it, but that does not change it.  Musiclady gets targeted because she is very smart and eloquent and logical.  She does not back down and gives in proportion to what she gets.  She is not a slanderer or a fight starter.  But neither is she a wimp, bowing to the demands of others.  She is known to show grace and walk away from fights.  But she will not let gross error stand, nor should she.

She has said some awfully gracious things about you, too, if I remember correctly.  So you should know better.

Thank you so very much! 

I was so appalled at the filth spewing on that thread!  Thanks for verifying what really happened there.

[Emjay]

Ann Coulter has ZERO credibility with me.  She is disgusting -- she is the problem, not the solution.

Ann Coulter was yesterdays news.  Maybe the day before yesterday's news.  She was desperate for some attention and press so she chose the Trump Train.

It has gotten her some attention but she will never live it down.

[Emjay]

A year ago, I pledged to endorse the Republican nominee, and I am honoring that commitment.

That @txradioguy is an endorsement whether you like it or not.

So.... if he shot someone on Main Street or kicked a puppy, you would still vote for him? 

[Emjay]

Quote from JPSB about Cruz 'endorsing' Trump.   Ted Cruz has never mentioned the name of the Pig.  Ted Cruz is voting for him because he thinks there is a slight chance that Trump will support Conservative positions more than Hillary will.  That's all.  I love Ted Cruz but he is wrong on this.  We cannot depend on The Pig to support anyone or anything but himself.

[Emjay]

Did he attend and do well there? Back in the day sending a rebellious male teenager to a military academy was a common practice by the well to do. There were girls schools for the female version of a rebellious teenager. Most of the time the schools did a good job of "domesticating" the teenager.  I think the NYMA did a good job at creating a successful and patriotic Donald Trump.

Oh, my goodness !  I cannot believe that you said that.  You are truly delusional.

Whatever his parents paid to have their piglet domesticated at that school, they deserve their money back.

Maybe they should do what Donald would do.  Sue.